Yesterday, you might recall, I blogged again about the financial pressures inducing the current space race, the race to "go out there" and "get stuff", or at least, mine it. In previous blogs and discussions about this phenomenon, I've raised a caution, a caution of a definite high octane speculation character: what if that "stuff" is someone else's property? What if we're inadvertently crossing some "border" in space that we don't know about, or alternatively, have only some vague clues about in old and forgotten texts?  In the course of these speculations I've also advanced the speculation that there are incredible financial pressures to go out there and "get stuff."

But there's another developing pressure, and it's developing for precisely the same reasons, according to this article shared by S.D.:

The Deep Seabed Is China's Next Target

Note that China has made deep sea surface exploration and mining a deliberate policy objective:

In late 2020, a Chinese submersible, the Fendouzhe, descended over 30,000 feet to the bottom of the Marianas Trench, home to the deepest point in the earth’s oceans, known as Challenger Deep. Loaded with so much surveying equipment that the crew added additional buoyancy materials to keep it balanced, the Fendouzhe set a national record for the depth of its dive and broadcast a live feed of its exploits back to China. While the expedition was billed as focusing on the animal life of the Trench, state media noted that the surveying experience would be useful for China’s growing interest in deep-sea mining.

The deep seabed, essentially the very bottom of the ocean’s floor, is a potentially rich source of oil and gas; elements like cobalt, copper, and nickel, as well as of the rare earth elements (REEs) required for many new technologies. Chinese President Xi Jinping has spoken repeatedly of the connection between “utilization of the ocean” and China’s quest for both maritime and overall national power. In 2016, he spoke specifically of the deep sea, saying: “the deep sea contains treasures that remain undiscovered and undeveloped, and in order to obtain these treasures we have to control key technologies in getting into the deep sea, discovering the deep sea, and developing the deep sea.”

Policy has followed rhetoric. In February 2016, China began laying the predicate for exploitation of deep seabed resources with the passage of the PRC Law on Exploration and Development of Resources in Deep Sea Seabed Areas. In the 12th (2011-2015) and 13th (2016-2020) Five Year Plans, China prioritized “promoting commercialization of deep-sea mining, manufacturing of deep-sea equipment and utilization of deep-sea bioresources.” Beijing already leads the world in the number of deep-sea mining contracts undertaken, with more likely to follow given the breadth of its surveying efforts and the level of interest shown by senior Chinese Communist Party officials.

The trouble here is that most people continue to think of those kinds of depths as being prohibitive to human exploration, much less presence. Popular imagination continues to think of a human presence on the deep ocean floors in terms of 1970s technology, in other words, it's impossible. At those depths, typical submarines are simply crushed.

But with developing technology, including those advocating a fundamental re-engineering of humanity itself in order to maintain a permanent presence in deep space, similar things could be argued for deep sea presence, including genetic chimeras of humans and those species of aquatic life that live at those crushing depths. New materials science could open up those crushing depths to a human presence even without the benefit of genetic modifications.

And while we're at it, it needs to be remembered that roughly two thirds of the planet's surface is under water, and that we still know little about those depths, and what's down there. So the financial incentives that I argued are propelling deep space mining, are also propelling the turn to the oceans, not just for mining, but potentially for agriculture are well.

There are, however, "rubs". The first is military: installations on the deep sea floor would the oceanic equivalent of permanent human colonies in satellites and on other planets, particularly the Moon. It's the equivalent of the "high ground of space", only in this instance, it's the high ground of the surface beneath the oceans, with any surface or submarine fleets being easy prey. Emerging deep sea technologies - and the nations which possess them - will completely redefine the notion of territoriality on sovereignty, extending these ideas to regions of the ocean as well.

The second "rub" is related to the first, but even more spectacular and "high octane": what if there already is a "someone" (or their robots) down there in the depths and what if that "someone" already has a claim on those assets? The issue, believe it or not, is a very real one, for anyone familiar with the details of UFO sightings and reports can attest that there are a number of solid reports of USOs, Unidentified Submerged Objects, zipping along underwater at truly remarkable speeds, and in some cases, emerging from the depths into the air and becoming UFOs. In some cases, these reports also clearly indicate some kind of technology is in play.

That possibility in its turn raises one last high octane speculation implication, namely, that the push into deep space is intimately related to the push into the deep sea, as two prongs of one coordinated policy and effort.

See you on the flip side...

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. Joe on July 29, 2021 at 7:34 pm

    Maybe the one percenters behind all this tresspass into quarantined spheres both above and below have gained some concessions from……The alternative is that we’ll all pay a very high price in the long run.
    My motto is “If it ain’t yours,don’t mess with it”I am sure that my friend John Lear will agree with me on this one.

  2. Michael UK on July 29, 2021 at 4:07 am

    North Atlantic Ocean near Iceland also has reports of UFOs / USOs and strange NATA naval military operations and exercises.

    • anakephalaiosis on July 29, 2021 at 4:36 am

      I am an Icelandic UFO-abductee, who has been brainwashed, by aliens, into believing in six million.

      During my highly fictional abduction, I was held captive, in a gass chamber from Hollywood.

      In the end, I managed to escape, from my own brain fog, and now I can count, to six million:

    • Michael UK on July 30, 2021 at 6:55 am

      Sorry for the typo above it should say NATO.
      Here is link to NATO Operation Mainbrace conducted in 1952 in the North Sea, in area between Iceland, Norway, UK and Denmark. Highly credible and reliable eyewitness evidence of USO base under the sea.

  3. Richard on July 29, 2021 at 2:49 am

    One has long been an advocate of sea exploration, harvesting, and aquatic studies as well as better uses of the seas in general since the favorite documentaries of “Jacque Cousteau” and company back when. Was never satisfied with the little financial attention given to that potentially rich prospect or the wiser use of the sea for food supplementation and possible fresh water source via efficient desalination and distillation techniques. It was also the source of interests in Marine Biology sciences.

    Oil and gas, there’s plenty of emphasis on those as are the notations to rare earths. In one’s view, better understanding of the seas, how they contribute toward heat distribution cycles below sea level that majorly effect above sea atmospheric currents, how water is distributed globally, and how they can boost food production and be a means of decontamination of human made toxins are imperatives long overdue.

    This business of same old exploitation tactics toward toxic wastefulness, hegemonic idiocy, and presumptive riches beyond the imaginations of the greediest from “The Spires of Ferenginar,” (if there were such as place) is lunacy a wiser investor is better for avoiding, especially, Party touted. The damages of strip mining and hard rock mining are easily seen on land amongst other material exploits. The seas need reclamation processes toward a more pristine beginning not more dump and run tactics of a reckless Party display like recently in that disputed sea they claim is theirs alone. Raw sewage dumping into fishing waters of other sovereign nations territorial waters. Aren’t they the bold-faced pigs boldly bullying? Rivers still run afoul as they dump into the disputed seas and beyond.

  4. marcos toledo on July 28, 2021 at 8:48 pm

    The idea that deep sea and space exploration are separate is wrong if you can do both you are way ahead because if you want to explore the moons of Jupiter, Saturn you have to have vehicles that can explore those worlds underwater oceans. The Albatross in the novel Master Of The World could fly throw the air and dive and move underwater as well. Does Howard Hughes Global Explorer ring a bell.

  5. Robert Barricklow on July 28, 2021 at 7:25 pm

    To me, there probably is some sort of “property”, and thus some spheres of ownership; either by some “federation”[public group], “corporation[private group], or individual type claim[ship/family].
    But that is subject to stopping other from taking it; either by force, or some “legality”, or simply theft.
    So that precludes some type of organized force, like a military.
    This solar system has had wars in the past, and that may mean someone/or something has a claim by virtue of superior force and/or legality. It could be that the Earth’s moon is some kind of spherical fence, beyond which is subject to outside forces.

    There are the public deep diving records; and then there are the real military diving records[and maybe some unknown secret records].

    I wonder if they’ll have any ITA’s[international investment agreements]?
    Meaning foreign investors are assumed take precedent over parts of most, if not of all contracts. [Since they presume to own it all anyway].

    Probably some deep sea bases?
    [maybe even deep underground, under the deep sea?]

    And then the USOs?
    There are UFO’s; there probably more USOs, as there more seas.
    And a percentage of those maybe the real deal.

    If there are aliens; they’re might negotiate w/the so-called global leaders, like Columbus did, w/the soon the be extinct natives.
    They could come up w/an operating system to share in exploiting the natives together. Transforming them to spec.
    They could share technologies; to bring parity between them.
    The aliens could go first; gifting operating systems, to jab populations.
    [Of course, that would be a dive deep into deception.]

    • Australian Qld on July 28, 2021 at 9:49 pm

      Hi from Qld Australia Robert. Your post re “property ” on July 28 might be the truth-The weirdest stuff is happening so why not as Dr Farrell puts it as high octane speculation-everything we witness now is high octane speculation being morphed into commonplace facts. Farrell is an interesting guy with his physics speculations- What was ridiculed even 10 yrs ago coming accepted scientific speculation. Even X for heaven’s sake is now proposed by eminent Astro boys as 5 x times earth mass on a high elliptical orbit booming again Planet 9. I digress. If it was reported flying sources landed in the backyard of a major national capital I wouldn’t write it off as internet rubbish until I viewed the footage myself. Be it 12000 yr Nova event or some rogue planet. One thing for certain, our human history is filled with catastrophic cycles

      • Robert Barricklow on July 29, 2021 at 12:06 pm

        Hello Australian Old.
        No doubt there is a catastrophic cycle history for humans that goes way back. Indeed, a good question for DR. Farrell would be; how far back on the high-octane twig, do they possible go?

        Throughout history its been mostly property holders or education classes who’ve been tended to support power systems. And that’s a large part of what education is – it’s a form of indoctrination.
        In a sense, you go through a process of education that results in a self-deceived organism who is working to serve interests of a privileged few w/o being necessarily conscious of it all.
        The other thing is these massive industries of persuasion and deception that are inducing a form of ignorance and/or self-deception to listeners, who come to believe that they know the truth, when in fact they are just being manipulated.

        There results a confluence of the observed and imagined. There is a collision of the factual and imagined that creates a reality of sorts. No truth can ever be captured in its entirety. We need the fuzziness of imperfect thinking to function.[Androids Dream of Electric Sheep].

      • Robert Barricklow on July 29, 2021 at 12:09 pm

        Planet X or no planet x?
        That’s another good question for Dr. Farrell.

  6. Randy on July 28, 2021 at 1:01 pm

    Lol keep telling you …the treaty of ??? Is being met/contested/broken ??? & it is not only out there… but down there ? to ????

  7. ragiza on July 28, 2021 at 10:26 am

    Sea exploration makes better sense than exploring distant planets. Deep sea exploration doesn’t have minutes of time lags in communicating with manned or unmanned vehicles, commercial mining and transport is far more feasible, the oceans have largely unknown inputs to the planet’s surface climate, deep sea spreading ridges may constitute heat inputs that are largely unaccounted for in present day climate studies, if a high tech alien civilization is present on earth what better place to have stayed concealed?

  8. Michael UK on July 28, 2021 at 8:42 am

    Here is an excellent article about Solomon Islands UFO underwater base and underground base by Australian – Marius Boirayon who is the son of the World War II central France maquis (resistance) leader, and grew up in Mount Hagen in the Papua New Guinea Highlands. Following a career in the Royal Australian Air Force and as an aircraft/helicopter engineer working in outback Australia, he decided in 1995 to go to the Solomon Islands to live.

    • Richard on July 29, 2021 at 2:52 am

      One suspects that the Atlantic Basin still holds a few secrets yet to surface.

  9. Michael UK on July 28, 2021 at 8:16 am

    Here is link to Ancient Aliens TV episode about the Solomon Islands UFO undersea base.

  10. Michael UK on July 28, 2021 at 7:10 am

    We know from eyewitness reports of a UFO base on Earth – under the sea and also in the mountains in the Solomon Islands in the Western Pacific , near where the sunken warships of the Battle of Guadalcanal lie, discussed by Timothy Good in his book – Unearthly Disclosure.
    Also see these links to other reports of this UFO base.

  11. J. Skuba on July 28, 2021 at 6:11 am

    With robotic gizmos on the sea floor, why not salvage all the sunken ships for iron plate? Who need to tear up the landscape for all the low-grade iron ore any more. But stay away from all the toxic radioactive waste dumped off the coast of East Africa.

  12. J. Skuba on July 28, 2021 at 5:58 am

    I recall reading that mining of Manganese Nodules off the seabed has been going on for a number of years. Been searching for confirmation of this project.

  13. anakephalaiosis on July 28, 2021 at 5:52 am

    All empires need to expand, or face collapse, and spoils and slaves taken, are seen as natural resources, for grabbing.

    The psychology of an empire is basically the gambler, who is obsessed, with getting his hands on resources. A thief!

    There is never enough, because he is driven by fear, that his gambling debt will catch up with him, in the shape of his own shadow.

    Gambler’s greed grows, from his instinctual fear.

  14. DanaThomas on July 28, 2021 at 5:31 am

    I wouldn’t invest a wooden nickel in asteroid mining, but undersea extraction is another matter. But I suspect that “other folk” have long been busy down there and will not take kindly to any competition.

    • Awake on July 28, 2021 at 12:07 pm

      I agree completely, as above so below. My guess is, what they call space is not what we generally think it is and could easily be deep-sea or ocean exploration. Think of all the ancient technology that is at the bottom of the world’s oceans as well as all the mineral wealth. How about all those ancient cities that are fully intact off the coastline of Asia and Central / South America. What about the deepest areas of the oceans around the world that are out of reach to the average person? I’m sure the ancient God’s still claim those cities as their territories and we would be easily considered to be intruders of their realms.

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