USAF GENERAL: HIDDEN SPACE TECH?

USAF GENERAL: HIDDEN SPACE TECH?

There's been a lot of space news recently, from studies increasingly questioning whether or not so-called dark matter actually exists, to a quiet debate on whether or not the U.S.A. should disclose at least some of its hidden technology. That debate may have been more or less recently settled as a retired United States Air Force Lieutenant General, Steven Kwast, has recently given a speech, and authored an opinion piece, which has had some circles of the internet buzzing with speculation. And since speculation is what we do here, and since these two articles were sent to me by all sorts of people, this story became one of this week's "must blog" topics. The article was written earlier this year in March, and more recently, General Kwast spoke to Hillsdale College.

Here's the two stories, and thanks to all who sent these along:

Space diplomacy: A better way to combat China's challenge

Recently Retired USAF General Makes Eyebrow Raising Claims About Advanced Space Technology

What has many on the internet buzzing are two comments being made in these two articles. From the first article:

To avoid this, the United States needs a more robust national focus on space and a strategy that enables the diplomatic use of space as a whole-of-society approach. What if, in addition to GPS, the United States and its allies provided 5G global broadband access with assured freedom of access anywhere in the world for pennies? What if the United States brought life-giving payloads and personnel to bear to within a half-meter anywhere in the world within about 30 minutes of launch? What if the United States underwrote the security of allied spacecraft and managed collection of global space debris? All of this is within easy technological reach today. Enabling technologies such as fully-reusable launch vehicles will increasingly expand this capability as costs begin, in time, to approach those of aviation. (Emphasis added)

What raises the eyebrows here is the claim to be able to deliver "life-giving payloads and personnel" to "within a half-meter anywhere in the world within about 30 minutes of launch". Of course, that capability has existed, in one form, since the late 1950s and 1960s, and it's called the Inter-Continental Ballistic Missile. And certain Kwast has framed his remarks in such a fashion as to suggest that something similar is in mind when he refers to "fully-reusable launch vehicles." In other words, we're to think in terms of sophisticated rockets, perhaps with a launch-and-land capability.

But then there's this remark from his address to Hillsdale College:

Kwast ultimately makes the case that the United States must be able to bring kinetic power, non-kinetic power, and informational power to the battlefield cheaper and faster than its adversaries in order to ensure strategic advantage in space.

Around the 12:00 mark in the speech, Kwast makes the somewhat bizarre claim that the U.S. currently possesses revolutionary technologies that could render current aerospace capabilities obsolete:

"The technology is on the engineering benches today. But most Americans and most members of Congress have not had time to really look deeply at what is going on here. But I’ve had the benefit of 33 years of studying and becoming friends with these scientists. This technology can be built today with technology that is not developmental to deliver any human being from any place on planet Earth to any other place in less than an hour."(Emphasis added)

One must assume that General Kwast would not be talking about such things publicly without having cleared it first with higher-ups. Indeed, given the recent discussion on whether or not the USA should publicly reveal some of the technologies it has secretly developed, it could be argued that Kwast's remarks are an indicator that the decision has been taken to do so. His comments about space diplomacy could therefore be interpreted that the revelation of these capabilities is a component of a wider diplomatic policy beginning to emerge.

What interests me, however, are the technological implications of his remarks. In the above remarks, for example, General Kwast appears to confirm the existence of kinetic weapons with his reference to "kinetic power." Many have long suspected that the USA may have weaponized space already with so-called "rod of God" kinetic weapons, able to generate enormous explosive energies simply through the sheer velocity of high masses impacting the surface of the Earth. Some, for example, speculated that the explosion at the Chinese chemical plant at Tianjin may have been a demonstration of such a weapon, and I was one of those considering it. More recently, during one of the North Korea kerfuffles, an American general stated that "all options" were on the table. A reported was overheard to ask if that included "kinetic weapons," and the general's simple response was, "Yes." President Trump himself may have got in on the act with his own comments about highly destructive weapons that were not nuclear in nature.

What intrigues me even more, however, are the implications of his remarks at the end of the above quotation: "This technology can be built today with technology that is not developmental to deliver any human being from any place on planet Earth to any other place in less than an hour." What intrigues me here, though I readily admit that it is more than possible I am parsing his words too closely, is that the mention of reusable launch vehicles is entirely missing from the context, as is the mention of "life-giving payloads." Nor is it entirely clear from his remarks that the delivery to "any other place in less than an hour" means necessarily a delivery to a place on the planet Earth. Indeed, he seems to go somewhat out of his way to mention "planet Earth" as the point of sortie, but does not repeat the phrase in the target phase of his remarks: "to any other place" is what he says, not "to any other place on planet Earth."

Generals don't mangle words; orders have to be carefully written so as to be entirely clear to the subordinates receiving them. Many months ago I blogged about the case of another American general who gave a speech to young officers about the future need for soldiers to be ready to combat "little green men." Those words, in the context of all the talk then occurring about space and the need for an American space force and space command, carried a certain weight and implication, notwithstanding the attempt of some to spin them as well-known  US Army code and slang for Russians dressed in their green camo fatigues. If the general was referring to that, then he was making his words do double duty, for he would also fully know how his words would have been understood in the wider culture.  I suspect we're dealing with a similar phenomenon here: General Kwast has carefully constructed his words, to allow for a full range of interpretative possibilities, both terrestrial and off-planet. Much more importantly, the omission of any reference to "reusable launch vehicles" from his second set of remarks may indicate that other even more exotic technologies are also in play...

See you on the flip side...

49 thoughts on “USAF GENERAL: HIDDEN SPACE TECH?”

  1. G, B, LLD, OC and all. Thank you. All good warnings and feedback. Limited hangouts of all sorts require some truth. Usually some valuable and particularly desired truth. In all my work discerning the most plausible versions of reality I found one truth stands out. I need to hear all versions that I can and then compare sources, commonalities, contradictions and contrasts. Experience has trained me to trust least those demanding trust the most. Same goes to faith. Mine is always and has always been my responsibility. Even when I may wish it were someone else’s.

    In this regard most leaders in religion govt and life come to think of it have played us all for good cop bad cop. Or good bully bad bully.

    This all makes it a few miles of a longer walk to throw in with any group requiring progressively more faith in interpretations galore of events decidedly variously interpreted and recorded or not.

    Take a look at Doc’s post about the DB banker killed that was uniformly interpreted as either a blow to Trump or a blow to Dems via Epstein but most importantly NOBODY interpreted it as a blow to both. (Please excuse the shouted caps.)

    So Doc, any help you can give with an Orthodox view is appreciated.

    All, before giving more time to Atwill you might want to consider youtubing his documentary. I think it was an hour easily played at 2x.

  2. Thanks, goshawks!!! When one has been raised in the Christianity mindset brainwashing, one usually does not depart from it. Circumstances of my own life caused me to start questioning & I have come to the conclusion that it was simply a story fashioned to be able to control the masses & it has done so for centuries!!!

    What blows my mind is that even our great scientists, like I. Newton, felt they had to fit all their reasonings within the Biblical mindset as if it WERE, somehow, the ultimate Word of God!!! Swedenborg also seemed to operate under the same mindset. I assume those involved in the Secret Projects are forced to realize the Christianity mindset is very confining!! I remember when I first was starting to question things, I listened to Charles Hall & The Tall Whites & was amazed to hear him say he was STILL a Catholic, even tho’ within his own experience he had been dealing with “others”!!! It seems we need to get over the mindset that we are the “epitomy” of Creation. At age 75 I have only been “awake” for 5 years & it has been an interesting journey!! 😉

  3. Kinetic energy.

    Reminds me of a clairvoyant babushka telling me how she had a vision of people hiding underground because fire (technology, not natural) from heaven was being directed at people.
    According to her they were being punished because they weren’t allowed to breed. This from a woman who never watched TV nor read a book outside the bible.

    1. johnycomelately, there are several ‘underground cities’ around the world:
      https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/the-hidden-world-of-underground-cities
      “The cities of Özkonak, Derinkuyu, and Kaymaklı in Cappadocia, Turkey, are some of the most complete (and most underground) of our underground cities. Denrikuyu is estimated to have once been capable of housing 20,000 people, and actually connects to Kaymakli via an underground tunnel, eight kilometers long. The cities are just three of a huge number of underground refuges in Turkey, and each is suggested to have been occupied since antiquity.”

      These cities are thought to be relatively recent by archeologists, but there is no evidence of the massive amount of soil/rock that was dug out. For nature to have completely removed this ‘spoil’ suggests a very ancient origin. And then, there is the question of why the local population needed to ‘hide’ from the sky…

  4. One Hour??!!! YES! You may have heard of Bob Dean? A military friend of his told him that he entered an “elevator” somewhere in our SW, had been told to put on a “summer” uniform”….he pressed the button he had been told to & when the door opened, he heard an officer say, “Welcome to Pine Gap, Sir”!! 😉 That could be what was referred to at Hillsdale College!!

    goshawks….Just wondering what your opinion might be on the book, “The Jesus Papers”? He found Roman records stating that Jesus was alive in 45 A.D. & had bought land in Alexandria…..which would further point to The Jesus Story handed down to us WAS a gov’t tool!!! 😉 By the way, my Father was a Baptist minister, so I am well-versed in Biblical Theology!

    1. LLD, I have not read The Jesus Papers by Michael Baigent. I have his books, but ‘something’ is keeping them far down in the to-read pile. Intuition? That is not to say that there is not something extremely ‘fishy’ (sorry) around Jesus’ life and death/resurrection. Ralph Ellis has researched that Jesus was captured when Jerusalem fell, was crucified but taken down, and was banished to the far end of the Empire: Britain. He was ‘imprisoned’ in a half-temple/half-fort until he died. All of this because he was of royal bloodline.

      (Ellis makes a case that Jesus’ timeline was shifted in the New Testament. Jesus was actually a prime figure in the Jewish–Roman bloodbath [66–73 CE], sometimes called the Great Revolt or The Jewish War. A big stretch, but Ellis provides multiple sources which tie Biblical ‘clues’ together. We will see…)

  5. ZBD and Goshawks, it is my impression that Atwill’s book is a well-crafted distraction, similar to works like “The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail”.

    1. Dana: I agree. I’ve read neither author, but I always check the outlines of the story from someone before investing in their literary works. There is nothing in their biographies that suggests to me they have the requisite skills to accomplish such efforts. In their online interviews they lack the discipline or the humility to speak intelligently about the subject. Dr. Farrell is very much a gentleman in this regard. At the same time I would not discourage anyone considering their arguments–but, they should give these men’s opinions critical attention. Anyone can write a book, but that doesn’t mean they have the requisite skills to back it up with serious argumentation and a detailed inventory of peer reviewed evidence. Like any serious historically anomaly this one requires serious historical data that can be analyzed critically and carefully. I can buy Oswald’s innocence in the killing of JFK–but these ideas smell funny to me. Until I know the source of the stench, henceforth I intend to remain silent. ZDB and Goshawks, I like you both. Don’t be conned by anyone. Do some homework before taking these men seriously.

      1. OC, thanks for the concern. I have not read anything by Atwill, other than a bit of internet digging as a result of ZDB’s comment. I will do due diligence.

        On Ralph Ellis, I proceeded with extreme caution. He is a self-proclaimed atheist and Freemason, so I read all his works with a lot of attention as to ‘bias’ from these viewpoints. (He is/was a commercial pilot, so his work is of a no-nonsense ‘practicality’.) His research and conclusions seemed pretty clear of bias, although he inserted a high degree of negativity concerning Islam from his “Mary Magdalene” book onwards.

        Ellis is one of those few, true ‘polymaths’. Also, he is brilliant in noticing where facts do not line up, and relentlessly pursuing a topic – no matter how controversial. (After reading his books – every one, including appendices – I am aware of the tremendous amount of facts stored in his head. His work is like several self-taught Ph.D.s. And by reading them as they came out, I am aware of how he gradually came to his conclusions. And yes, he may have had ‘help’ from friendly masons with big libraries.)

        Two things which most people do not know about Ellis’ views: In the appendix of his “Solomon” book, I believe, he acknowledges that we have been ‘visited’ in the past. He believes that they went away, long ago, and won’t be back. Also, in an internet interview, he said that our deep past included a “2001 Monolith” type of event. So, Ellis is not only digging in ‘recent’ times, but is also aware of a Gizar-like deep past.

        To sum up my current views around Ellis, I am continuing to be cautious because of his ‘background’, but I find his work to be amazing. I am still on the fence on certain things, but his research is truly eye-opening (especially on Egypt, from the deep past to the Amarna era).

  6. Elon Musk has been talking about using Starship for super fast surface to surface transport for a while now. G. Harry Stein discussed it too in his book Halfway to Anywhere.

  7. I saw one of these capsules he refers to go silently skipping by at several thousand km/hr a few years ago so I am not at all surprised. I assume he’s also referring to the so-called TR3Bs that have been spotted since the 80s all over, notably in the upper Midwest (where UFOlogists assume they’re based) and the famous Brussels flyover from the same period. Lord only knows what they have now.

  8. Doc, do you think this another slow rollover of tech from old to new that channels all of us out of old and into a bottlenecked and hence more profitable new tech? Similar to what is being done with petrol to electric cars? Manned to driverless well everything? Landlines to wireless? Individual private data storage to centrally controlled cloud?

    1. Two avenues: (1) Advancing technology, which (surprise!) is more surveillance and top-down-control driven. (2) Minimizing the spiritual aspects, which include advanced human abilities. Both are necessary to ‘entrap’ humanity…

  9. Anakephalaiosis, I am curious what you (and everyone here) think of Joe Atwell and his Ceasar’s Messiah theory of the last 3000 or so years of military/religious/literary history.

    1. I think he’s spot on; the parallelism between the chronology of Jesus’ ministry and the Flavian conquest of Judea — once revealed — cannot be explained otherwise than by his thesis (i.e., that the New Testament was written with the intentions he posits.) I think it’s revelatory and compelling.

    2. ZDB, I haven’t read Joe Atwell and his Caesar’s Messiah yet, but his theory of wholesale Roman dabbling in religious writings is paralleled in Ralph Ellis’ work. The big difference between the two authors is that Atwell’s work indicates that Jesus was a wholly fictional character, while Ellis’ work indicates that Jesus was physically real (King of Edessa; roughly in the Syria area) but his life history was scrubbed/mangled by the victorious Romans for political purposes…

      (And yes, with Miles Mathis’ parallel work, I believe real history is different than propagandized history. I sure hope we get access to the Akashic Records, pronto…)

    3. From Atwill himself:
      http://www.caesarsmessiah.com/blog/will-caesars-messiah-turn-the-sheep-into-citizens
      “It seems no matter who we elect, or what form of political structure we try, the results are the same – financial insecurity for the masses, boundless wealth for a select few, endless wars, and ever increasing military and surveillance technology. Why is this? Is there some flaw in our nature that makes it impossible for us to elect decent leaders? Some claim that political power always causes men to go mad. Understanding that Christianity was not a religion but a government tool has led me to a different conclusion. I believe that rulers have never lost the basic understanding that led them to create Christianity, and that this enables them to remain in power no matter what form of government the people attempt. In fact, most forms of government – even the so-called democracies – were either designed to keep power in the hands of the same group, or have been subverted over time to do so.”

      1. Atwill seems awake. Continuing the above:
        “Though the United States appears to be a democracy, it is not. It is an oligarchy kept in place by an ancient technique. The political candidates we can choose from, are a tiny group that somehow emerges through a selection process run exclusively by the media. Our current rulers own the media and use it in the same way the Flavians did. They control the ideas and personalities that their population has access to, and thereby shape their minds and limit their choices.”

        (This gets back to Miles Mathis’ comments on what he calls “The Phoenicians” running everything, or even further to Anunnaki and “We are Owned” roots…)

        1. oh and Atwill relies on Josephus, who has that story about how he survived in the cave hiding from the romans, with a suicide pact that left just he and his buddy surviving cause they were the last two and could not fall on their own swords. so many grains of salt there.
          Paul Johnson’s History of Christianity, “it would take more than a Jesus to invent a jesus”… which could also be seen in the light of “it would take more than a Rotschild to invent this banking system”.. and the real powers, whatever they are, choose to remain hidden (or we cannot see them).

          1. Pierre, author Ralph Ellis agrees with you on Josephus. He considers Josephus to be (1) a Roman agent and (2) the same ‘person’ as Saul/Paul (via analysis of life events).

            (On who are the ‘real’ powers, yep, it’s likely that anyone we know the name of is just a public front…)

      2. Last night I watched Sarah Westall’s interview with Elana Freeland & it helped me understand the Bigger Picture of what has been going on in the 90’s up until now. I have been asking myself, “WHO is continually spraying this planet & for what reason?”

        Mike Morales of Above Ground World News follows it daily & has figured out the various “tools” they use to carry out the “program”. None of us ever consented to this, which tells me that we have NO idea who the Ultimate Controllers are!!!

  10. While I am hoping that the “Establishment” is moving towards Disclosure, I suspect the USAF General’s comments refer to SpaceX (and possibly Blue Origin). There is a grand fight going-on in the shadows about whether reusable rockets are real (in the ‘practical’ sense). Old Space vs New Space…

    The famous quote “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win” applies here. The current phase for reusability is somewhere between fight-you and win, and the General is voicing the interior ‘dialogue’.

    Where the ‘mission’ applies is seen in the last SpaceX launch:
    https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/12/spacex-to-attempt-cargo-launch-upper-stage-experiment-for-second-time/
    “This will be a typical supply mission for NASA, the 19th such flight that SpaceX has made to ferry food, supplies, and scientific experiments to the orbiting laboratory. But there is one interesting aspect of the first stage landing, which will take place offshore rather than at a landing site on the Florida coast.

    Asked about this earlier this week, SpaceX’s director of Dragon mission management, Jessica Jensen, said the rocket’s upper stage is slated to fly a ‘thermal demonstration’ for another, unnamed customer. To put this second stage into the proper orbit for this demonstration, the first stage will need to burn longer and will not have the fuel needed to return to the coast. Jensen declined to provide additional information, and this indicates the customer may be the US Air Force, seeking some kind of assurance about the rocket’s performance for a future classified mission.”

    There are also a series of comments starting after this one that indicate a clandestine ‘assurance’ flight:
    arstechnica . com/science/2019/12/spacex-to-attempt-cargo-launch-upper-stage-experiment-for-second-time/?comments=1&post=38373643#comment-38373643
    The gist seems to be that the USAF wanted proof that the SpaceX Falcon 9 second-stage engine could be re-fired after a six-hour coast in space (hot/cold soaking, zero-G effects, etc.) The ‘public’ story is that it is for a geostationary-orbit capability. However, the same ‘burn’ could be used to deorbit to anywhere on Earth.

    In addition, note that the Falcon 9 has been used to launch the Boeing X-37 ‘secret squirrel’ reusable spaceplane:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_X-37
    Note also that no mission has ever been disclosed for the X-37. But, it does (in combination with the Falcon 9) meet all the General’s ‘criteria’:
    (1) life-giving payloads and personnel (assuming X-37 is made manned-capable)
    (2) within a half-meter anywhere in the world within about 30 minutes of launch (Falcon 9 second-stage plus X-37)
    (3) enabling technologies such as fully-reusable launch vehicles (Falcon 9 plus X-37)

    Sometimes, 1 + 1 does indeed equal 2…

    (By the way, the SpaceX “BFR” combo (‘Super Heavy’ reusable first-stage plus ‘Starship’ reusable second-stage) could accomplish all the above, but it is somewhere between the “ignore you, then they laugh at you” stages in the Establishment. Not quite ‘real’ for them, yet…)

    1. These technologies fail at transporting humans anywhere within an hour though, right? Live humans anyway.

      1. Btw I still find the bot, Elon’s winsome arguments that his landings are real because they look so fake, lacking. What they do look like are reversed video of mediocre launches. Think we could get Miles to analyse some of Elons vids?

        Which brings to mind another of the genius poser memes of Elon’s that we are all supposed to jump at the chance to chop n wire our brains to keep from being left behind in all things thought?

        1. I am of the opinion that Elon Musk is well-within alphabet agency orbit. That he has his own ‘handlers’, as it were. Funds funneled his way. However, as an ex-aerospace engineer, I believe the takeoffs and landings are real – based on the cameras carried-along during each mission. The details are sufficiently different on each launch/landing to be hard to fake.

          In the bigger picture, the successes of SpaceX could be distraction from breakaway-civilization stuff. They could be leading the public along a very slooow pathway to space, while the Anunnaki side is rebuilding their spacefleet. Time will tell…

          1. Yep. That’s all more plausible possibilities. Add to that the idea that Elon is already very chipped. There’s gotta be a better way to catalogue and search Miles. I want to say he did a decent bit on folk with implants and left black eyes and so on. Trying to find it now. Makes me suspect Max Keiser more and more too. I loved his treatment on the shuttle launches. Have you seen any of those ?

          2. @ZenHogbreath. there is.
            save as pdf (which MM’s already are)
            using linux, and recoll.
            search query restricted to file location.(first time I tried this now, and it works). insert your own location.
            “black eyes”d dir:/media/………./mileswmathis.com
            subject my perhaps not saving them all (you can use wget for that), I only came up with one black eyed bull. I vaguely recall what you are talking about though.
            one can then compare to web search engines which increasingly, and certainly since the alta-vista days of almost regen level of control, ignore me.
            duckduckgo, or not go,.
            site:mileswmathis.com “black eyes”
            alternative (maybe not miles after all)
            https://newspunch.com/celebrities-black-left-eyes-illuminati/

      2. I just looked up “Orbit of a Satellite calculator” :
        https://keisan.casio.com/exec/system/1224665242
        Putting in 80km (50 miles), which is the USAF&NASA-recognized boundary of space, you get an orbital period of 86 minutes. Since that is a full orbit, you can reach any point on Earth in a half-orbit or less by launching West-ish or East-ish. So, 43 minutes at most…

        There is also the Cold War developed “Fractional Orbital Bombardment System” (FOBS) :
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractional_Orbital_Bombardment_System
        This is where you never intended to go into a full orbit. It is sometimes called a “depressed trajectory” launch which has a lower & flatter trajectory and takes less time between launch and ‘landing’. That might further cut the minutes.

        So, a SpaceX and X-37 combo might indeed come close to landing “anywhere in the world within about 30 minutes of launch.” Having it be life-giving payloads and personnel is another matter…

    1. damn#2 in copy and pasting from firefox to opera having done a reply, it gets posted as a reply to another comment…. such is life in the fast lane.

  11. This sounds like Star Trek teleporters meet Master Of The World in the novel with Ben Rich as the man behind the curtain.

  12. Robert Barricklow

    Well, I certainly am on the same page as space being for mankind and society as a whole; rather than corporate owned and operated on an ongoing inhuman mission. Space for the living is more my style and vision.

    Of course, in recognizing the source of information; one must lean heavily on the use of force and the multiplier adjuncts waiting in the wings.

    That said, the General is letting some Ben Rich type truisms out, though couched carefully in several possible narrative lines of interpretation.

    Therefore, I say lets bring these tried and true “new” technologies to bring about a space for all humanity, designed for, by, and the living.

    1. Robert Barricklow

      …and bury those
      inhuman corporations,
      in a deep-six space
      where they belong,
      dead and long gone.

  13. Weaponization of the Runes is the capability to move quickly from life to life, theoretically, and that threatens the patented afterlife of papacy.

    When using the sundial as template to map lifespan, then the observer becomes located in a present cycle, that compares to past and future cycles.

    Assuming, that reincarnation happens in bloodlines, then one literally becomes one’s own grandfather paradox, over and over again.

    Ancient Britons were fierce warriors, because of this world view, since death is not the end, being a new beginning, in eternal life cycle.

    The “founding father”-ideology has papal origin, since Geopold Swampington was a secret Jesuit. Rejection of natural ancestry is by design.

    Papal empire wants mind slaves, and brainwashed slaves don’t have ancestors, only surrogate Jesuit founders, posing as paters.

    Historically, Freemasons are Jesuits, disguised behind apron.

      1. THE devil? DB, please do better. At the least, the point A makes seems that all and various organizations poised to do good have been Arlington Roaded.

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