Cosmic Warfare

TIDBIT: CFR PAPER ON SPACE MATTERS

In the light of today's blog about the importance of space in national security and international financial calculation, I thought this article from The Council on Foreign Relations was worth sharing(and a big thank you to Ms. P.H. for finding this and sharing it with us):

Dangerous Space Incidents

 

15 thoughts on “TIDBIT: CFR PAPER ON SPACE MATTERS”

  1. It’s odd that India and Russia are explicitly brushed aside exactly at a time when the “new cold war with Russia” meme is so loudly trumpeted.

  2. We need the culture makers in both the USSA and China to start making real love to each other – a melding of cultures if possible so as to short-circuit all this childish bellicosity. China is already embracing Western culture. We need to escalate embracing Chinese culture and developments. Once the people are together the leaders have no choice but to be together too.

    1. Yes indeed, and the process has started, with Traditional Chinese Medicine being increasingly studied and practiced in the “West” – and then there are the 64 hexagrams! And, of course, the martial arts when done in a serious way. And I would recommend anyone with a bent for languages to study Mandarin, which contrary to popular belief is actually a relatively easy language. I believe that getting into the symbology of the ideograms in itself opens a window onto a new world of mental processes which we have largely forgotten.

  3. As if China, North Korea and Iran don’t have better things to do in space than play the game of chicken with USSA. USA get a life you are not the center of the world and have never been live with it. How about becoming true free market capitalist and begin making some real goods we can sell on the international markets and stop playing war games as our economy.

  4. Yes, this is the CFR report i was referring to when i made the comment
    “a recent report by ‘Council on Foreign Relations’ “​Space terrorism, floating debris pose threats to US”” in the blog “GERMAN SPACE CENTER UNDER CYBER ESPIONAGE ATTACK FOR MONTHS”

    There is much to comment about another blog “CHINA, THE MOON, AND GEORGE LUCAS”.
    but for now, i just want to say because i can’t access the cited article from “Want China Times” claiming that “the Chinese plan to build death star moon base”.
    I tried to look into the online version of ‘Beijing Times’ which allegedly cited an expert from the China National Space Administration’s Lunar Exploration Programme Centre, but i didn’t find the alleged report.

    What i did find was numerous ‘non-official’ websites reporting this story which all happened to be spawned by the British “dailymail” report titled “Does China want to turn the moon into a DEATH STAR? Expert claims country wants to set up missile base on satellite by 2050”.

    Because i still couldn’t access the ‘source article’ from “Want China Times” so i couldn’t finalize my annalysis of the matter.

    But what i wanted to caution about such report is there is a possibility that such claim was a ‘rumor’ or even a ‘smear’, been spread at a time when China’s Lunar rover was landing on the moon.

    Another instance of a similar ‘dodgy’ report made international headlines was allegedly China says “China must protect Iran even with WWIII”.
    Like the ‘death star report’, it was copy/pasted by numerous English as well as Chinese-based websites, even the mainstream media like Presstv took the claim at face value.
    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/213760.html

    But in reality, Major General Zhang Zhaozhong actually denied he has ever said such thing, rebuked the report as pure falsification, i actually read his blog written specially as response to the “WWIII” claim.

    I wouldn’t put too much emphasis on the ‘death star report’ either since it resembles too much of that ‘WWWIII report’. In the case of latter the so called ‘expert’ never made the alleged claim.

    1. The Jade Rabbit was a bad hoax, the purported lunar photos are a joke. Check out the bizarre artificial lighting and obvious hotspots trailing off to darkness in the distance in these pictures, and particularly the straight scrim line on the second one. The sun should light the lunar surface evenly and these photos are clearly staged:

      http://www.hindustantimes.com/Images/popup/2013/12/Jade-Rabbit-1.jpg

      http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-08bvByonyk4/UrtXKVy-dKI/AAAAAAAAfCg/FFLGoi5-yxI/s1600/BcGDyDeCMAIcZPl.jpg+large.jpg

      So the Death Star story is just over-the-top disinfo to cover this nonsense, a bit of bravado to divert attention and give the impression that China has greater capabilities than it does.

      Also, note the nuke blast decimating London on the globe behind the rover when it was displayed in a Chinese technology fair, seen here:

      http://www.hindustantimes.com/Images/popup/2013/12/Jade-Rabbit-2.jpg

      1. @”So the Death Star story is just over-the-top disinfo to cover this nonsense.”

        Here is the thing, the “source article” claiming “the Chinese want to build death star moon base” is from a Taiwan based news outlet, there is no evidence any mainland “official” news outlet were reporting this story.
        Besides, the Taiwan based “Want China times” is censored in mainland, that’s why all those “non-official” Chinese website reporting this story copy/pasted it from that British “dailymail” article, because like me, they can’t access “Want China Times” either.

        So, the “death star story” is not even from mainland China,

        @”Also, note the nuke blast decimating London on the globe behind the rover when it was displayed in a Chinese technology fair, seen here”

        It’s rather a interesting ‘little thing’, isn’t it. But it doesn’t prove the “death star story” is from mainland China.

        Though it’s worth to note ‘london was nuked’ in November just before “China entering a nuclear security pact with Ukraine”, an agreement signed between China and Ukraine when president Yanukovich visited Beijing last year.

      2. @”So the Death Star story is just over-the-top disinfo to cover this nonsense.”

        Here is the thing, the “source article” claiming “the Chinese want to build death star moon base” is from a Taiwan based news outlet, no “official” Chinese news outlet in mainland were reporting such story.

        Plus, the Taiwan based “Want China times” is censored by mainland, that’s why all those “non-official” websites reporting this story actually copy/pasted it from the British “dailymail” article rather than from the original source article by “Want China times”, because they can’t access it in China. That’s why the whole thing feels “dodgy”.

        I wouldn’t use any “non-official”, certainly “non-Chinese”(as opposed to ‘Taiwanese’) source as credible base for speculation on actual Chinese space program.

        @”Also, note the nuke blast decimating London on the globe behind the rover when it was displayed in a Chinese technology fair, seen here”

        It’s rather a interesting ‘little thing’. But it doesn’t prove that “death star story” is actually “genuine”, i haven’t find any evidence to argue for the contrary.

        It’s worth to note though, ‘London was nuked’ in November during a technology fair in Shanghai with the Chinese showcasing a prototype of the lunar rover, meanwhile the “Ukrainian Crisis” was in the making, and just before “China entering a nuclear security pact with Ukraine”, signed between China and Ukraine when president Yanukovich visited Beijing in December last year.

        If you ask me, “the nuked London” has nothing to do with the story of “Chinese death star moon base plan”, which falls under the category of “hoax” more so than China’s lunar rover landing. It does however ‘coincides’ with the “nuclear security pact” signed between China and Ukraine.

        ‘nuking London on a technology fair’, while signing “nuclear security pact” with Ukraine based on UN Security Council Resolution 984, according to which
        “France, Russia, the United Kingdom and United States would, on condition not use nuclear weapons against a non-nuclear state party to the NPT except in an attack on them; only China’s assurances not to use nuclear weapons were unconditional.”.

        Perhaps, It has something to do with Dmitry Rogozin’s claim that “Russia would use nukes if attacked by US”, has something to do with the Chinese position on nuclear issues at ‘Nuclear Security Summit’ held in Hague in late March.

        Perhaps a message had been sent, with the only lauguage a warmonger would understand.

      3. @”So the Death Star story is just over-the-top disinfo to cover this nonsense,”

        Here is the thing, the source article for “the death star moon base” story is from “Want China Times”, a Taiwan based news outlet. There are no official Chinese (as opposed to “Taiwanese”) news outlets are reporting this story. According to “Want China Times” the story is originally from “Beijing Times”, yet i can’t find any evidence that “Beijing Times” has ever reported this story.
        Plus, “Want China Times” is actually censored by mainland, that’s why all those “non-official” websites that did report this story all started with the same sentence “according to foreign media report…”, because they all just copy/pasted that British Dailymail piece, because they can’t access “Want China Times” in mainland. Which is why i call this whole story “dodgy”.
        I woundn’t put too much emphasis on this kind of ‘dodgy’ report, which is “non-official”, certainly “non-Chinese” as credible source for speculation on China’s Space Program.

        @”Also, note the nuke blast decimating London on the globe behind the rover when it was displayed in a Chinese technology fair, seen here”
        http://www.hindustantimes.com/Images/popup/2013/12/Jade-Rabbit-2.jpg

        It’s an interesting tidbit, and i already knew that. However it doesn’t prove the death star story was “genuine”.

        If you ask me, it has nothing to do with the death star story which falls under the category of “hoax” more so than China’s lunar rover landing.
        It does however coincide with the signing of “Nuclear Security Pact” between China and Ukraine during Yanukovich’s visit to Beijing in December last year. And “London was nuked” just before the signing of that agreement, obviously at the Shanghai technology fair in Novermber.

        The “Nuclear Security Pact” with Ukraine is based on UNSC Resolution 984, according to which “France, Russia, the United Kingdom and United States would, on condition not use nuclear weapons against a non-nuclear state party to the NPT except in an attack on them; only China’s assurances not to use nuclear weapons were unconditional”.
        I suspect it may have something to do with Dmitry Rogozin’s assertion that “Russia will use nuclear weapons if it comes under an attack”, and it may have something to do with China’s position on nuclear issues at “Nuclear Security Summit” held in Hague in March.
        As for the ‘tidbit’, perhaps a message had been sent, with a language only a warmonger can understand.

  5. Reads like PNAC in space, apparently by the same authors.

    Not a single word on space junk, which WILL disable your spy satellite, even if you don’t provoke it with endless military and financial gambits. Psychopathically aggressive tunnel vision much?

  6. Ah yes, the school of selling the idea that “North Korea and Iran will be able to attack US satellites, because North Korea and Iran have rockets. And China has even more advanced rockets and actually can destroy a satellite in limited circumstances.”

    Amazing, well not, that this kind of garbage is treated as serious thinking by serious people on subjects like space.

    Looks to be a war with Iran sales pitch..

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