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PRINCETON ABOLISHES LATIN AND GREEK REQUIREMENTS… IN CLASSICS

It's been quite a while since I've indulged in a rant about Amairikuhn edgykayshun but when T.M. shared the following article I knew I had to, because the galloping nuttery in the Amairikuhn quackademy knows no bounds. Princeton is dropping its requirements in Latin and Greek in its classics department:

Princeton Removes Greek, Latin Requirement for Classics Majors to Combat ‘Systemic Racism’

I don't even know where to start. Already we've seen mathematics "professors" wailing about the inherent "racism" in mathematics, which leaves me at a loss for how 2+2 = 4 is somehow racist. Presumably, 2+2=4 for blacks, whites, "Asians", midgets, giants, men, women, and all things in between. Maybe its all those Greek letters, or something. The latest twist to the folly seems to be that getting the correct answer isn't as important as "trying" and "showing your work", until, of course, the airplanes start falling out of the sky or the rockets go off course, or Alexa accidentally launches the missiles when people, according to a recent cartoon, were simply ordering lunch. There's only one letter difference, after all, between "lunch" and "launch", so why quibble over mere details?

Getting rid of Latin and Greek in the classics opens a door to all sorts of mischief. We can have "Vedic studies" without Sanskrit, and for the same reasons, that it's racism against - oh, let's say - the Chinese who - poor things - are stuck with an ancient system of ideograms and incapable  of Sanskrit subtlety. We can have Russian, French, Italian, Spanish, Swahili or German literature without Russian, French, Italian, Spanish, Swahili or German. We're going to have to redo our alphabets to get rid of the inherent anti-ideogram biases of Roman, Cyrillic, and Sanskrit characters. Arabic is going to be an especial problem because it's biased against left-to-right readers because of its right-to-left bias, so we're going to have to promote left-hand Arabic (with commensurate revision of all of Arabic literature).

But wait, there's more; there's a key word in Princeton's proposals:

“The actions we take to promote equity and inclusion will not suffice to protect members of our community from discrimination and the effects of systemic racism – particularly anti-Black racism,” the statement adds. “For that reason, we end by expressing our solidarity with efforts to achieve equity in our nation and our world.” (Boldface emphasis added)

Equity? Don't you mean "equality"? I thought one of the benefits of a classical education was learning the roots of Greek and Latin words and their meanings, and being able to understand how those languages have influenced our own, and to use words accurately. So since when did "equity" replace "equality"?

Or is there another game here?

I suspect, of course, it's another game, because "equity" is a term of ownership, of being -to use the other contemporary euphemism - a "stakeholder" in a project, in this case, to turn students into the owners of the texts...

... and if they own the texts of Plato, or Aristotle, or Virgil, or Plutarch or Ovid or Plotinus, they can revise those texts according to their own whims and agendas...

See you on the flip side...

 

50 thoughts on “PRINCETON ABOLISHES LATIN AND GREEK REQUIREMENTS… IN CLASSICS”

  1. The use of the word ‘equity’ implies ownership. They wish to achieve ownership… slavery. There seems to be some kind of requirement to always tell us the truth about what they are doing at some level.

  2. Oh I just can’t wait to read the “woke” version of Proclus, Iamblichus, and dear god I can only imagine what they will do to Plato’s Republic…amongst other things….HARD COPIES folks, get em!

  3. If colleges ever start emphasizing Vedism instead of Greek and Latin culture in the west a lot of eyes would open. The Asuras/Aryans philosophies and spiritual natures dominate the world today. Anytime the Deva/Devine nature of man starts to gain momentum again anywhere in the world they quickly move to corrupt, suppress or destroy it. Greek and Latin culture has it’s roots in Vedism but it’s dominated by Asuras/Aryan/Demonic/Overly Materialistic nature and view of things. They will also see where the Hebrew beliefs likely originated from, albeit a changed and personalized form of the original. It also looks like most Indo/European cultures devolved and became dominated by the Asura nature, a materialistic tyrannical philosophy that justifies all their inhumane human exploitation that takes place through out history. And then when you figure out who the Vedics are you realize why there is a war against white people being waged. Our Deva sides are particularly powerful when awakened. Never studied the ancient Vedic religion and have just touched it’s surface but it is fascinating and may turn out to connect a lot of missing dots. Did cow mushrooms alter primitive man’s minds and make them capable of more advanced concepts that birthed advanced civilizations and connections to the Devine?

    1. anakephalaiosis

      In the Holy Writ, the Seven Seals are simply trivial quantum leaps, that occur naturally, during natural lifespan.

      These quantum leaps correspond to the 8-point compass, as cyclical pattern, that produces FOUR diametrical oppositions.

      These FOUR paradoxes of Scythian martial art, (that later became known as yoga), are today corrupted in India, whereas they are still intact in Old Norse tradition.

      Agent provocateur Timothy Leary was a mafia-connected Crowley-disciple, promoting Antichrist, by promoting Asiatic sectarianism.

      1. About the mushrooms, I wasn’t advocating their use I was entertaining the idea that their ancient use might have been the catalyst that rewired primitive man’s mind and allowed some to gain higher functions that spurred technological development and made advanced civilization possible. Look at all the years everyone was just chipping stones the same old primitive ways and then suddenly from this group of people huge leaps began to occur. They claim it was from a plant they stole from heaven so it might not be mushrooms. But the couple times I did shrooms in my youth I experienced quite a mind opening philisophical trip where all kinds of connections became clear. But I didn’t become immortal like they claimed their plant they stole from heaven made them. I suspect many cultures this culture touched adopted may of their beliefs. But those stories and beliefs became altered and replaced over time in many different ways by different groups of people in many different regions. The higher original philosophy and science became pantheons of base deities and superstition. Just an idea I’m currently entertaining. Still much more studying to do.

        1. anakephalaiosis

          It is a truth serum. Good men see good things, and bad men see bad things.

          Natural medicine belongs to nature. It is forbidden, to trip in cities.

          Because, when invaded by elemental forces, one must restrain passion.

          Living, dying, rising, falling – all at once – in paradoxical transfiguration.

    1. I think they meant equity…ye ole kickback

      watch this
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hNtmk55ehw

      537

      just 7 banks ?

      something tells me it wasn’t Persian gold but Operation Golden Lily gold transferred from Obammy’s step Dad to Help Obummer buy his way into the
      United Liars What in Tarnation Nations

      Just show me a trade Live Trade Map from the Medieval Ages and it looks more efficient than what we have now–big fat targets on the HIgh Seas .

      Patent stealing has been out sourced

  4. I was an Engineering major, but it strikes me that not requiring Greek or Latin for Classics majors is desiring the same goal as elementary schools no longer teaching cursive writing. If you are no longer capable of reading the original Greek, Latin, or cursive (think Founding Fathers’) documents, you must rely on being TOLD what they say.

    The Princeton article perfectly dovetails with an article from a couple of months ago, which at the time I was suspicious of being an April Fool joke, reporting that Oxford was no longer going to use sheet music for Music majors. Yes, the notes and staff are racist since they only reflect Western musical tradition. Perhaps musical traditions in non-Western countries use different notations, but if so I would wager that a Music major in those countries would not necessarily be required to learn Western musical notation. Anyway, we can look forward to all Western music being entirely improvised within a generation!

  5. Some of the smartest, most successful people I’ve met were high school dropouts. Some of the bleepist, most unimaginative people I’ve ever met were college graduates. In today’s information age there is little need for colleges anymore. Those who want to learn and do something can find most of what they need online. If they really want to do something bad enough they will stick with it and learn it given any opportunity to do so on their own. Companies would be better off teaching and training their own people everything they need to know and how they want it done from people who already showed initiative in their field on their own and excelled on their own. School is about conditioning, brainwashing, and steering the masses where the aristocrats want them rather than helping students develope their own dreams and future. Unfortunately they want them dumbed down, broken and dead or so it seems. So that is what school and the media is attempting to help do.

  6. I think this phenomenon will be self-limiting… eventually. Who’s going to keep paying exorbitant tuition for this kind of nonsense? Rich foreigners will stop sending their kids to U.S. universities; alumni will stop donating. Only federal student loans might be able to keep financing these nutty degree programs. (Your federal tax dollars hard at work!)

    On the linguistic issue, I really don’t believe “equity” is being used in a sense that implies ownership. Almost certainly, it’s being used as defined at https://www.brandeis.edu/diversity/resources/definitions.html. To wit: “The notion of being fair and impartial as an individual engages with an organization or system, particularly systems of grievance. ‘Equity’ is often conflated with the term ‘Equality’ (meaning sameness). In fact, true equity implies that an individual may need to experience or receive something different (not equal) in order to maintain fairness and access…. (See Diversity and Inclusion).”

  7. Equity, equality… what’s the difference?! It seams like a certain group of influential people is in the process of re-assigning the meaning of all words anyway….the real Tower of Babel Moment!

    1. In one’s opinion, equity primarily deals with property such as with money value of a property, ownership right(s) in property, and where corporations are concerned, their common stock(s). It’s used regularly in finance and accounting as well as on business news programs. It’s really easy to get stuck in the weeds, so to speak, with that line of ownership, especially, if there’s no written agreement specifying details of transference when trades occur. Different systems of governance have been arguing over land, sea, and goods for a long time as well as who’s right about what should be done with the stuff.

      Equality deals with an idea of uniformity amongst the haves and have-nots, the doers and do-nots, and which way forward to take for all concerned. [Opportunity] was the founding creed of U.S. society which sets the US apart from other forms of governance and is what makes this nation (the US) a work-in-progress rather than a re-distribution of other people’s hard work for some thug Party takeover or special privilege class because they ordain it or something idiotic in their best thieving interests.Opportunity is nearly always an adversary’s primary target where nation systems are concerned.

      One can note a slurring and twisting by activists that’s been increasing steadily for nearly three decades (excluding what the ole Sovietszky’s are still attempting to do by proxy from earlier). They’re seeking to find middle ground between those two terms to eventually gut the middle and impose a warped re-distribution of what isn’t theirs in the first place often through group think. Again, very much indicative of outside interference from a thug Party seeking to take over what isn’t theirs. Their methodology of failure is so old it’s moldy. The latest manifestation has a red tinge to it and stranger characteristics while using others within as their shields. Quite cowardly, actually. All aspects of culture, society, and governance are seen as “Unrestricted Warfare.” At the moment, negating the messy kinetic components of war of former battlefields.

    2. I think they are already rewriting Aesop’s Fables….(of course the tell tale sign of woke whatever, is it”s ‘message.)
      Once upon a time there was a very angry hare, and a very tired turtle.
      They were in a race sponsored by the woke corporation who had equity in rabbits and turtles.
      The hare was actually just a plain non distinct brown rabbit but was naturally quite quick and the turtle was an environmental specimen from the deep south.
      The turtle’s lineage was indigenous to a mud pond that had previously been found on an ‘old world’ style plantation.
      Therefore, the turtle and it’s ancestors had a special electronic tagging device to remind it’s handlers of the inequities it had incurred coming from such a mud pond.
      The hare on the other hand ,was a rescue rabbit from an industrial slaughterhouse.
      And so, in order to fund the non profit woke corporation, games were sponsored by the center for society management .
      So, on the first Sabbath of some occult calendar, a race was set up, called ‘the tortoise and the hare’ , to be live streamed by members only , of the elite ‘woke’ club.
      In a nutshell, the hare was way too quick to be woke and the tortoise was way too slow to be awake.
      ‘so , the rabbit was given some cbd pellets and the turtle was given a shot of methamphetamine with its annual vaccine shots.
      (Where was PETA!?)
      The race began and the rabbit and the hare stayed close together in fear of what the handlers might do to them next.
      Both the rabbit and the turtle almost crossed the finish line at the same moment. But when the very stoned rabbit came sightly ahead of the turtle , at the very last moment ,the turtled seemed to be given a little jolt of electricity and jumped along side the rabbit , making the race a perfect tie.

      And so the message of this story is..
      There are many ways to enhance equality.

  8. marcos toledo

    Try reading Beowulf in the original Anglo-Saxon it might as well be Arabic then read any of Julius Caesar’s works in the original Latin the words are recognizable what we write is latinize english. I will recommend reading William Tenn’s short story Non P I think that will put this pseudo-academic nonsense in perspective. As Samuel Clements said he never let his schooling interfere with his education. Schools are there not to promote education but to prevent education.

    1. So that’s why the fourth R (rhetoric ) was left out of my educational experience?
      I learned to read, write and do arithmetic, never saw a required class in rhetoric.

      1. A lot of ideas begin with those portions of the brain that support language, a work-in-progress. The instructors may not have been up to the task of discussion.

  9. What the fauci is going on? Did some folks get a shot of stupid instead of a vaccine shot? Or was it a wood alcohol shot instead of a shot of peppermint schnapps. Someone is lost.

    Let’s see, . . . where to hide the books.

  10. Robert Barricklow

    Like the Pope in Vatican II; diluting the Catholic religion so much;
    as to become unrecognizable, to the traditionalist of the faith.
    Now Princeton is diluting its world renown education;
    towards something unrecognizable, at least to their distinguished alumni.
    [although, their “distinguished” marks in skullduggery, will not suffer a wit.]

    To today’s blog.

    “They’re” eliminating high-education subject matters;
    while at the same breath, replacing them w/ideologies.
    Instead of providing students tools for deep & critical thinking;
    “they’re” providing fertile grounds, for an unquestioning worship of idols.

    Whose to blame? The Russians did it!
    The reason for this policy change? Black inclusion!
    It’s a very simple blame game, and policy solution idiom.
    In fact, it’s a no brainer!
    Because these inst1tutions really don’t want any brains working here.

    As a graduate of Princeton;
    you won’t question authority in any form;
    written, or otherwise!

    That’s the Princeton guarantee!
    A no brainer!

  11. Bryn Morgaine

    Ok. I don’t disagree with your concerns. And the trend in this direction does not appear to be slowing. However, knowledge was only powerful because it was rare and hard to come by. Currently we are in hyperinflation of information which has made information cheap and easy to come by. Initially this afforded the quick dissemination of knowledge however we’re most likely 50 years past that point. (I choose this date since it was the point where scientific advance stopped producing meaningful advances in human productivity) So this looks like knowledge, and therefore applied knowledge which becomes wisdom, are quickly receding into obscurity…. In other words we are turning the knowledge upon which we have built out species success into Occult Wisdom once again only available for the initiated. I have long suspected we are heading for an elder revolution. As only those who have lived long enough to have a) been exposed to the knowledge and b) lived long enough to understand it’s application and integrate it into a successful life strategy could now lead anyone. As Eric Weinstein recently said to Twitter et large as he exited “You will miss adults soon enough”.

    1. I agree. The occulting of knowledge is the oldest form of enslavement known in human history across the ages. Education becomes training in thought control and propaganda entrainment. As they try to engineer yet another Tower of Babel moment, which is what my comments below obliquely alludes to, we must remind them of the repetition of their errors. It won’t do any good, but they cannot say they weren’t warned.

    1. Good.
      It’ll end up an act of treason to actually learn and be competent. But people will no longer bother to go to these kinds of colleges since they are becoming “barren land”. Back to secret intellectual societies (GDS and Solari definitely qualify as this) and private *analog* libraries, can include offline thumb drives of data to search easily.
      You should as well check out The Jolly Heretic on youtube. He hacks up arguments of these numpty idiocies.

  12. “The year was 2081, and everybody was finally equal. They weren’t only equal before God and the law. They were equal every which way. Nobody was smarter than anybody else. Nobody was better looking than anybody else. Nobody was stronger or quicker than anybody else. All this equality was due to the 211th, 212th, and 213th Amendments to the Constitution, and to the unceasing vigilance of agents of the United States Handicapper General.”
    ― Kurt Vonnegut Jr., Harrison Bergeron

    1. I suspect the only way for true equality is when everyone is dead. Equality might be code for dead to them.

  13. “Perception is reality”, “it’s how you feel about something that matters”…
    A “woke” translation of the Anabasis could become a much more pleasant tale of a Greek hiking club on a sightseeing trip with a translation not subject to a lot of tedious unwoke “interpretation”.

  14. I was shocked once seeing someone writing in all capital letters something which seemed to be litterature (or a diary) only to learn later that some schools (in the US only?) do not teach handwriting anymore.
    But considering the inflationary use of graphical explanation on any kind of more or less official document (not to speak of icons and “smileys” on computers), it seems to me that we’ve already done great steps forward of replacing latin writing systems with a chaotic ideogram usage.

    I guess, grammar and spelling shall also soon be considered to be some kind of cultural suprematism. Also weren’t whitespace and punctuation introduced in the dark Middle Ages?

    1. Recently I had to re-submit a rental application form because of cursive writing, citing “scribbles” (legible… easy to read). Resubmitted in printed text – approved.

    2. I recently took great pleasure in not only completing the UK Census on paper rather than online, but filling it out in lower-case discursive throughout (as well as leaving a commentary on various questions asked). As a Celt, it is part of my cultural identity to write in discursive rather than the alien Roman letterform!
      At least it will give a real human-being employment as they have to actually read it rather than it be scanned by a bot.

  15. To those social engineers who want to throw a blizzard of experts with equitable degrees at us to validate their lunatic policies, said policies are still as daft as the airheads who wrote them. One can snap one’s finger in the vacuum of their brain case but the sound one hears is still stone silence.

    1. Some of us prefer the old fashion expert–someone who has devoted care, time and attention to the details of the tradition to actually engage the material at a fundamental level–and someone who is never really satisfied with the title of ‘expert’ because they know there is far more to learn than what they already know. We, the ones who walk through the materials as best as we can with a cautious eye and active mind, will generally recognize a complete ninny when we see one. What we see, oh wise masters of blarney, is yet another attempt to create a Tower of Babel moment. You seek to confuse us–but this time, some of us are the wiser! We cannot stop you–but we will expose you. Your reward will be a repeat of Psalm 82. Our reward will be to watch you fall.

      1. Ancient knowledge comes in many forms and some has survived the greatest calamities to date. If ever there was a time for disbursements to be re-routed..

  16. I’ve mentioned this before, about 1974 when I was signing up for my first University classes (after Jr. College) and I wanted to major in Ancient History. Not only was a told such a major no longer existed, when I asked to sign up for Latin Class they said: “Oh we don’t teach Latin Anymore,” and my 18-year-old shocked self reacted with “You don’t teach Latin and you call yourselves a University?”

    That was the University of Southern Mississippi, not exactly some West or East Cost Liberal College…

    1. I attended the Mississippi Gulf Coast Community College-Gulfport campus for one semester in 1997 to obtain an Associate degree at the age of 44. Over the years I had earned college credits at various colleges but never a degree. MGCCC agreed to application of the accumulated credits towards an associate’s degree if I attended full time for one semester. So I did, as a non-traditional student.
      The experience opened my mind to what is referred to as the “dumbing down” of education in America.
      The toughest course was college algebra. I maintained an A up until the final test and ended up with a B+
      All other courses I received and A and received a congratulations letter from the college.
      I considered none of the courses particularly challenging, based on prior college classes dating back to the 70’s when grading curves were a rarity. Every instructor used one at MGCCC, otherwise most students would have probably not had their scholarships renewed or simply dropped out. Revenues.

      1. “Revenues”.
        Exactly. Education has become a business, and more customers charged more money results in greater revenues.

        1. Robert Barricklow

          Administrators literally “gamed” the system;

          [video games were designed, manufactured, and distributed;
          to shift the balance of power - from faculty to administrators.]

          taking over from faculty,
          changing the bottom line,
          from education to marketing dollars.

          Over time…
          Administrators numbers & salaries grew by leaps and bounds;
          while the teaching staffs, went in the opposite direction.

        2. Marco Fredriks

          Yes, where once the mission of education was to transfer knowledge, it now has become a vehicle to create more debt in the system. Let everybody in and have those students raking up huge students loans before they even start the lives. Sad, very sad.

  17. Isn’t it fun to become more “alien” on your own planet? Can you imagine that you can’t talk to the next generation of humans? Maybe just buying a loaf of bread in the bakery will become impossible for the stil sane. What if they can’t decode a picture of bread when you desperately trying to buy one!

    1. Spot on.
      I was having very similar thoughts.
      There will be two distinct (probably several more) types of sub-humans, and just as Joseph has been insisting for years, it all starts with language and the vocabulary

      1. I’m in Northern Europe, and nowadays it usually takes me around 5-15 minutes to get the young( man/) lady at the counter to expedite my order. Even on the phone with “trained” personnel, for example at the pharmacy( read:monopoly Trust). Complete breakdown of communication. Most saddening.
        Thought: if( when) communication breaks down, what then happens to Communion?

    2. Problem solved: your brain-computer interface will automatically order your loaf, which will be delivered autonomously to your pod.

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