OF SPACE-BASED QUARANTINE ZONES…
Today's article-for-discussion came from an individual who wishes to remain completely Anonymous, not even any initials; so, thank you, you know who you are.
Now, when I first read this article, I was rather mystified as to why it was sent. This is not to say that it was not interesting. It was, but it was the kind of "interesting" that newspapers used to call "fillers": you'd get a call from an editor saying "I need six column inches of sports or human interest filler", and so on. So I read the column filler with a modicum of interest, until I reached a statement that made me sit up and take notice, for that statement revealed why Anonymous sent the article, because it's a statement with huge implications. Here's the article:
‘Of course we are not alone’: Russian scientist says we’re using wrong tools to hunt for aliens
Note the usual statements about the need for "interdisciplinary approaches", creative thinking, and so on. Maybe to "find ET", says the scientist, we need 24 hour-per-day, 7 days a week global signals scanning to find that "WOW" signal that SETI, the Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence has been searching for, in vain, for so long.
He suggests that it’s entirely possible that a number of advanced civilizations have created a quarantine zone around us, complete with a radio blackout, so as not to interfere with our independent development.
Panov says astroarchaeology is hugely important to determine whether extraterrestrial life has visited us over the past tens of millions of years. He suggests that highly detailed photography of the surface of the moon is critical to our investigations of our possible extraterrestrial past. (Emphasis added)
Now, as far as I know, Mr. Panov's statement about a "quarantine zone" around the Earth is the first time to my knowledge that an academic has raised this point in connection with the search of extra-terrestrial life. Back inn 2015, I raised the idea in connection with the manuscript of Enoch, and with what I've been calling the "Versailles Template" of a "post-cosmic-war Earth." In Mr. Panov's equally credible speculation, perhaps such a zone exists as a kind of "prime directive" way to embargo information from reaching the earth.
Either way, I find the mention of the quarantine zone in connection to the search for ET to be intriguing from any number of points of view, but let's consider just one, that of my "Versailles Template." IN that model, I assumed that at the end of an ancient interplanetary war the "victors" imposed a kind of enforced "demilitarization" zone around the Earth, and prohibited certain types of "things" in outer space (like weapons). Following this template, a system of monitoring and espionage would be imposed. But one of the things I did not talk about in that model, and that Mr. Panov clearly implies, is that the quarantine also included the notion of no technological or information transmission to the defeated (Germany) that would allow a rearmament.
So if the quarantine model is true, it is as much about keeping information from us, as to keep us from "out there."
Mr. Panov's suggestion here carries a huge epistemological implication, namely, that if there is such a quarantine, then there are active measures both to prevent information from reaching us, or to obfuscate what information as does do so. How might one find out if it's so? I suspect this might be behind his suggestion of a global signals intercept program, scanning frequencies to see which may be "jammed," and so on. Are there anomalous patterns of interference that could only be detected by comparing global patterns of signals disruption, and so on?
And if I can think of these questions as implications of his remarks, rest assured he, and the Russians, already have.
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We have a natural barrier, the Ionosphere, which is why you can hear distant AM stations at night because the signal bounces off it, back to Earth, then bounces again. During the day it dissipates, so that can’t be it. Also what about spacecraft we’ve launched to distant planets, yet are still in communication with? I don’t think that’s the answer.
But I DO think we’re soon to learn the extent of alien infiltration into our society. Way too many “experiencers” have reported tales of abduction and impregnation with fetuses in tubes and adult “hybrids” learning from the experiences what it takes to “blend in” to Human society, awaiting what they call “the change”. I don’t think Dr. David Jacobs is crazy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOnLRZDm8ec
More & more I am beginning to think we are players in Somebody Else’s Big Video Game!! So many people, as children, have some experience which seems to set them on their own particular Journey while in this “meatsuit” existence!! Then there is this….many of us have had what we could call “supernatural experiences” where, looking back, we can see Somebody had stepped in to make sure things went in a particular direction….fulfilling THEIR objectives, nothing we ourselves had thought out!!!
For any who are unaware of the work of BILLY CARSON, his “take” on our past is most interesting!! 4biddenknowledge He has read most of the Ancient Writings & been able to compare them from outside the framework of a preconceived set of human reasonings…….such as the Medieval Mindset we in the West have been subject to where one is not allowed to think Outside the Box that we have been encased in since birth!!
Maybe we are trapped in this Reincarnation Cycle until we FINALLY realize we are Eternal, Sovereign Beings & begin to take charge of our own Self, guiding our own Destiny??? That’s what I’m hoping, anyways!!! 😉
Think about it!! It really doesn’t matter what any of us “believe” as none of us are really sure about what the True Reality IS!!! So this COULD just be a Big Video Game we are in & we’re trying to find our way around the maze!!
Reminds one of Charles Fort’s observation that radio-waves ‘hit something’ and were reflected back…
A couple of thoughts brought up by Joseph’s article:
First, alien civilizations may go through only a very-brief period of unencrypted messaging. Even if they go through an ‘idyllic’ path to being a spacefaring culture (no internal warfare), chances are they would run into “Klingons” in short order. Hence, no perceived messaging from our end; just ‘static’…
Second, a quarantine scenario which could be positive or negative: The ‘original civilization’ meme. Star Trek and Star Gate had a few episodes where ‘immigrant’ peoples to a planet either wished to forget or were forced to forget that they had earlier history off-planet.
In our case, it could be a semi-positive case where ‘good’ aliens wish to establish a from scratch mindset to avoid mistakes they made. Or, that we (colonists) made previously – cue Atlantis music…
Or, it could be a majorly-negative case where ‘bad’ aliens wish to create a subject race which might be used and abused. Enlil/Enki, anyone? (Tolkien indirectly mentioned this possibility, where he postulated that Orcs were biologically-derived from tortured/mutilated Elves. What did he know?)
More and more plausible story less and less myth to what we say every day. How long ago did the msm claim consensus on Troy being pure myth?
Sneaking up on finding Atlantis every day. And now
Sodom & Gomorrah: LOSERS HISTORY Episode 2
Has this all been done before? Over and over and over?
Zecharia Sitchin (Twelfth Planet, et al) was of the opinion that what has come down to us as the “Sodom & Gomorrah” story was part of the Anunnaki Civil War. Second-string ‘god’ Ninurta was given direction at a Enlil-side “Council of the Gods” to unleash large-scale Anunnaki weaponry on the other side (Enki and offspring Marduk). The area east/south of the Dead Sea was part of the area ‘hit’:
“Natural Background Radiation in Jordan” (1979)
“As it is shown previously, Jordan has high background radiation. This high background radiation is related to the effect that vast areas of Jordan high plateau are covered by phosphate deposition which has about 150 ppm in average of uranium. … Recently in the areas surrounding the Phosphate belt, new investigations proved the existence of high uranium concentration of about 1000 ppm in the recent sedimentations of chalky marl type that overlie the phosphorous and oil shale layers…” (p.22)
(The above is ‘natural’, of course…)
I have thought along similar lines any advanced civilization would cover its tracks. Space stations think nonmilitary death star moons radio silence especially if you have a solar system inhabited by savages who like the late Stanton Friedman use to say the major profession is tribal war nearby.
It could be an accidental advantage on our part if most intelligent technological aliens don’t consider that any technological species could not be intelligent enough to not broadcast its existence when it was potentially weaker than those that might hear. The way we rock the whole Galaxy with our radio waves with no fear of being detected might be putting great fear into those who are wise enough not to do so. They may assume we are much greater than we are and that we are only pretending to be unintelligent when they finally decode enough of our culture to watch and understand our TV shows and music. We must be a trap of some sort and not really easy prey; so just to be safe they give us a wide birth. Our radio waves no doubt are being detected because of the quantum entangled fields they produce all over the galaxy. Unbeknownst to us of course otherwise would we still do it? But they don’t know that we don’t know that yet.
Maybe this is the real reason for all the crazy Syfy movie funding. Maybe we finally realized our mistake so hastened to make all kinds of movies that made us look more technologically advanced than we are and with all kinds of superpowers. We’re bluffing them!
Andromeda character ‘Trance Gemini’ (Episode: “Last Call at the Broken Hammer”):
Trance: (to Hsigo) “I know this may be a stretch for you, but think: You’re twice as big as me, and you look pretty scary. But, I’m still standing up to you. So, either I am crazy or I am really, really dangerous. Would you like to guess which? … I didn’t think so.”
Odd that you mentioned Andromeda series; just started re-watching the whole series on Tubi two days ago. Missed a lot of episodes back when it was airing.
Not one to add a flashpoint to your “high octane speculations / suspicions,” but Russian elites (military, governing oligarchy, or mafia style wealthy class) are probably not much better informed than those within the western democracies. There are likely limits of trust, you know, the secretive-don’t tell-keep your mouth shut types presumably in control with deep pockets and such. Parity with the Others is not something this warring upright simian species can boast about. Fool some of the less informed, ignorant, and taxpayer base (corporations included) for a while, yes, but that has limits, too. Money buys many things, the stealth and wiser deployment of the Others technology means of existence, is not one of them (crash wreckage included). That’s not to say there has not been advances due to exposure of such high strangeness. That alone encourages thinking outside the box to start. Many authors do quite well in their publications, too, as the language limit permits.
In one’s humble opinion, this business of meeting the Others, the implication that it must be of experts and researchers well-funded or have deep pockets, special representation by military brass on tarmacs, clandestine rendezvous in forests or high security basement facilities, missile silos incognito, as gifted authors espouse because their secondhand accounts of words flow together, and on and on, can be seen as an affront to those who’ve had direct contact with Others over the decades and those posthumously over centuries and have dealt with the encounter(s) as they took place and as each individual was capable. Without special pretense, arrangements, or rituals.
The anthropomorphisms ascribed to these different Others, each interesting in themselves, nearly always lack an appropriate description – symbolism or language if you like. The Others are nearly always the master’s in art-form and thought-form. Not even underground or subterranean vaults prevent the Others theirs means of contacting their own elsewhere.
For some folks, meetings are repeated though are not duplications of the previous. Some are modified as the initial primeval-shock-reaction has dissipated and no longer an emotive threat or impedance toward further interaction(s). As for the Other’s motives and purposes? . . . Heck if I know. They’re not obligated to impart such curiosities of thought into language form for upright simian types. Although, . . one would NOT imply nor say that such encounters were uninteresting.
The existence and presence of the Others is not contingent on terrestrial anthropomorphic policies, bigotries, or necessarily of preferences of the locals in their huts, homes, or seated at their hearths during frigid winters or on tropical island paradises or swimming in rip currents along the shoreline of the Gulf Stream. The latest meme for world order by elitists is not a factor, either, despite their prance and dance via megaphones and video.
If other folks want proof-i-ness, their special-science yielding-unequivocal hands on, thump on proof, let them get their own since they think they know what it is to recognize it as they’ll have to take up their requests with, they (The Others), who can provide that specific firsthand proof they desire should the Others decide to oblige that request. Unless wreckage be left behind, of course. Knowing is often more than enough. Expecting parity through back engineering that the Others will not know about is vain arrogance unbounded to say little about excessively expensive beyond humankind’s resources. There’s no instruction manual on how to interact or react if initially it’s a primeval-shock reaction one first undergoes, either. You know, . . . overcome, adapt, and improvise with hello or unarmed handshake gesture, or even a question that begins with an emotive sensation of WOW and, “How do you do that?” or something. Preparation for an encounter and actual encounter are literally worlds apart. Must warn you though, answers can be a bit overwhelming at first, but you’ll get over it over time thinking about it. Understanding it better while engaged in the process.
You know the ole expression in question form, “Are we alone?” . . . Well, . . . NO! . . . And neither are they!
Didn’t Germany brake the Versailles treaty quite fast after the war by experimenting with new kind of weaponry on the territory of Soviet Russia far beyond quarantine zone. If we are dealing with rational free will beings, chances are many of them over the millennia have contacted us on multiple occasion. First thing that comes to mind in recent history is N. Tesla and all his inventions that can’t be easily explained by traditional physics and which by his own admission came to him in his dreams and visions from some kind of being “up there”, Finally there are recordings of Art Bell show with late fr. M. Martin where he talks of so called “middle plateau” where no beings are allowed or it is too dangerous to go there without certain spiritual protection.
Great Gardeners of Gizardom,
for sowing these seeds and seeing them too!
Warm fuzzy waves coming from the sky:)
Before even reading I had thought of Earth being terraformed/quarantined to meet “others” demands.
2nd paragraph/”editor” = algorithm written; human edited?
“Independent development” = terraforming according to
“terms of agreement”?
Extraterrestrial past = our future?
Prime directive = aid the Duchess of Alice in Wonderland
“The more there is of mins, the less there is of yours”.
If there is communication it probably is..
based upon a non-local quantum kind of tech in nature.
I would be inclined to believe that the Tower of Babel was one indication that we are under some type of quarantine.
Intriguing! Gives new meaning to eat from the forbidden tree of knowledge. So what is the serpent and what path Is it steering us down?
Once we realize the fruit of the Tree of Life was not a forbidden fruit, why did they never eat that fruit when it was perfectly OK? To me it seems to be the major flaw in the whole rationale of the story, and who was behind the spread of that story?
Communism, as enemy within, promotes playing with matches, for the purpose of burning down the house, as an act of war.
Forbidden knowledge gained, by destroying one’s house, is a close encounter with the elements. One gets cold and wet.
Communism is satisfaction in destroying, from the envious lust, that spurs the thief.
That is the devil.
Yes, this is commensurate with Sabak’s analysis too. The Serpent is pushing communism and has it’s trail all over the EU too. Funny that alot of UFO cults also pushing communism – George Adamski was well known for saying that the space religion is communism – maybe that is a false quarantine of sorts. Whatever has to thieve to survive and cannot create or make itself is symptomatic of digital processes.
If we are a microcosmic model of the universe perhaps the quarantine is within the human body. Crisper? Instead of looking “out there” look within us.
Good one Billy Bob.
I think the same; in that “they” engineered us a slaves, but a specialized one at that.
You are on to something Robert, ’cause can we even name one major civilization on the planet that did NOT, or does NOT have some sort of spiritual-religious belief system?
Won’t be any humans left to watch in a few years. And China didn’t do it. We all knew this day was coming and who would be behind it when it came. And aliens are not behind it. We’ve proven we are too weak and decadent for advanced technology, especially our predatory elite who have now committed genocide on a global scale.
Richard Dawkins meme comes right on cue; w/other in tow.
Yep, they know their in your face inside jokes and cryptic pat on the backs for their foul deed will be ignored by the masses even if it gets pointed out to them. They’ve gotten away with too much and their hubris is their down fall. For the one percent of the 99 that noticed outnumber them and their armies and if gets bad for their families I wouldn’t want to be them when this virus settles down. Hopefully it will mutate into a dud soon; maybe we all together can will it to do so. Perhaps our quarantine from the rest of the Universe is self imposed by each of us individually because WE aren’t mentally ready to meet them and so we mentally block THEM out of OUR potential existence.
Or we might give the social engineers roo much credit. Read today that people in China are spitting on everything. Also that the msm that does cover it splains it away with idea it is a wierd protest of poor handling of health care.
Wonder why people would do that? Think they might know that pollution is causing pneumonia for last 10 years and not a virus? Or that they are being medically martial lawed and genocided?
Even without a virus, how long can people in such a day by day society not get sick while in such a lockdown – no work no shopping no travel no touching no nothing? Does China have enough troops to medically euthanize all their apparently expendable slaves? Are they about to start more overt attacks?
Sure hope there are no parallels to a space quarentine.
In the Cosmic War scenario, a quarantine situation sounds feasible. A radio wave block could be in place since humanity started widespread us of this form of communication, but there are other ways to communicate. Perhaps this quarantine is actually selective. We do have a lot of images from the Moon, Mars and elsewhere indicating artificial structures. We do not have footage from newscasts or sitcoms produced in Andromeda, but even if we had they would probably be virtually meaningless to us. The problem is that we could be “quarantined within the quarantine” by the powers that shouldn’t be here on Earth.
We should consider the flip scenario, sort of what Dana is suggesting, “we could be “quarantined within the quarantine”, where active measures are in place to prevent ‘our’ information from reaching the prying eyes ‘n ears of ‘others’. That seems to be the most likely scenario, if there is such a quarantine.
It took 3 years to solve the Runes, and additional 2 years, to connect them to the sundial template, as “Rynes”.
Predictably, the Old English “ryne” – as orbital course – would have had to have been the original source.
Papacy is burning Notre Dame today, because there is a revealing sundial, in the window display.
Ælfric circumvent the papal censorship, and left a word spelling clue, in public display: