PROFESSOR PETER DALE SCOTT ON THE “DEEP STATE”: SOME ...

Normally I tend to shy away from citing or referencing articles here that are lengthy, and academic, but this week I must include such an article in our "final cut" for several reasons, not the least of which is to comment this researcher's astute observations to regular readers of this site who may be unaware of his work. I refer to retired Professor Peter Dale Scott, and his analyses of American power politics in terms of "the deep state," a term Professor Scott borrowed from Turkish analysts of politics in their country, a term they coined to explain why, in spite of lack of popular support, certain policies seemed to be pursued by their government no matter what. I include it here because we see a similar thing occurring in the West, most recently with the Ukrainian situation. As I blogged last Thursday in my News and Views from the Nefarium, the German government seems to be toeing the general American party line in spite of what appears to be overwhelming German opposition to that course.

With that in mind, here is Professor Scott's article in its entirety, and I hope the reader will pay close attention to it, in order for my own comments to make sense:

The Deep State and the Wall Street Overworld

So why have I drawn your attention to the very important work of Professor Scott, and in particular, to this article? After all, notwithstanding the occasional revelation of some odd detail - it was, after all, Professor Scott who discovered and revealed the little known link between Jack Ruby and Richard Nixon's House Unamerican Activities Committee in 1947 - most of what Professor Scott reviews in his article has long been known to other researchers.

I want to draw your attention to what I believe to be the central core or thesis informing his work, and indeed, all such research:

"Like myself, Lofgren suggests an ambiguous symbiosis between two aspects of the American deep state:

'1) the Beltway agencies of the shadow government, like the CIA and NSA, which have been instituted by the public state and now overshadow it, and

'2) the much older power of Wall Street, referring to the powerful banks and law firms located there.'

"In their words,

'It is not too much to say that Wall Street may be the ultimate owner of the Deep State and its strategies, if for no other reason than that it has the money to reward government operatives with a second career that is lucrative beyond the dreams of avarice – certainly beyond the dreams of a salaried government employee.'13

"I shall argue that in the 1950s Wall Street was a dominating complex. It included not just banks and oil firms but also the oil majors whose cartel arrangements were successfully defended against the U.S. Government by the Wall Street law firm Sullivan and Cromwell, home to the Dulles brothers. This larger complex is what I mean by the Wall Street overworld."

In other words, Prof. Scott is suggesting a tripartite structure to the "deep state", consisting of:

  1. The overt instrumentalities of public government, i.e., the Congress, the Presidency, and the judiciary;
  2. The covert agencies of that government, i.e., the CIA, NSA, and all the other intelligence agencies, which in turn are in reality the agencies of
  3. The private financial interest.
In other words, Scott is suggesting - and in my own research I have suggested a very similar thing (See Covert Wars and the Clash of Civilizations) - that these agencies constitute the common surface between the private corporate world and the overt world of "government," and that this, in part, accounts for the increasing non-responsiveness of overt governments to the wishes of the peoples they purport to govern. 
 
But in all such analyses, there is a fundamental flaw, and it is for this reason I have drawn your attention to this article. The problem of all such analyses is that they do little to reverse engineer the policy forming and decision-taking culture of such deep states, and they tend to ignore in particular two significant areas that many people have alleged to be operative within that culture, namely, (1) esotericism or occultism, and (2) apocalyptic forms of religion. Researchers have pointed out the heavy presence of occult symbolisms and connections within both the JFK and 9/11 events, but few have delved into the far more difficult task of analyzing and speculating on why that presence is even there. And as Dr. Scott D. deHart and I pointed out in our little book Yawheh: the Two Faced God, apocalyptic forms of religion were covertly financed and promoted by the same power elite. Again, the question is why?
 
My point in raising these points is not to point out flaws, but rather, to indicate new tasks, because I believe it is clear from the depth and breadth of detail of the research of Professor Scott and others, that we in the alternative field of research must begin a new phase, of gathering and adding the details and data of esotericism and apocalypticism, and to do so for the purposes of reverse engineering the decision-taking and policy formation of that deep state's culture, a task I undertook to a limited degree in Covert Wars and Breakaway Civilizations and Covert Wars and the Clash of Civilizations
 
What might such an undertaking reveal? My intuition, the high octane speculation of the day, is that it will reveal that esoteric doctrines, in so far as there is any world view informing the "deep state", form the core of it, and that this accounts for its elitism and indeed in some cases its barbarity. Such, of course, has long been alleged, but it has seldom been argued to the degree that Mr. Scott has the case for a deep state of interconnected intelligence and finance sectors, with detail, argument, and freedom from sectarian interests driving the analysis. I suspect, too, that it will reveal that apocalyptic forms of religion have been the basic "playbook," and that they have been so for some time. (Indeed, this will form an important theme of the book I am currently attempting to complete). 
 
Why would such an analysis be important? Because in the final analysis, without knowing the culture of one's opponent or overseers, one can never know their mind and possible motivations. Knowing it, however, is an important "force multiplier," and indeed, may reveal their true weakness. 
 
See you on the flip side... 

Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".

15 Comments

  1. John Richardson on March 29, 2014 at 4:09 am

    I read the above article late last night, though not the comments.
    about 30 minutes ago I though I would contribute to the above.
    By now I am frustrated & irritated by the IT.
    Therefore, this will be very brief as i want to Cook my breakfast and go out.

    ‘The Occult’ is what binds and drives and controls those who ‘rule’ the world.
    NOT money and not even power.
    Without an appreciation of this fact (as Dr Farrell explains) it is impossible to understand the world.
    The reality of this situation is also impossible to ‘believe in’ for the vast majority of people; regardless of their intellectual imagination.

    You have to find for sure from direct personal experience(as did I obviously).

    There are good reasons, connected with the nature & reality of the occult; that prevent this discussion developing in the public sphere.

    I have no idea what good this information may have to readers, however it is accurate and true. So there you have it.

    God bless & kind regards.

    John Richardson



  2. Dasavin on March 26, 2014 at 1:12 am

    Esotericism and apocalypticism doctrine, IMO, while they may be discovered to be central to the world view of the elite, do not explain why humanity has developed in such a way as to burden itself with a “deep state” or “breakaway civilization.” Are we so frail or ignorant to be so easily victimized? Today, the presence and methods of the “dominators” are becoming more apparent at a quickening pace. But what awakening must occur for humanity to graduate beyond analyzing and describing how the elite think, how they cold-bloodedly kill and manipulate and accrue ever more obscene wealth and power? Our human family is experiencing a turning point-a shift in human self-awareness that lifts understanding to a new plane. When it matures, focus will no longer be on dark doctrines and secret belief systems the dominators embrace and use to justify their elitism. It is becoming very clear that no one has the answer. All the excellent analyses attempting to unravel the complex web entangling and suffocating us bring clarity but to only a part of the huge mosaic of intrigue. And yet, there is a purpose in our situation. Mankind is deliberately painting himself into a corner by creating a challenge that forces the individual to look for the answers within himself. Elitism, after all, can only arise when people believe in a vertical scale, and assume there is a “high” from which power flows to a “low.” Also required is a willingness to objectify at all costs, to madly pursue a science of reducing the material world and man himself into ever tinier parts to one day triumphantly announce “the God particle.” We have been desperately intent on justifying the conclusion that a human being is only a “bag of electro-chemical reactions” and to explain every human trait, emotion and expression by merely decoding dna. We are racing headlong toward the day when the realization is inescapable that there is no external being “up there” responsible for our existence, or our pains, or our hopes for happiness in the everlasting. Nor is there a plot hatched among the powerful cleverly imposed by them to victimize the masses for their own greed and lust, enslaving us because they can. Our seeming enslavement cannot be easily summed up in the elites’ arrogant assessment: “There are sheep and there are wolves. We are the wolves.” Humanity is forcing a lesson upon itself by its determination to find all great answers and all of its tormentors “out there” – an endeavor that already is in the midst of its own colossal failure. Inevitably, the individual must turn within himself to accept the joy and liberation of knowing he alone is the creator of his entire reality, including his tormentors. Looking out upon his human brothers and sisters, he will see that everyone, including those who cruelly dominate and those who live in harmony, arise from the same human garden. Our very own neighbors, or family members, or even ourselves, can be said to be responsible for the phenomenon of “elites.” No alien culture has invaded and imposed our elites upon us. The very worst and the best of us have arisen from the same human pool. The realization, therefore, will be that our human species has elected to so separate itself from the sustaining unity of existence that we have separated ourselves even from ourselves. There is an inescapable absurdity in classifying human beings as either elite or common. It has become accepted that one’s subjective experience includes a dark, primal portion that must be controlled or else it will burst forth and do terrible things. We have convinced ourselves that we need a divine and/or powerful human agency to rein in our impulses. With separation comes fear. Once a person is afraid, controlling him is easy. The individual has lost trust in the one thing he must believe in if he is to fulfill his highest and best potential – himself. Why? Why did our species turn so far outward that we have surrendered our will and lost touch with the unity and inner voice that is our security and our joy? The answer lies within each of us. It is not an intellectual answer. It is a spiritual one. Prior to this transcending moment in history, we have been trying to understand with the intellect what can only be cognized by the soul. In this time of awakening, we are turning toward the inner stillness, the peace that lives within each of us and sustains our every breath. Our own human behavior has become so painfully obvious to us, we are becoming clear as to what we do not want in our society and our world. This enables us to decide what it is that we do want. We are realizing the limits of objectivity and of “up-down” thinking, of seeking answers and help from government and the powerful. There are no real answers for us there. We are learning how we attract our every experience. We have reduced and labeled until the process becomes pointless. We have ventured so far away from our true identity and convinced ourselves of our worthlessness in order to face the error of completely separating ourselves from everything and everyone. We have hypnotized ourselves with a set of separatist, materialistic and dominator beliefs that fail us now for a great purpose: that we learn and understand that our individual energy, translated through our thoughts, emotions, beliefs and expectations, create our reality. No exceptions. If we feel victimized, it is we who believe in being a victim. When our species reaches the point of greatest despair within the heartless grasp of some genocidal elite, there is no place to turn but within oneself to ask, “How am I creating this?” There, victim and victimizer merge into one. Subjectivity is the only reality. What one believes is true, IS true. If one wishes to know what he believes, he need only observe the world around him. Everyone and everything in his world reflect back to him the contents of his heart and mind. To change his world, he only has to change what he believes. When this is realized, the soul is free.



  3. Solfeggio on March 25, 2014 at 5:55 am

    How many here are aware of Allen’ Dulles’ role in conducting damage control, including a trip to Constantinople, when the infamous protocols document emerged, creating quite a stir in this country? How many here are aware that the US military at the time took the portents of that document very seriously, the New York Times notwithstanding? JFK was assassinated on November 22. What do 11+22 equal? What subjects are still very taboo in this country, even in the alternative truth community? Is there not still an occulting of information, despite the flood of information made available to us in the present age? Why did Jesus tell his apostles to be wise as serpents? Being as intellectually honest as you can, why do you think America entered World War I? Over a century ago, what did many scholars mean when they talked about the “Jewish question”? For Christians out there, if Jesus brought a new testament asserting that the only commandment was a, to love God with all of thy heart mind and soul, and B) to love the neighbor as thyself, why was the Old Testament coupled with the New Testament, to produce a book with contrasting images of the deity? Even the earliest Christian scholars remarked that the Old Testament God could not be reconciled with the newer scriptures that were modeled after Jesus’s teachings. If a culture that is based on a sacred text that sanctions genocide, including of women and children, does that imply that culture following such scriptures will find validation for wicked crimes in their very own theology and culture? Is it true, is David Icke recently said, that we often become that which we fight? If so, could identity politics emerge after battling a supremacist ideology such as popular in the Third Reich such that one actually could come to embody that same ethnocentrism? Or could such an ethnocentrism be more deeply rooted, such as in those very same scriptures mentioned above, wherein a certain people’s culture imprint a notion of “chosenness”, thus creating a schism in humanity? Could such a situation become one of the first beginning’s of the notion of an elite class? If an elite class is posited in antiquity, how would the elite class maintain their solidarity over many diasporas and changing cultures and societies? To use the CIA term, what “sources and methods” would be used to insulate and protect a minority’s power to hoodwink the general populations over oceans of time? Could these very sources and methods be the very same practices we might suggest also fall under the umbrella term of the occult, and those stringent practices of initiation required to separate the wheat from the chafe? While I use the example of Judaism above, the true essence of such an elite need not be that group, but it could be something much more different, indeed a hand that wears many gloves. Yet, through the continuity of what we call these occult symbols and practices, such a group would have a perfect means to maintain continuity over millennia. And yet just as I posit that such a group could very well exist, I also believe that in every epoch there exists a counterpart to such entrenched power, and it is the rivalry between these forces that constitute the true and hidden history of the human race. Shall we have might is right, or Camelot? Only that perennial tradition, hidden in each of our hearts, can dictate the ultimate resolution to this very human dilemma.



  4. Frankie Calcutta on March 24, 2014 at 8:22 pm

    Interesting that some of the ancient Hindu/Vedic astrological texts mention certain planetary alignments which can give an individual a predisposition toward secret societies. While the age of many of these texts are in dispute, some go as far back as the Mahabharata War several thousand years ago. Astrological knowledge itself goes back much farther most likely via an oral tradition. As Dr. Farrell suggests in his latest vidchat, current astrological knowledge is just a remnant of an ancient celestial science far more precise. So how far back do secret societies go? Is it a human proclivity stamped on us by the planets? Legend has it that certain rishi families were in the service of different planets. Maybe this is where secret societies began? In the least, the astrological texts suggest secret societies were a recognized part of mundane life in Vedic and later Hindu culture.

    Could it be possible then that secret societies were behind such apocalyptic events like the Mahabharata War which razed the Indian sub-continent and deposed the Vedic religion and replaced it with a yahweh cult built around Krishna? Moreover, the Mahabharata War succeeded in dismantling the infallibility of the Brahmin caste and paved the way for the ascendancy of the merchant class (the proto-banksters?) I think we have seen this playbook many times before in more recent times. In these cases of wanton destruction and upheaval past and present, I suspect the hand of a secret society in the service of Saturn.



  5. localmc on March 24, 2014 at 7:34 pm

    Peter Dale Scott, Ph.D., is a former Canadian diplomat and emeritus Professor of English at the University of California, Berkeley. Scott is a noted poet, writer, and researcher. He is author of many books, including several about the Kennedy assassination, including The Assassinations: Dallas and Beyond; Deep Politics and the Death of JFK; and The War Conspiracy: JFK, 9/11, and the Deep Politics of War.

    Project Censored 3.1 – JFK 50 – Peter Dale Scott – Deep Politics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0CFpMej3mA



  6. LSM on March 24, 2014 at 5:30 pm

    “The problem of all such analyses is that they do little to reverse engineer the policy forming and decision-taking culture of such deep states, and they tend to ignore in particular two significant areas that many people have alleged to be operative within that culture, namely, (1) esotericism or occultism, and (2) apocalyptic forms of religion”

    since when has the occult (throw in most dogmatic aspects of all religions as well; different variations on the same melody) NOT played an absolutely major role in the world of geopolitics/our everyday lives?-

    as Jordan Maxwell has often pointed out: we are still living to a certain extent in the remnants of a Druidic culture-

    why is Hollywood called Hollywood?- because Druids used hypnotic wands made of holly wood (and Hollywood films aren’t hypnotic?- then throw in TV)-

    then look at orchestra conductors: they wave a wand… and we all know how from an aural perception how hypnotic music can be- so I guess it doesn’t matter whether it’s aural or optical; they can both be hypnotic-

    in my own personal opinion the influence of the occult out there in the world regarding our lives has been waaay underestimated…

    be well all-

    Larry



  7. Judy on March 24, 2014 at 3:25 pm

    excellent ideas. I have been thinking along these lines myself. You are quite right, as usual. But is it really possible? The consequencces of all this are mind boggling But that’s why I’m here- to be mind boggled. Have you seen the N.Y Times article outlining how many scientific projects are being privatized to the Oligarchs?Our apparent government has become irrelevant.



  8. Celtic Death Star on March 24, 2014 at 11:30 am

    Just as an update on ZeroHedge:

    following statement by Tymoshenko, after asked, rhetorically, by her counterparty, “what should we do now with the 8 million Russians that stayed in Ukraine. They are outcasts”… to which she replies: “They must be killed with nuclear weapons.”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-24/ukraine-leader-new-leaked-recording-8-million-russians-ukraine-must-be-killed-nuclea

    they’re just psychos when you scratch beneath the surface!



  9. marcos toledo on March 24, 2014 at 10:47 am

    I just wonder what are these masterminds goal. Anyone with half a brain could do better than this chaos we have had. And they could have done it for less money and time but then these are just Thugs in suits. I bet they would embarrass even the Mafia or they are the Mafia in better clothes. By the way I saw you on Codes and Conspiracies last night.



  10. Robert Barricklow on March 24, 2014 at 10:41 am

    One aspect I enjoy about PDS is his “Deep” analyses, therby leading readers into Deep Thought. I read several of his books including the last that took on the Deep connection of drugs in the Deep State. Of course, what is missing in Most analyses of this nature is the Dark Forces of the “Occult” They are bloody, ritualistic, “ancient”, & violent. I just listened last night to Jim Fetzer interview with Dennis Cimino March 7, 2014 concerening the “Occult” and their hold on power through use of pedophilia, blackmail, and an overall Blood-In/Blood-Out Ritualistic Brotherhood associated with an “alien” presence.
    http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com/
    All the above is prelude to the engineered species within an engineered system. The “ritualism” associated with the Occult, is part of a “key” to “unlocking” mechanisms within our DNA involved with control/both aspects: the group & the individual. Somewhat like using neuromodulation with something akin to “frequencies” within occult magik.
    I’m frequently reminded of Richard Feynman when confronted with these conundrums. Like in the wake of the Challenger disaster he was mistakenly asked to become part of the Rogers Commission and Roger said “Feynman is becoming a real pain”. For it is Feynman who said, “Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts”.
    The more I look into this the more I see the “alien” presence. Now the question remains, are they themselves split into different factions?



    • DanaThomas on March 24, 2014 at 11:12 am

      Thanks, I wasn’t familiar with this podcast



    • jedi on March 24, 2014 at 3:30 pm

      Thanks for the link to the Jim Fetzer….he is right about no soul, or sold there free will.



  11. Lost on March 24, 2014 at 8:44 am

    I see Booz Allen noted, hum, whom did they employ as a computer guy doing NSA contract work.

    With all respect due to Dale Scott, and others who’ve sought out some of these connections; the maintenance of this world view, that of the Dulles brothers, and the Nazis they so supported in the 1930s, and big Anglo oil ultimately is about a maintenance of a only materialist world view, one that only encourages some very destructive forms of spirituality, e.g. Nazism, christian fundamentalism, the love of monies over ideas and what’s produced, etc.

    Even a hard core US might defender, T Bearden, admits that the dialectical materialism of Marx suggests something else, and it’s not that Marx would be the only philosopher to make this point.



  12. Jarrod on March 24, 2014 at 6:37 am

    I’m glad that you make this very important point, because from my perspective, there are usually two distinctive types of research into elitism (two that rarely integrate both elements); those of the mindset that the elite are the technocratic, materialist type, that have a short-sighted view of reality and thus impose their limited views in a predatory manner over an unsuspecting populace, utilizing physical technology and scientism to aid them, and then there are those of the mindset that the top of the power structure is composed of dark occult sorcerers whose ultimate technology is that of chaos magick and the like, as they have ritualistic allied contact with an ultra-terrestrial predatory consciousness. Rarely does the analysis integrate and show the interface between these two types of elite control mechanisms.



  13. DanaThomas on March 24, 2014 at 5:55 am

    An interesting and referenced article on “following the money” throgh the post WWII power structure. Now the question is whether the banks or the espionage agencies are the “owners” or the “owned”, or if some sort of hybrid entity has taken the place of both. But looking back to earlier centuries and the deeds of “Babylon’s Banksters”, it increasingly appears that there is “nothing new under the Sun” except perhaps some of the technology available today. And all these groups, whatever their label, consist of flesh and blood individuals with real, though not always apparent, goals and ambitions…



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