Every now and then you have to have some fun, even in a blog, and this one I simply couldn't resist, because it's....well...fun, and because there is as one might guess, a bit of history and truth behind it:

Canada to Expose Alien Collaboration With U.S.

Now, there's a serious aspect to this, as anyone will appreciate. This is the former Defense Minister of Canada, Paul Hellyer, not just an average conspiracy-theory-Joe (or perhaps I should say, conspiracy-theory-bloke) spinning tails and stories. And the story, according to Hellier, is a grim one:

“There has been collaboration between one or more of them with the U.S. government and the U.S. defense department. They’ve been sharing technology, some of which they wouldn’t want the public to know about. Not only anti-gravity machines, but also diabolical weapons — so many things that will affect the future of humankind.”

Asked why he didn't inquire about all this when he was Canada's Minister of Defense, Hellyer responded he didn't know about it at the time. And there's a whole extraterrestrial taxonomy too:

"Alien intelligence, Hellyer says, 'is like a scroll that opens up in both directions; it has no end, it goes on and on. There are people from other dimensions, too, and a lot of them have visited Earth and they still do. Some of them look very much like us. The species we call the Tall Whites have been seen shopping in Las Vegas.'"

Shopping? They don't have malls and casinos in the Pleiades system? Personally, at this point, I begin to question the story, not so much for its goofier details, but for the fact that someone of Hellyer's stature is promoting it.

Don't get me wrong; there are serious and sober speakers at this event, Richard M. Dolan among them. And like him, I too think there is too much to the UFO phenomenon to write it all off as being merely the product of hidden human technologies. This is the frustrating thing about the ambiguity of the phenomenon: individual cases might be rationalized on the basis of putative hidden human technologies, but the totality of the phenomenon argues something else.

But why promote a meme of occulted US collaboration with ETs for hidden technologies and diabolical weapons? I suspect that one part of the answer to this question lies in the subtly-promoted idea that if such "diabolical weapons technologies" and "antigravity" are the product of super-secret treaties between the Pentagon and Aldebaran, then one won't be inclined to go off on "fruitless goosechases" trying to track down the possible terrestrial scientific papers that might account for such things. It's a tactic I've run into often, and it frustrates the daylights out of me: "Don't you think it all came from reverse engineering?" With that question - and with Hellyer's assertions - the inclination to try to "reverse engineer" a possible human hidden history of such technology inclines towards the vanishing point. Why look for a perspective on a history that isn't there?

There's more here, of course, including the implicit suggestion that ETs explain the advanced years for people recorded in the Bible and other human mythologies. They get no quarrel from me, for indeed, they might. It's that nagging, persistent suggestion within the ufology community that virtually every technological advance since WW2 has been the result of "reverse engineering," a meme popularized by Lt. Col. Philip Corso in The Day After Roswell.

However, I suspect  that the real history of black projects, ETs, and UFOs, is going to be revealed as far more complicated than the idea of reverse engineering, crash and retrieval, or even hidden treaties and technology exchanges, may suggest.

We may credit Mr. Hellyer for suggesting that there is a hidden political history... and it is this, I strongly suspect, may be the core of the cover-up. Deals with ET might, in fact, be the highly entertaining and diverting story.

See you on the flip side.

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. longhorn on May 18, 2013 at 11:00 pm

    An interesting alleged NAZI-UFO factoid!

    Nazi Mars : NASA Curiosity Finds Nazi Helmet On Mars


    Let us contemplate drawing proper conclusions of a human/extraterrestrial BREAKAWAY civilization.

    “There has been collaboration between one or more of them with the U.S. government and the U.S. defense department. They’ve been sharing technology, some of which they wouldn’t want the public to know about. Not only anti-gravity machines, but also diabolical weapons — so many things that will affect the future of humankind.”

    -Former Defense Minister of Canada, Paul Hellyer

  2. enicar666 on May 11, 2013 at 6:10 pm

    Charles Hall, a fellow Wisconsinite, discussing the Tall White’s base in Nevada, and why they are shopping in Las Vegas.


  3. Frankie Calcutta on May 9, 2013 at 11:47 am

    Interesting. Allow the bright lights of Las Vegas to entice and ensnare the aliens. From space it would be a very curious sight indeed and from an anthropological perspective a city built on vice would probably be of quaint interest to a more advanced species as well. And there is the trap! When they venture down to explore this “primitive” oddity, they quickly and helplessly get sucked into the decadent Las Vegas quicksand and soon they will be pawning space trinkets for strangely valued human money, which they would probably refer to as vice coupons, and spending their days and nights in the casinos and stripper bars occasionally nursing their post-intoxication maladies in a motel room watching American tv. It would be similar to European explorers of the past getting smitten by topless brown skinned women and hallucinogenic jungle punch, going “native,” and never leaving the new far flung environment they came to study, exploit or conquer. A kind of Stockholm Syndrome.

    Through a trap such as Las Vegas we could render aliens not only harmless but possibly even put them in our service by making them addicted to our human vices. Brilliant! And I don’t need to mention that Las Vegas is really a post-WWII creation just like the Breakaway Civilization, which also has roots in Nevada. It proves that vice and decadence are one of mankind’s greatest weapons. If we could get every Iranian to visit Las Vegas we would never have to fire a bullet to conquer them. Or, at least just get American tv in every Iranian living room. We could conquer them in a generation. And once we get American decadence into space, we can surely conquer the galaxy.

    I would also venture to say that if we are indeed a prison planet confined to within the orbit of the Moon, then monitoring humanity would be of the utmost importance to our jailers. Any quirks such as Las Vegas would have to be investigated as I am sure Las Vegas is a symptom of the genetic malignancy that our aliens captors do not want unleashed again beyond the Moon. Or, one could argue that vice is encouraged by our alien overlords so we remain distracted and therefore don’t achieve our full potential as humans and try to venture out in the galaxy and upset the alien’s galactic apple cart. Maybe the vice lords of our planet are truly just agents of the aliens? But where does this leave the Breakaway Civilization– dealing in vice on a grand scale with drug trafficking, yet with aspirations of going beyond the orbit of the Moon? On that note, why would the Breakaway Civilization allow humanity to be divided and constantly quarreling, if they are cognizant of the fact that by traveling outside of our designated quarantine zone they are instigating a war with our alien jailers which all Earthmen will inevitably have to fight? It seems they should be uniting humanity for this impending slugfest with the aliens. How prescient the otherwise doddering Ronald Reagan proved to be. Will his vision be the rallying cry when Earth turns into the Alamo?

    • Tim H on May 9, 2013 at 4:05 pm


  4. JB on May 9, 2013 at 9:13 am

    I remember listening to a well known Canadian Ufologist ( name escapes me at this time) on a fairly recent Coast to Coast broadcast. He made a very valid point over releasing official classified secrets-If you do, your going to jail, or words to that effect. This could be purely a distraction based on the old maxim of a truth hidden between two lies.

  5. bdw000 on May 9, 2013 at 7:13 am

    And don’t forget Mr. JPF: should you ever have the time, you owe us 🙂 a book devoted mostly to the history of physics (and the misinformation contained therein).

    • DaphneO on May 9, 2013 at 4:23 pm

      I second that!!! It would be so much easier to make people understand this, particularly those with a physics education. I fully understand why those people look at me strangely, especially when I discuss Nikola Tesla and DEW. To be able to say, “Here. Read this,” would be wonderful.

  6. Gail on May 9, 2013 at 4:19 am

    9/11, WMD, Batman, Sandy Hook, Boston Bombing, Benghazi Gate, Syrian Rebels provided with chemical weapons….. Aliens…? Right. Gotcha!

    • DaphneO on May 9, 2013 at 4:24 pm

      Well, we know they surely can’t be any worse. 🙂

  7. Miguel on May 8, 2013 at 6:21 pm

    I believe that a distinction needs to be made between:

    1.- A diplomatic or ritualistic entente of some sort between some key power elite groups and these beings, whatever their origins might be: interdimensional, interplanetary, inside-planetary or whatever…

    2.- A purely “scientific” relationship along the lines of what the Man-in-black who is captured by Julianne Moore and her fellow actor, in her movie “The Forgotten”: “we help them”. As some “quantum accidents” occur, discontinuity of time-space continuum, resulting in some weird “phenomena” involving time lapses… -My wife and I experienced one of those once, and I believe my father did too-

    These men-in-black would be some sort of “special global scientific police/military unit” beyond the jurisdiccion of any known government or elected structure but feeding itself from their resources. Their role would be to cover up and tackle special “natural” phenomena that may point to our daily co-existence with other entities and fragility of the time-space continuum under certain natural circumstances such drastic weather changes or once in a while star or/and planetary alignments etc…

  8. Reno on May 8, 2013 at 3:40 pm

    A Lot of the UFO stuff is camouflage paralleling general mainstream media tactics. Why all the hoopla over disclosure? To set us up for a fake “invasion”.? How will the aliens come out of the closet? On Sixty Minutes? On Hoax to Hoax late night radio? Vallee said that he didn’t think the UFO phenomenom involved biological beings travelling vast distances in engineered spacecraft. Corso’s book read to me like craftily written fiction. Probably David Icke comes the closest with his idea of interdimensional beings interfacing with Royal/Hybrid bloodlines.

    • DownunderET on May 8, 2013 at 4:17 pm

      H Reno:
      I’m with you on the disclosure issue, no the president isn’t going to come out and tell us all that they are here, and Stephen Bassett isn’t doing anybody any good by trying to go through the “front door”.

      BUT, there is without doubt a mountain of evidence that “points to” some sort of interaction of entities who are visiting us here on planet Earth. Take Richard Dolan for example, it doesn’t get any better in researching the ET issue than him, add in also Dr. Edger Mitchell.

      On royal bloodlines I go with Laurence Gardner, and his book “Genesis of the Grail Kings” is a must read for anyone interested in ancient history which includes his just monumental scathing attack on academia and religion.

      We could be here for days discussing the ET issue, but if you want to get into a slinging match, just go over to ATS and mention ET’, those guys just love to take anyone apart on ET’. Saying that I did just that some years ago and did I cop it, I had more fun in one day than I can remember.

      • Tim H on May 9, 2013 at 3:44 am

        Hey Downunder, just a thought, I’m pretty sure the RAAF opened their UFO files to Bill Chalker, giving the appearance of openness I s’pose, but then again anything that is construed as an immediate threat – if there is any paperwork it’ll go into some dark classified hole. I have some big issues with the whole disclosure thing as well but at least it shows some people are paying attention and asking questions.

        • DownunderET on May 9, 2013 at 3:12 pm

          G’Day Tim:

          Yes Australia did release documents on UFO’ a while back, but Australia wasn’t the only country to do so.

          Mexico and I believe France did release documents, BUT, I’ll bet if you had the time to read all of these documents, I think you would find that all they are, are reports of “sightings”, I mean BIG DEAL.

          On Bill Chalker, he’s the go to guy by the media on UFO’, but what he does is discuss the UFO issue from a scientific point of view. In other words he can’t be labeled a conspiracy theorist/nut case. I’ve met the bloke and he doesn’t impress me at all, he always drags out things like the Condon report, I mean really!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Tim H on May 9, 2013 at 3:58 pm

            G’day Downunder, what do you make of his alien hair samples? I’m assuming you’re familiar with the, um, unerotic encounters of Peter Khouri, is it? That’s some strange business.

      • Reno on May 9, 2013 at 11:04 am

        Hi Downunder

        Thanks for the Gardner reference. I think suggesting that ET’s are possibly interdimensional is not denying their existence. I am as confused as anybody. However I am convinced wars and calamities are stirred up by non-human entities and are not to be explained by leftist explanations of capitalism and imperialism. Tsarion suggests that these bad guys fled here when planet Tiamat(asteroid belt) was blown up and are responsible for the havoc. I can have positive experiences growing organic food, creating landscapes to attract monarchs & bees, fiddling with solar energy etc. I think obsessing about ET’s,worrying about catastrophies, has paralysed people with fear inhibiting what needs to be done positively.

      • Reno on May 9, 2013 at 11:16 am

        I mean we need to reclaim that Utopian element to our lives & society which the doom and gloom that coast to coast & others peddle(asteroids,solar flares,complete economic collapse,alien abductors etc are coming tomorrow) is counter productive and is negative programming coming from the ruling class.

  9. DownunderET on May 8, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    Well considering a breakaway civilization and a secret space program, the idea of a hidden political history is a better way to look at it. All the Bob Lazar stories pale into insignificance when there is a s**t load of money involved.

    How do you keep a secret a secret, a hell of a lot of money or a gun. In Nick Cook’ book “The Hunt for Zero Point” he interviewed a high ranking scientist in the military industrial complex and asked the guy if he felt threatened, and it was BIG YES.

    In the original 2001 “Disclosure Project”, in one of the witness testimony dvd’, there was a section on “threats”, and make no mistake there was some guys who were severely threatened not only with their life, but the life of their families.

    Together with the suppression of technologies, the elites have been busy for many years, just ask Richard Dolan, on covering up the “Lockheed” type of gismos and toys that have been engineered, what they are is any ones guess, but I suspect, as does Dr. Farrell, it-costs-a-lot.

  10. marcos toledo on May 8, 2013 at 10:34 am

    Could these aliens include the losers from your Giza Death Star Cosmic Wars along with the Unidentified Flying NAZIS. As for aliens shopping in Las Vegas it lot closer and cheaper safer than importing from back home. Anyway the best cover is mixing fables with the truth confuse the researchers drive them crazy.

    • MQ on May 8, 2013 at 10:23 pm

      You’d have to admit that Vegas, if anywhere, would appeal to the extra-galactic. “Welcome to Planet Earth. The ribs and hookers are excellent.”

      Hellyer may be along the lines of Nick Pope, touting his former MoD position, but now saying a lot of crap along with the odd kernel of truth. I call disinfo agent on this one.

  11. Robert Barricklow on May 8, 2013 at 8:16 am

    “they” infiltrate most organizations; if not, then they actually intiate the organization itself. Because …they “control/monopolize” information; and have for sometime.

    Trying to separate the wheat from the chaff is truly an “art” form.

  12. LSM on May 8, 2013 at 7:34 am

    I had a gut feeling you’d be monitoring this, Dr. Farrell- nothing seems to go past your radar- admit it: you’re wilier than a coyote 🙂

    but seriously, I personally don’t yet know what to make of this ET/disclosure movement (if it isn’t just political distraction)- then add to the recipe Wernher von Braun’s supposed death-bed testemonies, Bill Cooper, etc.-

    as I work in the realm of theater and mostly get home at night waaay past everyone’s else’s bed-time I go out on my balcony here in SW Germany (weather permitting) for a smoke- I occaisionaly witness “weird things” in the night sky (but not frightening) like some sort of a solid but silent object continuously blocking out a few star clusters at a time on its journey- I have no explanation for this-

    anyway, Dr. Farrell and readers: thanks for “listening”-

    stay well, everyone- many regards-


    • DaphneO on May 8, 2013 at 3:40 pm

      Larry, the list of books on Russia is on “That Gold Stuff Again” if still interested. Daphne

      • LSM on May 9, 2013 at 2:39 pm

        many thanks Daphne!

  13. Sagnacity on May 8, 2013 at 6:20 am

    Right, mostly diversion and a reason to spin the idea that humans are vastly separate from being able to develop this technology. In other words the gods did it and that’s the only source we could possibly use for our own development.

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