This one was shared with me by my co-author Dr. Scott D de Hart, and given that I blogged yesterday concerning the subject of human origins, this article is quite a find.

Mystery Humans Spiced up ancient sex lives

Now there's something interesting here and I hope you caught it, because it's perhaps another little step forward in confirmation of some of the ideas found in ancient texts.

"All modern humans whose ancestry originates outside of Africa owe about 2% of their genome to Neanderthals. Certain populations living in Oceania, such as Papua New Guineans and Australian Aboriginals, share about 4% of their DNA with Denisovans, members of a group named after a cave in the Altai Mountains in Siberia, Russia, where they were discovered. The cave contains remains deposited between 30,000 and 50,000 years ago.

At the meeting, however, David Reich, an evolutionary geneticist at Harvard Medical School in Boston, Massachusetts, who worked on those studies, said that the conclusions were based on low-quality genome sequences, riddled with errors and full of gaps. His team, along with collaborator Svante Pääbo at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany, has now produced much more complete versions of the Denisovan and Neanderthal genomes — matching the quality of contemporary human genomes. These high-quality Denisovan and Neanderthal sequences are both based on bones from the Denisova Cave.

The Denisovan genome indicates that the population got around: Reich said at the meeting that as well as interbreeding with the ancestors of Oceanians, they also bred with Neanderthals and the ancestors of modern humans in China and other parts of East Asia. Most surprisingly, Reich said, the genomes indicate that Denisovans interbred with yet another extinct population of archaic humans that lived in Asia more than 30,000 years ago — one that is neither human nor Neanderthal."

What intrigues here is that this finding appears to loosely corroborate the ancient Vedic texts, in particular the Mahabharata and the Ramayana, in which one finds a host of bizarre creatures, including talking monkeys, a concept implying some sort of relationship to humans. But there is a dark side to this story, and it bears mentioning lest we ever forget it.

In the years prior to, during, and immediately following the First World War, there was a a man named Lanz von Liebenfels in Vienna. Von Liebenfels had been a Cistercian monk, until his radical views led the order and him to agree to a mutual parting of ways (to put it euphemistically). Von Liebenfels went on to author and edit a work called Theozoologie, wherein von Liebenfels maintained that the pure race, the Aryans, had become corrupted by inbreeding with "sub-humans", i.e., "lower primates." The subtitle of this work, "Sodom's Monkeys", says it all. These views von Liebenfels also published in a scandalous magazine called Ostara, which, some allege, was collected and read by a young Adolf Hitler. What is certain is that von Liebenfels' views did influence Guido von List, and Dietrich Eckhart, both of whom also influenced Hitler's views. Hence, the importance of the above article from another point of view, for genetics suggests that the "Aryan" views of von Liebenfels had it exactly backward: it was not the white or oriental races that were "pure," but rather, that they were the ones showing the most evidence of such inbreeding in humanity's ancient past.

Much remains to be done on the coordination of ancient texts, for as will also be evident, the above article and its "Vedic" implications are different than the views put forward by Mesopotamian texts, which I and others speculate indicate some "interbreeding" and genetic manipulation of terrestrial hominids with an "extraterrestrial" race of "gods"... I have often referred to them as genetic "cousins." Perhaps the Mesopotamian and Vedic views cannot be reconciled with each other, and perhaps neither to modern science. But the moral lesson is there: before casting stones at someone else's gene pool, or elevating one's own as a standard by which to judge the "human" status of others, best to realize that virtually everyone comes from "mixed stock," and that such interbreeding means that genetically, the various species of genus homo were related to begin with.

See you on the flip side.

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. Frankie Calcutta on November 30, 2013 at 10:18 pm

    I do have some racial memories of those times. It was indeed a melting pot of different species of humans. To get a feel for what it was like, I would suggest spending time in the parking lot before an NFL game. One thing I remember for certain about those times– when a denisovan female showed up at your bonfire, you were going to have intercourse wether you liked it or not. They’d jump right on your back and hang on until you finally acquiesced. There was no getting them off. And they were incredible leapers. Once they got you in their mating hold… that was it. You were not going to bed alone. I remember spending hours holding one of those monkey girls on my back. And they were indeed monkey girls. There was nothing pretty about their outward appearance, but they were wonderfully affectionate and could groom like no other species of human. They’d pick you clean of any tick, lice, or bed bug– and back in those days, that was a great selling point. But carrying them on your back was a tremendous burden and some anthropologists theorize this is why so many modern homo sapien males have back pains today… and drinking problems. in order to bed a denivosan woman without revulsion, tremendous amounts of fermented drink needed to be imbibed, and this had to be done while carrying one of the randy monkey girls on your back, which could take hours.

    As the denisovan female population exploded on account of their promiscuity, many of us hairless males got in the habit of staying inside of our caves all day– painting, chanting, meditating, performing rituals, philosophizing, playing music, developing written language, consuming entheogenic plant medicine, and praying (mostly for some intervention from the gods to keep the denisovan women away). We ventured out at night and only rarely in order to get supplies. And because of this constant darkness, we started to develop pasty white skin and an aversion to sunlight as our melatonin levels started to change. Eventually our eyes even turned blue. This also altered our pineal glands as well and we became deeply spiritual. We started to channel our pineal gland secretions along with our preserved sexual energy and soon yogic alchemy was born. We discovered the human body was a machine that only needed to be turned on and once turned on required very little fuel except the vital energy of the Universe. On one memorable occasion, a cave mate of mine started chanting and when he was done the entire Rig Veda was composed.

    One day we felt the entire mountain shake and when we made the long journey out to daylight to see what happened, we discovered the Earth had been plunged into total darkness and mayhem. Soon snow began to fall in summer. With the cultivated food supply virtually destroyed, the humans began to eat each other. First the denivosans because they had hair which made them more akin to the beasts of the forest we traditionally hunted for our food. When they were gone, my race turned on the neanderthals because they were slower of foot and very meaty. And when they were gone, my race began to eat each other. but in keeping with the disposition of our species and to mitigate the guilt from our wickedness, we developed great ritual for this human sacrifice and it soon became our custom.

    The last species of archaic humans, the elusive elves, in order to escape this craven vileness of of my race, left Eurasia and traveled west where they have remained hidden from us and our depravity ever since. And for the cave dwellers like myself, we returned shamefully to our deep caves to pray for our sinful race and resume our spiritual practices to correct the imperfections of our species. When the long winter was over and the ice receded, we re-emerged to embrace the sunlight and purge those horrific human blood drinkers who survived the wrath of Indra and his floods and replace their vile culture with our own righteous one. This battle continues to this day.

    • jedi on December 1, 2013 at 8:08 am

      as a matter of observation Frankie, when these offspring start too revert back to there cannibal instincts there dna code starts flipping switches which manifests in there appearance and mannerisms, in grotesque fashions..another observation I have had is these parasites is they hate its hosts, a manifestation of the dna sequence corrupting and its inability too provide for itself in a natural manner. As time goes on, they dont even know what they were, what they are doing, Extreme consumption beasts behavior with no end to materialism, I guess the non corrupted species that are still left and do not eat from this tree of destructive knowledge reminds them of what they have forever lost, after a while all they can do is ape behavior (act) in hopes of fitting in at the dinner table. Hence there constant assault on our entertainment environment with murder, prostitution, drug abuse too tempt those that are still pure to follow them.

  2. marcos toledo on November 30, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    The story of Adam and Eve being a shame when they discovered they naked has never made sense to me. They had to be blind not to notice that before they eaten the fruit of the tree of good and evil. As to is in our family tree it seems only now that the so called scientific community is owning up to the genetic jungle it is. And this is only what they are admitting to now who knows what other embarrassing skeletons will come crashing from the closets and from under the rugs of academia.

  3. jedi on November 30, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    after eve and adam ate from the tree of enslaving others her off spring had furry features.

    They knew they were naked and were ashamed…

    • Sagnacity on November 30, 2013 at 4:30 pm

      “tree of enslaving others”, what version of Genesis is that?

      • jedi on November 30, 2013 at 4:54 pm

        the one where it talks about murderers liars and thieves…

        read a funny bit of news, that should give ewe a clue.
        after the Madoff scandall, a foreclosure happened on a hollywood gated community of exclusive people if you know what i mean…….well the bank rented it out to a….shall we say undesirable….., lol…blockbusting the blockbusters.

        • Sagnacity on December 1, 2013 at 9:50 am

          So no source for you version of Genesis.

          • jedi on December 1, 2013 at 10:14 am

            the king james bible, its the tree of knowledge of good and evil, the one that if you eat from it removes you from the book of life.

            The genetic sequence code starts to self destruct….you become beasts, lol, Mel Gibson nailed it in passion of the christ, with christ looking at the kids and there faces turning into grotesque gargoyles.

          • Sagnacity on December 2, 2013 at 4:59 pm


            So not really any souring, just made up interpretations of what evil is, ironic where the knowledge of evil is supposed to come from in one old tale.

      • jedi on November 30, 2013 at 5:19 pm

        the one where he made them coats of fur after they ate from the knowledge of the dead end of genetics for being a parasite

    • jedi on November 30, 2013 at 4:33 pm

      as far as genetics dont matter, check out the savergy over on you tube for the black friday barbaric shoppers…..something the gods were against, middle men.

  4. nobodyouwantoknow on November 30, 2013 at 3:20 pm

    Once upon a time, many Yugas ago, Brahma consummated a Buffalo, which produced the Indians ( N. American genotype ). The Indians consummated with the Buffalo and produced the Aborigines ( Australians ). The Abos consummated with the Buffalo and produced the Asians. The Asians consummated with the Buffalo and produced the Aryans. The Aryans consummated with the Buffalo and produced the Negroids ( Africans ).

    This is entirely the fault of Brahma and Buffalo.

  5. Robert Barricklow on November 30, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    There has to be a dimensional aspect to the cousins dna, that is beyond current technology. Many genes are also flipped on & off depending on numerous factors(perhaps including “frequencies” outside earth, solar syste, dimensions).

    • Robert Barricklow on November 30, 2013 at 3:29 pm

      Where the 170,500 metruc tons of gold is/ in Hawaii(the WW11 Gold ect.

      • Robert Barricklow on November 30, 2013 at 3:40 pm

        The Gold part above is approx 48:00 minutes in

      • Robert Barricklow on November 30, 2013 at 3:47 pm

        Gold Bonds comes in at 1:22:00

        • Sagnacity on November 30, 2013 at 4:45 pm


          Likely matter itself is a projection of other places/dimensions if you will. And all we can do to study matter is bash it apart in particle accelerators. Sort of akin to bashing a book apart in order to read a language you’re not familiar with–you won’t learn anything of the book only the paper and glue.

          In other words, matter, including the matter that comprises DNA, is a subset of reality; not the totality of reality. Of course goes for gold too.

          • Joseph P. Farrell on November 30, 2013 at 4:54 pm

            An interesting observation Sag and one I am quite inclined to agree with. A friend of mine once described particle physics as the prediction that, if you smash two mechanical clocks together, and then predict you’ll find pieces that look like springs and gears, and then find them, you have proof of your theory. When in fact pieces of gears are not gears. There”s some movement afoot in physics criticizing this whole approach, and I strongly suspect, as you do, that DNA and genetics is in a similar situation.

          • Robert Barricklow on December 1, 2013 at 10:09 am

            The analogy I recently read in Dr Farrell’s book of looking at the ptopulsion system inside a flying saucer analogous to looking under the hood of a car to find our where the horse is hidden.
            In all cases: a trojan horse.

          • Sagnacity on December 1, 2013 at 10:17 am

            Still to me pieces of gears can imply the existence of whole gears. While the chemical elements of glue, ink, and paper, say next to nothing about the meaning (content alone, setting aside philosophical for now) of the book that has been analyzed by tearing it to pieces and submitting the pulp to assay.

            Or more explicitly burning a book, and testing for the caloric content and ash residue says nothing about the contents of the book or even the language it was written in–while parts of gears at least say there could be full gears, even if we’re not sure what they spin or what spins them.

  6. Jon on November 30, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    A lot of the eugenics silliness is based on “armchair genetics,” basically trying to judge on the basis of external pyhsical characteristics without an actual DNA picture. I think it was part of the “deadend” science which was fostered for public consumption in the 1800s, as well as an attempt to reach for scientific understanding well beyond the instrumentation of the 1800s. Sheldrake’s new book and his various videos describe several of the prejudicial “assumptions” from that era which have become cornerstones of public consumption “science,” but which are completely unproven.

    It was also largely based on the arrogance of empire and the prounouncements of royal bloodlines as a means to control the “lower classes.” Interestingly enough, the work of Price and Pottenger has proven conclusively that many of the characteristics of the “lower class” human are not genetic but dietary in cause. In fact, Price’s seminal work demonstrated that native peoples on their traditinoal diets were far more robust, far healthier, and far more capable than Europeans on their industrial, “civilized” diets.

    Many of the so-called genetic defects in “lower classes” are now known to be caused by poverty and the lack of high quality food. Genes can’t express what they have no building materials to express.

    I think that as more honest research is done into genetics, the more certain people’s treasured notions about race and purity will be knocked into a cocked hat. Eugenics is simply arrogant prejudice with a thin veneer of pseudo-science.

    We already know from epigenetics that the role of DNA is far less important than thought – it is basically a static set of blueprints, NOT the controlling factor in the cell. The actual control mechanism is the cell membrane, interacting with its environment. (And of course, all of this is a projected hologram of a higher dimensional, energetic “blueprint” which mainstream science has yet to discover – or at least admit to – so the term “control mechanism” is still not accurate when speaking of purely physical parts.)

    • Sagnacity on November 30, 2013 at 4:52 pm

      Right, the simple unanswered question, “what turns on that gene?”

      Or from where do the energies holding matter together derive. Irony the Higgs boson very clearly implies the existence of an all everywhere Higgs field–just another name of aether. So of course does a plain bar magnet, and no need for a giant particle accelerator in that case.

  7. DownunderET on November 30, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    I wouldn’t trust modern science/academia at all. Let’s face it, they have lied and concealed just about everything one can imagine. If they do release anything, its motive is to make everyone look at what they are talking about and stop us looking “elsewhere”.

    Joseph has spoken about what main stream academia did to physics, via Heviside, so anything, repeat anything, is a whole lot of rubbish coming from so called professors of this and professors of that, all bunkum for me. Let these academics read Cremo and Thompsons book, and then come and see me about science.

  8. basta on November 30, 2013 at 11:37 am

    I find it extremely interesting that we have proof of at least four distinct humanoid species at late as +30,000 years ago. That’s theproverbial blink of an eye.

    As for the mystery guest: bigfoot, anyone?

    • LSM on December 1, 2013 at 7:57 am

      Hi basta,

      although I haven’t personaly read any sources about four humanoid spieces as late as +30k yrs. I don’t refute the concept- nothing would surprise me anymore-

      “As for the mystery guest: bigfoot, anyone?”- well, exactly- if/IF one one has listened to the research of Dr. Melba Ketchum let alone read David Paulidis’ dual volumn “Missing 411” (PLUS his newly publishedly sequal) it seems there are even more unexplainable disappearances out there than could be attributed to a ‘noisy sasquatch’- just start with the bit in the sequal book’s entry about the unexplained bizarre disappearances in Indonesia…!

      I came to the conclusion a long time ago (have had too many freaky experiences in my own life) that the world out there “ain’t” what we’ve been told it is- there are other forces out there not normaly accessible to our limited 5-sense distortion of reality but at times are able to surface once our pea brains have been expanded even for just a very short period of time-

      take care-

      Larry in Germany

      • basta on December 1, 2013 at 11:48 am

        Hi Larry,

        Well the list so far is: Neanderthal, Denisovan, Cro Magnon and Homo fiorensis, the hobbit-people who died out only very recently. As well as this new X factor species.

        I spent several summers in western Montana when younger and literally everyone–including college professors in Missoula–do not believe in sasquatch but rather professed certainty that they exist. Take it for what it’s worth; I was being provocative but I don’t rule bigfoot out, and am intrigued by Ketcham’s claims as well.

        As for other dimenson(s), absolutely. I have had more experiences than I could ever comment upon, short of a long book, and it is all very real. It is also humanity’s blind spot, and it must be recognized and understood if you are to have any grasp of what is really going on, and what is the true nature of “reality.”

        take good care as well

  9. DanaThomas on November 30, 2013 at 7:00 am

    Farrell and De Hart have already warned against the not-so-hidden agendas behind these attempts to “map the human genome”. This is yet another area of science which, behind the glossy facade of white lab coats, academic titles and well-funded institutions, is developing tools that seem to be more designed for social or even physical manipulation by eliminating or altering those pesky “bad genes”. Now we see the correction of the presumed “errors” in previous studies, as this article in “Nature”, with its overly-catchy title, reports. At least now we know who the “Denisovans” were – or do we??

    • amunaor on November 30, 2013 at 12:03 pm

      We sure do know, for underneath their prestigious façade of greatness, the banksters really wear the white lab coat of Dr. Frankenstein, from whose laboratory goes forth the succubus homunculus that comes to every indentured debt slave in the middle of the night.

      The talking, flying simian god of the Hindus Joseph refers to is known as Hanuman.

      There’s a very old Christian church located in southern France with an enigmatic inscription over its entryway, stating: “This place is terrible.” What is even more enigmatic is a horned, cloven hooved, half man – half beast sculpted creature waiting at the doorway to greet those seeking entrance.

      The name of the church is Rennes-le-Chateau

      A whole lot of pesky lab-coats dressed in pesky ‘bad jeans’ here!

      Ba…ba…ba…..bad to the bone.

      • Sagnacity on November 30, 2013 at 4:36 pm


        Got a link to a good photo of that Rennes Le Chateau monkey is it demon–including a context photo placing it in/on the church?

        Also never been to a big European cathedral have you? There are all sorts of demons sculptures in those cathedrals+churches. You know, gargoyles.

        • amunaor on November 30, 2013 at 9:01 pm

          This particular piece of sculpture is very much unlike the gothic relics strewn elsewhere throughout Europe, of which much of the iconography bear occult, alchemical processes, especially Chartres Cathedral.

          From what I understand, Chartres still contains red & blue (Royal Colors) mosaic glass that was Alchemically produced and cannot be chemically reproduced. In other words, the color within the glass is not produced by introducing a pigment – See Schwaller de Lubidz

          The statue in question is more Pan like, depicting the beast in man; or a genetic combination/hybrid, which raises the question regarding our genetic foundation, the one that struck me the first time I studied this image – What does the church know, and when did they know it?


          I can’t find a good image that places the statue in context. I know there used to be tons, but here is a general story that’s been swirling around it for several decades. Probably a double blind, surreptitiously promoted by the Jesuits:

          My sister in-law, quite some time ago now, did spend several days in the village. At that time we were chasing stories regarding the fundamental principal: the priest Beranger Sauniere 1852 – 1917.

          You can probably ferret out more images from the above story.

          • Sagnacity on December 1, 2013 at 10:04 am


            Thank you for the links, those jpegs don’t look too much different than other demonesque figures in other European churches–I guess it’s odd that it’s painted. Unlike the figures on Notre Dame de Paris. But there are painted statues in churches all over the world.

            Chartres cathedral may have some odd glass, but even Tiffany lamps can’t be made today. Don’t see what alchemically produced glass has to do with not particularly odd looking statues in the church of Rennes le Chateau. News to me that Fucanelli was running around Rennes le Chateau–perhaps Otto Rahn.

        • Enlil's a Dog on December 1, 2013 at 8:27 am

          I’ve not been to Renne Le Chateu but I lived in the UK for over eight years and travelled around extensively whilst I was there. French churches are full of Gargoyles.

          In the east of England, one can find ‘Imps’ everywhere. The Lincoln Cathedral in Lincoln (Lincolnshire) is one such place that has those ghastly looking Imps on guard.

          Even the local Football Club, LincolnFC uses the Imp as its club motto.

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