NOTRE DAME AND ST SULPICE FIRES
I woke up today(Monday) fully intending to blog about something else, but a friend had sent me a message on Facebook about the spire of Notre Dame de Paris collapsing because of a fire. Stunned, I did a quick search and saw a picture, and sure enough, the cathedral was on fire, the roof gone, the spire gone. What will remain, essentially, is the shell of a building, if that. In one day, a cathedral that has been the landmark in Paris for over 850 years, is gone, and I lack the words to express what I am feeling, and I suspect that pales to what the French and Parisians are feeling. In its way, Notre Dame, situated as it is - or was - on its island in the Seine, was a kind of icon of the whole idea of the Ile-de-France, the "island of France," the political and cultural heart of the nation. Just a few days ago, there was another fire in another famous Parisian church, St. Sulpice de Paris, though this did not, so far as I know, destroy that church, famous for being the home of the largest Cavaille-Coll church organ in France, and the instrument that Charles-Marie Widor presided at for over sixty years. Apparently, everything in Notre Dame is destroyed - the art, the fixtures, its own Cavaille-Coll organ... everything. It is doubly sad because this fire broke out and destroyed the landmark cathedral at the start of Holy Week in the western churches. According to some reports as I write this, they were able to rescue some of the relics, art work, and the reserved sacrament. Everything else is gone.
Notre Dame is iconic, as iconic as the churches and cathedrals of Chartres, Reims, or Cologne.
The earliest reports about the fire indicate that it was started by accident, due to renovation work that was being done, but it is unclear exactly how. The same was said of the fire just a few days ago that broke out in St. Sulpice. As I write, the Paris prosecutor has promised an investigation, which, of course, is normal under such circumstances, but it does raise questions, and if there is foul play involved, I suspect that we'll never know the whole story. But there is a story here, and it's this:
Twelve French Churches Attacked, Vandalized in One Week
The symbolism, and timing, are what most compel about the images of the burning cathedral; in a way, I cannot help think of it as an icon of what is happening to Europe, and the West in general, as the leadership of the West, and many people, not only are intent upon turning their backs upon one of the things that made western civilization what it is, but actually destroying it altogether. Like many I cannot help but entertain the suspicion that if one wanted to strike a symbolic blow not just against France, but western civilization itself, one could not choose a more appropriate structure than Notre Dame. But deliberate or accident, the symbolism remains, and as saddened as I am about it, and as saddened as no doubt many people in France and around the world are about it, one can rest assured that there are some who, in the black void of their hearts, are rejoicing.
For many years I've been saying "own the culture," and if there is a message in this event, it's perhaps as simple as "use it, or lose it," guard your traditions, or watch them be consumed. What will rise from the ashes of Notre Dame? Will it be another cathedral, done in reverence to that tradition that built it in the first place? Or will it be some modernist monstrosity of a monument with a bronze plaque commemorating a "world historical site" and the vapid and empty cliches that always accompany such things.
Time will tell of course, but if there is anything to take away from this, I suspect it is this: we have been warned.
Tomorrow (Tuesday), there will be no blog. It would seem inappropriate as the churches of France are being vandalized in the most barbarous fashion, by people who, as I say, have empty, black hearts.
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the irony for me on this one was that i first saw a banner headline on a news youtube and search on startpage (they use google) for notre dame fire. all i got were hits about the indiana fire and police departments and how they work with the university. i tried a few searches with different terms. for some reason, google prevented me finding anything directly about the fire. by the time i found anything, the spire had fallen. it’s not like i was too far ahead of the curve. that’s the most blatant effort google has exerted on my searches so far. i finally went to wikipedia and they had the full story at the bottom of their history of the cathedral. amazing.
I am of the opinion, that mankind is starting to “awaken”, and that Earth is undergoing profound changes.
My perspective of the Notre Dame fire, is radically different from the perspective of everyone else on this Web site. I am not “saddened” by the Notre Dame fire; instead, I view the Notre Dame fire as “cleansing”.
— I am a big believer in Creator (most call “God”), and I am a big believer in the messages of Jesus.
— I have become a big NON-BELIEVER in “Organized Religions”. I am a believer that Jesus GAVE NO AUTHORITY for “Organized Religion”, and that Jesus insisted that communication with Creator be performed thru PRIVATE PRAYER, not worship at an altar.
— I believe the “magnificent architecture” of cathedrals, to be a DISTRACTION from Creator.
— I view the Notre Dame cathedral, to be a cornerstone of Roman Catholicism. Just as Jesus identified Pharisees as “blockades” to Creator, so do I see ALL ORGANIZED RELIGIONS as “blockades” to Creator. In other words, a man CANNOT contact Creator via “magnificent architecture”. A man can ONLY contact Creator, thru prayer.
— All Organized Religions, were designed and created by Anunnaki, not man. “Magnificent architecture” is part of Anunnaki DECEPTION. All Organized Religions require money, coordination, and most telling, Organized Religions require huge bureaucracies, necessarily implying a connection to the Tablets of Destiny.
A number of comments, have called the fire at Notre Dame, an “attack on Western culture”.
— In my opinion, there are perspectives of Western culture, that NEED TO CHANGE.
— In my 66 years, I have ENJOYED Western culture, but the quality of Western culture has plummeted, and continues to plummet.
— For mankind to stop this downward spiral, SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE.
— In my opinion, man’s “Awakening” will be accelerated, when man learns the proper way of communicating with Creator. The “magnificent architecture” is part of the Anunnaki BLOCKADE, to PREVENT man from properly communicating with Creator.
NOTE: Two years ago, four Russian Orthodox churches caught fire, right around the Orthodox Easter (not to mention the Occult holidays), which was May Day. Two churches were in Australia, one in NYC, and one in Russia.
I have noticed that a lot of things happening since Trump took office have happened in conjunction with the Moon signs and phases. On Monday April 15 the Moon entered the sign of Virgo. Notre Dame is “Our Lady”, consecrated to the Virgin Mary. Lots of bad things have happened on this date over the years. And this right before Our Easter. Also Passover is about to start, and then Orthodox Easter. Also, the planet Saturn goes retrograde April 29, then May Day, which is also Beltane. Wondering if things will start to pop in D.C. when Saturn goes retro.
Historically it’s drastic .
Unfortunately before the fire they were struggling to raise money for the renovations its amazing how so much money has subsequently come forward After the accident.
a lot of ‘s++t’ seems to happen on April 15th: Lincoln assassination, Titanic sinking, etc.; it’s a long list-
Larry in Germany
I’m just thinking, hmmm, didn’t the National Museum of Brazil just burn down last September? Then I think, hmmm, pipe organ, frequency… Then I think, hmmm, CERN. That’s it. I’m out of thoughts.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/04/notre-dame-cathedral-will-never-be-the-same-but-it-can-be-rebuilt/?comments=1&post=37203663#comment-37203663
Last edited by JaanSepp on Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:59 pm
“It now looks like reports that two Rose windows were destroyed were false. The 3 largest windows apparently are intact. And the organ survived.”
https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/04/notre-dame-cathedral-will-never-be-the-same-but-it-can-be-rebuilt/?comments=1&post=37204235#comment-37204235
Last edited by quintilianquintus on Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:19 am
“[The pipe organ] has ‘made it’, my reading of this morning’s French newspapers tells me. The structure and pipes seem to be intact, but the wood has taken considerable water damage. Be sure: in a few years, or a decade, you’ll be able to go to a concert on the magnificent Cavaillé-Coll again.
Edit, ~2 hours after having written the above: Paris city authorities are positive – the organ is safe.”
arstechnica dot com/science/2019/04/notre-dame-cathedral-will-never-be-the-same-but-it-can-be-rebuilt/?comments=1&post=37206197#comment-37206197
Apr 16, 2019 9:01 AM
“Looks like the three Rose windows and the Great Organ escaped destruction. My compliments to the Paris Fire Brigade.”
I am the cathedral builder, depicted in stone, as green man, growing structures out of mouth.
Topological metaphor is an invisible cathedral brought into being, erected by music of spheres.
Americans did Dresden in a couple hours. Orcs were once elves, Tolkien says.
https://www.lpthe.jussieu.fr/~roehner/oci.pdf
postscript:
ha, E M Jones on architecture – yesterday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9mjdkuROPE
synchronous universe we live in.
Why is nobody concerned about the Hunchback? Or blaming him?
thru 82.221.129.208
‘aint so bad’
https://mobile.twitter.com/BreakingNLive/status/1117922854715236352
any dancing Israeli’s pissed off with E Michael Jone’s catholicism?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqu-4AY-501xV5iCtt7dMKQ/videos
where is Churchill’s handler Professor Lindemann when you need advice on how to destroy Europe?
one thing about watching old nazi movies is all those old buildings…
https://www.limetorrents.info/Nazi-Film-Catalogue–Every-Film-Made-in-National-Socialist-Germany-torrent-10466197.html
I read the guardians, that is, the gargoyles were removed not long before the outbreak of the fire. They were rather subdued when I interviewed them over 35 years ago but I figured they would keep their vigil and rise to the occasion when necessary. Then someone relieves them of their post and look what happens.
why hasn’t the Vatican yet commented on this?- or yet has donated money to alleviate the reconstruction?- brings one to thoughts…
Larry in Germany
Boy. If there was ever a post I wanted to hit LIKE…
I find the Vatican’s silence on this to be deafening- there has to be much more behind this than meets the eye-
Larry
ditto – like.
https://twitter.com/tipsypianobar/status/1117938596952993793?s=21&fbclid=IwAR1Le_vd95QgN3ZqNy2Qts4E6S3jzePUhpJ0aHb4nwVBbOu930KUS3N2rik
I immediately thought of Macron’s saying “There IS no French culture!” Will this man be forced to FINALLY start living in the Real World??!! These Global Elites who live in a Nether World during their education years are ruining our world!! The Rocket Man received his education in Switzerland!!
We DO know there is a “culture” whose aim it is to kill Western Civilization….maybe this sad happening will serve to “wake up” the masses to what is REALLY going on in our various countries….and, PUT A STOP TO IT!!!!
A symbol of the pinnacle of all that is glorious in western civilisation and feels similar to 9/11. Yet the world is more informed, more cynical and less passive years later. This does indeed, feel like a spiritual attack on western man. Will it have the desired effect? If it’s murderous rage then, sure it’ll have done its job. Something tells me the subhumans behind this will have this light right back in their face – if you play with fire you will get burned. This also makes the brexit timetable of Halloween all the more suspicious, will this be England’s 9/11? And if there is a pattern here, where is the next one? Italy? Spain?
Thus far, French government and media have been stating that the blaze was accidental. This puts the event in a different category from “medium-altering” events where the alleged culprits have been indicated within hours or even minutes. However, this does not mean, Katie, that your considerations are unfounded….
Thanks Dana. I hope it was accidental. It’s still very poignant considering the current demise of western civilisation.
Well articulated KatieB!
Thanks Enrico 🙂
My earlier belief that the roof didn’t collapse into the church itself is questionable…
I have seen a couple of versions: architects who say the stone vaults saved the cathedral’s interior, and architects who say the building is gutted.
From the photos of the roof on fire and collapsed, it is not clear if :
the roof landed on the vaults;
the roof landed on some vaults and crashed through others, gutting the interior; or the roof crashed through to the floor.
It might be days before we find out.
The architecture, in fact, did save the contents (as did Paris firefighters and patrons of humanity, really) The stone structure acted as a firewall and swift action of the firefighters did save enough. That doesn’t mean there won’t be years of rebuilding but as it occurs, maybe it will be years of rebuilding our combined cultures.
You don’t have to be Catholic to believe in Notre Dame as an icon to our moral past. We need to make it our future, as well.
Moral future.
Disaster capitalism among other things?
Astute Bluenose! Hear Hear!
Breaking the fifth seal was a journey, that started out in Notre Dame, the acoustic frame around the motet song. Breaking all seven seals took 20 years of spiritual warfare.
Singer-songwriter David Koresh rejected the false tune of masonic USA. He returned to his musical roots in Europe. For that he got punished by Swampington, breaking his guitar.
Apparently, musicians get arkancided by wicked witches – the whore of Babylon – when playing patriarchal music in Europe, and going to Sunday school in Waco, making babies.
The French Culture Minister tweeted that most of the artworks and other valuables were removed from the Cathedral and taken to secure storage by Ministry staff, helped by the Paris Firemen and other first responders.
Today has been a lesson in architecture. One report this morning informed us that each of the main columns in the cathedral is surrounded by smaller columns. In these smaller columns, the stones had been cut the ‘wrong way’ – this was so that they would vibrate when the organ was being played, turning the building into an instrument. Hopefully they can restore the organ. You can bet they will do their level best.
Another report this evening informs us that those horrifying images of the roof on fire and collapsed do NOT mean the inside of the cathedral is gutted. Under the roof, under the timber frame that supports the roof, are the 14 -metre- wide stone arches that form the ceiling. Between these arches and the flying buttresses, we are told, the main structure will remain intact. Since arches are designed to become even more stable when weight is applied on top of them, the falling roof hopefully didn’t cause too much damage. Without the flying buttresses, the whole building would have fallen into the Seine. Engineers will have to assess the structural integrity of the scorched stone, but even damaged bits can be replaced.
Photos of firemen entering the cathedral as the fire was being brought under control don’t show much fire inside. I think this is because the stone arches, which covered the ceiling, protected most of the inside. Then again I might be completely wrong (which happens regularly).
As my French Aunt used to say in emergencies, “Courage!!”
The French are particularly devoted to this cathedral. As President Macron said, this building is the heart of France, the scene of its most important events, the place where they always go in times of trouble and in times of triumph. Macron has vowed that it will be rebuilt and a very wealthy French businessman has already pledged 100 million Euros. Any calls to change the original style of this building will be met by howls of protest.
Interestingly, the only children’s song that I remember from my early childhood in France was about firemen. It reflects today’s events: in the little song, the firemen are called, but the house burns down before they arrive.
It seemed also the Al Asqa mosque in
jerusalem was on fire. Then the following video from 2012 might also be interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L7y_o2LpKA
Shocking and truly awful. And totally avoidable.
Here is a quick list off the top of my head of irreplaceable European monuments that have burned in recent memory:
*La Scala, Milan
*La Fenice, Venice
*Windsor Castle
*Hotel Lambert, Paris (ex-Rothschild residence which has a vaulted ceiling painted by the same team that created the Hall of Mirrors at Versailles)
*Chateau de Luneville, Lorraine (seat of Polish kings in exile)
The common thread linking this terrible loss of cultural heritage? All these buildings were under restoration/renovation when the fires occurred. All of them had extensive, old, tinder-dry woodwork and roofing which should give anyone undertaking a restoration serious pause.
All these fires were avoidable (and in the case of La Fenice, arson by an unpaid contractor). Each time, massive funds were raised for an approximate reconstruction afterwards, when some simple preventive measures would have saved them all. Obvious measures like paying for competent 24-hour watchmen/fire fighters stationed on-site during (and for months after) the renovations, placing fire-extinguishing equipment in sensitive and hard-to-reach areas while work is underway, and having an adequate fire-fighting plan and the necessary equipment in place as an integral part of the renovation program. These measures are burdensome and relatively expensive and so are not undertaken, and penny-wise and pound-foolish, these great treasures burn.
All reports indicate that none of this was done at Notre Dame, nor was it done at any of the other projects. There was a massive scaffold surrounding the transept of Notre Dame where the fire broke out in the roof timbers, where welding work was going on. It could easily have been designed to support the necessary fire-fighting equipment for such work in such a sensitive area, but clearly was not.
Personally, I’ve been railing for years about this manifest incompetence as one after another, Europeans renovate their monuments on the cheap only to see them go up in flames. This is negligence, pure and simple. I was shocked and horrified, but hardly surprised.
good to see ya back basta. plain sense.
The Italian globalist press has not resisted the temptation to make remarks like “This church belongs to all faiths”…
Good morning from France. Latest news seems to indicate an accident following rennovation works on the rooftops that’s been going on for about 3 weeks prior.
The Pinault Family (Louis Vuitton brand) has donated 100 million euros to rebuilding the Notre Dame.
Macron was supposed to be giving a nation-wide speech concerning the yellow vest movement and their reclamations last night. (that didnt happen)..
Im concerned that so many ‘Christian’ churches are being attacked and defiled in April.. which as most here will probably know has Good Friday, Easter Eve, St Mark’s Eve, Grand Climax and most importantly Walpurgisnacht and Beltane Eve. (Beltane being 1st May and usually accompanied by large bonfires hail Bel.) If these attacks ARE related to occultist activity (and my spidersense is a tingling) then I dont understand why they did it so soon.. Unless something even bigger is being prepared..
4/15/19 Letter to Pope Francis concerning Notre Dame Fire and part of the visions of Pope Leo, 1884.
[SNIP] You must take action to separate yourselves from the evils of the Office of the Pontiff, Cede and Company, DTTC, the securitization and bonding of babies and other outrageous evils such as Marriage licenses that reduce the sacred covenant to a commercial Joint Venture.
PB16 asked Anna Maria to be his Private Attorney and help clean up the worldwide mess over 10 years ago. PFrancis also asked her to serve as his PA without reimbursement. http://www.paulstramer.net/
The senseless fire and vandalism of the Magnificent Cathedral on April 15, 2019 casts a heavy shroud on my heart recalling the sublime experience. I extend my sincere sympathy to all.
THE DATE THIS EVIL OCCURRED IS SIGNIFICANT.
Some of you may know the “Income Tax” was started by the Roman Cult; or Roman Catholic Church as it came to be known. The Income Tax was called “Peter’s Pence” to reimburse the Vatican for the Church’s Crusades. Today, Rome’s Private Collection/Enforcement Agency is known as “The I.R.S.” and “The Internal Revenue Service”. NOTE: TWO SEPARATE FOR-PROFIT PRIVATE CHARTERED CORPORATIONS. Not one dime remains here from the people’s voluntary donations and yes, there is a lawful remedy to end Rome and the British Monarch’s evil when they robbed our name, hijacked our country, chartered a for-profit private Commercial Corporation in Scotland 1868, and never told us.
https://www.dcclothesline.com/2019/04/16/notre-dame-cathedral-inferno-intentionally-set/
A fire was also reported to have broken out today, at the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem.
Barack Obama just happened to be in Paris, and offered his public condolences along with statements regarding a need for the religious community to ‘come together’.
He was in New Zealand before or shortly after the FF. He just left Germany. hmmm. Its unfortunate that he can’t just set down and shut up. db
“sit down” geez db
Being French and it happens to be my birthday today, I took this to heart. I cried and I am not taken to tears.
The firefighters confirmed that Notre-Dame’s two towers have been saved.
The Lady in Red burns but Jachin and Boaz must of course be saved.
When will they stop sacrificing virgins?
An undeniable cultural strategy, and perhaps an ill adumbration.
Macron seems to suddenly care about French culture, the very culture he denied existed not long ago: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-15/stunning-images-show-frances-historic-notre-dame-cathedral-engulfed-flames.
Lotta ways to take that. Let’s let it stew.
Between Ratchilds & Soros, they must be proud of this.
I also was saddened to first hear and then a little see pictures and some film of the Cathedral on fire. I had the same reaction as Dr. Farrell, it was both timed and symbolic. It appears Mr. Macron is indicating it will be rebuilt with him as part of the rebuilding process I dread to see what it will look like.
A definitive sign of the times.
I was in a dental chair when my dentist; working on my teeth, w/me unable to speak, informed me and held his smart phone showing the fire in progress.
When I got to speak I stated that the renovation fire was unlikely; and that the real cause/people behind it may never be known.
When I got home with wife & son, I popped a dvd in to watch. It started w/a Latin proverb:
To err is human, but to persist in error is diabolical.
Couldn’t have summed it up better.
Again, I post as I read…
No doubt the replacement will be “dark”.
All the icons are being darkened. Even “our” superheroes are undergoing costume changes that evoke a darker side.
“Warned”?
I knew from an early age, when commanded to pledge for a flag I knew nothing about; in 5th grade? All I remember is a sinking feeling. My only relieve came, when I surmised/surely they know, otherwise this wouldn’t be so.
But they never spoke up to power. They led, either knowingly; or, ignorantly us young minds.
Today, they are fired are imprisoned for teaching the young mind to question authority & think critically.
Their information sources are compromised beyond recognition.
“Warned”.
Unfortunately, these events are testament to a fait accompli breach. “We” are know in the tell-tale sign timeline of consequence.
Even know I read Yahoo’s headline: Main structure saved & preserved. Yep, the structure of truth is indeed being changed & preserved.
Tomorrow came a long time ago;
and is now coming to light.
Or, precisely…
darkness.
As soon as I heard about it, I immediately thought this was a deliberate attack on our Western culture. It’s so obvious when there have been so many Churches set alight all over France. Wasn’t Trump saying something about “Paris burning” ?…. Ghastly black hearted people!
The cathedral has stood the test of time, I’m fairly confident it will be restored to it’s former beauty.
This icon of world history can never be rebuilt or restored to it’s magnificent beauty.
curious where they’re getting the timber needed. if memory serves, a few ancient buildings with that kinda import in germany and england had forests nearby, planted and maintained and cultured to ensure old growth timber to replace the posts and beams as needed in coming centuries. those old guys were thinking centuries in advance. betting that the quality and size and specie of timber needed will be hard to come by today.
of course the wonderful world of disney will work some miracle plastic/wood and fix it all nice – just as nice as the inside of sistine.
wait, didn’t disney just pledge $4mil for nd?
This smells of arson this was no accident but again this depends on whose ox has been gored. Looks like Christianity has outlived its usefulness to our elites but if Islam thinks it will profit from this dream on its head is on the chopping block as well kill two birds with one stone.
marcos, it gets harder daily to not think all of humanity has outlived the usefulness to the richie riches.
I think it was Laurence Gardner who wrote in one of his books, that he thought that the Arch of the Covenant was buried underneath the Cathedral. Notwithstanding, it’s loss is tragic and after 850 years it’s gone, there are no words.
Paul Joseph Watson showed the names of people posting laughing emojis on Facebook or Twitter posts of the fire, mostly Middle eastern names. As I watched Fox News, Shepherd Smith and Neil Cavuto both cut off people who were trying to talk about the attacks on churches in recent days, apparently there has been something every week. Millions of dollars were being spent on renovations. Now this happens right before Easter? One person remarked it was like France’s 9/11.
Your 9/11 analogy is spot on.
Inside job?
“Black Magick” ceremony?
This is the most incredible heart breaker! I am so sad!
I thought about you this morning, Joseph, and the organ which is lost.
I feel the same way as you do. I intuitively felt it was an attack on our beautiful Western culture. I am so happy that I had the privilege to tour Notre-Dame cathedral with family and we have the most special memories of that time. As you say…”own the culture or lose it”. A tragedy of immense proportions!
This is a very sad moment. My condolences to all…
(I truly hope that this was not a False Flag to blackwash the Yellow Vest movement in France. In the past, other nations have used false flags such as this to crack down on civil liberties and protest movements…)
Don’t let a crisis go to waste.
Sooo today’s…
empire modus operandi.
agreed. an not so optimistic to think that all the least likely and most vulnerable parties will be blamed. white nationalists, muslims, yellow vests, antivaxxers, organic food eaters, anti-eu-ers – who’s left? oh yeh. the left, the right and anyone without more wealth than their great great grandchildren could ever need or want.
almost forgot – the roosians.
Did I call it?
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-16/internet-erupts-speculation-about-who-started-notre-dame-cathedral-fire
“Update 2: Ever careful to watch for false-flags and conspiracy theory concerns, video is emerging of a Gilets-Jaunes in black clothes at one of the two towers half an hour after the start of the fire at Notre-Dame…
One definite way to disenfranchise the Yellow Vests – as they crush French autocracy – would be to set them up as the fall-guys for this national disaster. Surely that is not possible!”