28 thoughts on “NEWS AND VIEWS FROM THE NEFARIUM JUNE 30 2016”

  1. Question, for you, Joseph: How has communications technology, for example, affected (or not so?) what you refer to as the “national culture” of various states… Is not nationalism ultimately always the main excuse for a war economy and ultimately war, simply put… This sovereignty thing you’ve been harping on is an issue requiring some clarification. I will be in Michigan for three months starting in about a week and will contribute to our common cause by sharing with you a single masterpiece of mind work you should certainly consider absorbing as a prelude to further speculation… Peace and Love from Mamadoc (Sylvia Maria Valls)

  2. Political rule being replace by corporate sovereignty?
    TTIP/TPP/TISA and/or the EU?

    Both EU and these agreements/trade deals[actually treaties]
    replace political rule with corporate sovereignty.

    1. RB, this one’s for you: (from a comment at The Saker)

      “Don’t you love the pure unadulterated bliss Globalization, Free-Markets, unbridled Capitalism, Monopolization, Privatization, crony Capitalism, bring to us all?

      Can’t you just feel the trickling down effect? The rising tide that lifts all boats? The prosperity coming our way?

      No? Well! That’s because you’re a racist (!?) :/
      And that’s that, the ivory-towers dwellers have spoken!”

  3. Someone left the cake out in the rain…

    Well, Schadenfreude for everyone, on the house!

    Couldn’t have happened to a less-appealing bunch of cultural Marxists, unreformed Bolsheviks, limousine liberals and corporatist/finance toadies. What a vile lot!

    And look at how they take the first real “No” they’ve ever encountered. It’s Armageddon, TEOTWAWKI! Ban elections, elites must rule, you rubes can’t be trusted, send in the Mandarins! Yada yada yada… They truly are clueless, and this is just the beginning, so fasten your seatbelts, it’s going to be a bumpy year.

    1. basta! are you telling me you believe in the election process? george carlin’s got to be giggling. if i’m right and this election is as rigged as any and all the others, then what’s mr global’s new game? sure currencies are going to be crashed and societies are going to get greeced. but beyond that, what’s the point of making it sound like the yorks and rothschilds are not amused with each other?

    1. This really irks me; the disruption of the exchange of ideas/dialogues. Everybody probably gets their share; but I certainly raise a stink every time it happens to me. You have a better approach – the importance of getting the message out; albeit at a later date. And I read those posts with a little more interest, as they were singled out for some unknown reason?

      1. Thanks, RB. I figure that if we make the ultimate cost of censorship more than that of allowing free speech, they may back off. We’ll see…

  4. First, all this Brexit, Frexit, Nexit stuff reminds me of the contest for sovereignty between the States’ Rights side and the Federalist side in the early days of the US. (In that case, the imminent threat of England gave the Federalists the edge. However, the States fought back fiercely where possible. The issue remained a battleground until the Civil War.) In Europe, the age-old national traditions give an edge to the ‘States’, plus the non-belligerence of Russia. It is an uphill battle for the ‘Federalists’. And then, there is the semi-hidden NWO faction. Interesting times for Europe…

    Second, the TPTB ‘siege’ begins on the UK:

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/06/28/uk-stripped-of-top-aaa-credit-rating-after-voting-to-quit-eu/

    “International rating agencies Fitch, Moody’s and Standard and Poor’s have all downgraded Britain, following the country’s vote to leave the EU.”

    Since these ‘institutions’ are likely owned and staffed by TPTB, this downgrade is direct economic warfare. Credit ratings are used to establish interest rates for national borrowing, so this move will cost the UK more money to exist. Plausible deniability, too. Sneaky…

    Third, I would keep a wary eye on those folks/corporations that use ‘regulatory removal’ as a slogan in the Brexit, Frexit, etc., movement. Just like happened in the US, this can be a ‘cover’ for everything from bankster profiteering to working-class enslavement. Look beneath the surface to the real motives, before you do any knee-jerk rollbacks…

    By the way, I still note that Joseph continues to shy-away from naming who REALLY appoints the “unelected commissioners” at the top of the pecking-order of the regulatory bureaucratic dictatorship in the EU…

    1. nice points. yep that economic warfare was and is expected.

      it’ll prolly get worse. tell the queen, “welcome to chicago.” eh? actually, it ain’t gonna hurt her a bit. she and rahm will probably still share their saturday night bathtub together with all the other war profiteering neoziolibcons.

      so revised: tell the working class london folk, “welcome to chicago” eh?

      as to the states’ rights vs federal powers dialectic – that game didn’t end in the 1800’s. that was what the civil war was about. it’s what every civil issue in every nation is about. it’s the purpose for these civil issues. abortion, prohibition, gmo’s, ddt, glyphosate, common core,….

      it’s all about the fed’s power to ruin the states. and the states’ power to ruin their own municipalities. and on.

  5. is someone here telling us that folk with unlimited resources can’t orchestrate and execute the biggest false dialectic? could the eu have been forced into place by mr global in order to force centralized control and fiat currency down eu members’ throats (all except england and switzerland as they get to keep their own currencies)? with a longer term goal of bringing all the members under one currency and then crushing that currency and the economies of those member nations. once said inflate/deflate scenario happens, mr global profits again and again speculating on currency trading knowledge that makes his speculation more like fore-knowledge (aka insider trading) so that mr global profits going long in the beginning of the process and hugely by going short when mr global causes and executes the crash and end of that currency and those failed states.

    greece, cypress,… wash rinse repeat.

    1. Of course the false dialectic scenario is possible, but on the other hand, if we consider everything to be a “plot within a plot” then this would leave no analytical way out. Even if we are not insiders, nowadays there is so much information out there, and we can try to connect the dots, continually adjusting our evaluations (and consequently our own personal choices).
      Current financial systems and their political offshoots are by definition “insider trading”; however, they are run, at least in my view, by human beings and not onmiscent god-like supermen. So any complex systems including the EU are fallible and subject to failure however many contingency plans may exist.

    2. ZDB, I agree with your scenario. Perhaps, when the “fore-knowledge (aka insider trading)” shows up on the financial-trading computer screens (as with the 9/11 shorts), a ‘list’ of psychopaths/sociopaths can be prepared of knowing-participation in the Euro crash…

      MxFusion, if I remember from the original article, ZDB meant to say that European states England [UK] and Switzerland were kept out of the Euro because they were TPTB financial capitals. That way, when the Euro was taken down, those two European states would not be effected. The emphasis in the original article was on the Euro participation, not whether they were EU members…

      1. g,
        right and thank you. after all, what do i care who runs a nation, as long as i run its currency?

        dana,
        plot within a plot is how false dialectics are run. are we of the mind that rothschilds, rockefellers, or even newer oligarchs like musk and gates are going to lose money over a brexit?

        what type and what level of oligarch is not going to reap bigger profits as massive changes in direction and inertia hit the masses causing even more massive crises, catastrophes or as milton friedman and friends constantly crow “opportunities”?

        what i’m contending here is that anyone who profits off such changes as brexit is by definition an oligarch. anyone who does not is also by definition not an oligarch. even if they were.

        1. Ahhh; follow the money… (grin)

          (DanaThomas does have a point, in that you end up with an infinite regression if you assume ‘plots within plots’ forever. Most of us just ‘pick a point’ where we think the regression stops – one level, three levels, nine levels deep. There is no logicality to this; it just depends on our personal amount of – justified – paranoia and how ‘godlike’ we believe the perps to be…)

  6. Which ever way you slice it, it’s over. This monstrous Brussels rule making organization has pissed off every country in the EU, but the exit by the UK now has set the scene for more “exit stage rightS”, meaning plural. So who’s next ???? I put my money on Italy, they are in so much financial trouble that the EU caused, they have to bail out to keep any sense of decency and pride, powerful tools indeed.

  7. The real bottom line is Western Europe never became truly civilize. Same true for Western Asia and both decided to use belief systems to unite their societies and failed. Which left both regions vulnerable to manipulation by outsiders behind the curtains in the shadows the USA is just another puppet useful idiot in the mix. Whereas Persia, China, Russia and to some extent India consolidated into large states with multi-cultures in the true sense. We have in the West a cultured elites and a largely pseudo-cultured mid-level managers and the rest of the people on their own lucky if they can educate themselves.

  8. The last substantive statement from Joseph: “They [EU nations] want to be free from the dictates of Washington DC.”

    As Putin advisers tell Putin, Joseph & us: ‘Washington DC = Nazi International.’

    Consistent & Congruent with the Wilcock/Goode Draco-controlled hypothesis about the nature of many if not most in control in U.S. & Germany etc. The Nazis?

    “High-Octane Speculation”? Possibly: At least one more level…

    P.S. Nathan Rotten-Child’s post-Brexit OpEd in The Times may be disingenuous.

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