JAPANESE TELEVISION FOOTAGE OF EXPLOSION AT REACTOR
March 12, 2011 / /
I was kindly emailed the following video from Japanese television of the explosion at the reactor in Japan. It's well worth watching closely.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=jMEV-_X5b_8
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It’s a hydrogen explosion. At the start of a hydrogen explosion, there is always a good ‘kick’. It starts at the building, not from above.
Too much resemblance to the BP disaster. In the gulf disaster more than stupidity was at work with the decision to drill on such a site previously determined to be too dangerous, with key engineers repeatedly overruled on safety issues, and obviously too with the deadly “corexit” continuing even today to be sprayed…. In the Japan case: it had to have been known that earthquakes and tsunamis go together! Why store on site such a backlog of spent fuel rods? Originally I doubted, but now I wonder if indeed HAARP played a role, and if one intended victim, – beyond teaching the increasingly independent Japanese “a lesson”, – is as with the gulf, those downwind of the incredibly high amounts of radiation (including the very deadly plutonium) to be released now and perhaps for years or decades hence. This may be a part of the massive population reduction plan, and if so it may only be beginning. So much of this is simply beyond stupid! More than in the BP case though, this is here only an hypothesis.
“…The problem with light water reactors in general is the vicious cycle of needing to vent coolant to relieve pressure and then having less to cool the core, which progressively generates more heat and pressure that then needs to be relieved. If the core heats up enough, the zirconium cladding around the core causes the water to release hydrogen. The hydrogen builds up outside the reactor vessel, eventually causing the exterior walls of the containment building to explode.”
http://www.newsdissector.com/blog/
you don’t need the zirconium alloy to powder or otherwise get weird to release hydrogen.
Nuclear engineering,…… Venting INSIDE building? Really, does this make sense?
Stoichiometry: you need 2:1 Hydrogen to PURE 02 to cause a significant explosion.
6-7 to one H2 to O2 is what level is necessary of PURE compounds to lets say launch the space shuttle.
If steam were intermixed in this venting process, AND was mixed with ambient air, with N2, CO2 etc,
Is it logical that the ideal Stoichiometric ratio was achieved to allow for an explosive event?
Remember the Hindenburg, BURNED not exploded when H2 was ignited in ambient pressure of air.
Current reports today say that the generators for back-up power were swamped by the tsunami, and that they did have battery redundant back-up, but that it could not handle the cooling problem load. Locating the back-up power in easy reach of the ocean in a country known for earthquakes and tsunamis is pretty bad engineering.
The spin on the radiation leaks is also interesting – one report spoke of the helicopter pilots only getting about one month of normal background radiation in each one hour trip – sounds harmless enough put that way. That is, until you do the math – a month (30 days, for the sake of argument) equals 720 hours – so the radiation was 720 times the normal background radiation, which sounds a whole lot worse. I was told another reporter compared the radiation in the immediate vicinity of the stricken reactor to “one CAT scan.” One CAT scan (or CT scan) equals about 250 chest x-rays. Sounds like a bunch to me, and that was without any time-exposure reference – was that one CT scan per hour of exposure? Day? Week? Minute?
The political fallout (no pun intended) continues to be interesting as well. Interesting that Germany is suddenly going to power down all their nuclear plants for 30 days – are they expecting another attack? Reprisals? Germany doesn’t have that many quakes……
Also, many of the Japanese plants are 40 years or so old, and had originally been planned to be decommissioned years ago – wonder if the insurance will cover any part of the rebuild? Now the taxpayers will have to cover the cost of the mess and the rebuild, due to it being a “natural disaster” and national emergency…
Another political/economic factor is Japan’s recent refusal to knuckle under to the IMF and World Bank. Let’s see, the last country to challenge the world banking cartel was…..Iceland! Volcanoes and economic ruin. Hmmm, do we see a pattern emerging here?
Will Japan become another Haiti?
Here is Yet Another “Explanation” for the source of the Hydrogen Liberation…..
Excerpt:
“Large amounts of hydrogen were formed when the water injection procedure temporarily ran into trouble and they may have filled the upper part of a building housing the No. 3 reactor, Edano said at a news conference.”
http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/03/77392.html
REALLY?, H2 Liberation from Water Injection? Really……?
See:
http://jol.liljenzin.se/KAPITEL/CH07NY3.PDF
Or is it Radiolysis? Without a core melt down?Hmmm….
When you heat water via the Boiler type plant do you Liberate H2? or do you make STEAM……. Electrolysis or Radiolysis makes H2……..
Again, the question is, IF there was NO core Breach to allow RADIOLYSIS, and electricity is not generating the H2, What is the SOURCE OF THE ENERGY TO LIBERATE H2?
Look at the Rough Schematic……Where is the Hydrogen in this type system?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_water_reactor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cladding_(nuclear_fuel)
What you get when things go critical…. see especially Observed Effects……
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_excursion
Here is another fine example of DISINFORMATION regarding Hydrogen and the reactors.
Japan Says Second Blast Possible at Plant; Radiation Falls
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-03-13/japan-says-second-blast-possible-at-plant-radiation-falls.html
Excerpt:
“Radiation rose yesterday after a hydrogen leak caused a blast that destroyed the walls of the No. 1 reactor. Four workers were injured in the explosion, while no damage was reported to the container holding the reactor’s radioactive core, according to Tokyo Electric.”
Yes, elemental Hydrogen is obviously a good thing to keep around a Fission Reactor….. So what is “leaking” hydrogen?
Here is the very straight-forward and perfectly plausible explanation of what is behind the explosions at these stricken plants:
“Officials vented steam from the reactor to reduce pressure, and were aware that there was an explosion risk because the steam contained hydrogen, said Shinji Kinjo, spokesman for the government’s Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency. The explosion occurred when hydrogen reacted with oxygen outside the reactor.”
Again, I’m not even going to get into a HAARP discussion without facts and some recognition of the available facts about the high probability of a large quake in this part of the world, at this particular time. And as James pointed out, this is not the correct thread.
The conspiracy here, the real thing everyone should be afraid of, is that officials are clearly playing down the health risks here to avoid panic. The chances of a Chernobyl event seem to be rising by the hour.
Some strands of information are now leaking out, such as this one, from the NYT:
“The Pentagon was expected to announce that the aircraft carrier Ronald Reagan, which is sailing in the Pacific, passed through a radioactive cloud from stricken nuclear reactors in Japan, causing crew members on deck to receive a month’s worth of radiation in about an hour, government officials said Sunday.”
Christine, thank you for your finding a great piece of DISINFORMATION.
YES CNN…. Consider the source…….
Zircaloy Thermal Conductivity is Key here folks……
Remember the melting temperature, Now think, What temperature is Hydrogen stable? What temp does it burn?
What temp does Zircaloy Melt? or BURN? OR MORE IMPORTANTLY HOW DO YOU GET IT TO DISASSOCIATE AT AMBIENT CONDITIONS?
http://www.insc.anl.gov/matprop/zircaloy/zirck.pdf
Zircaloy has an AFFINITY FOR HYDROGEN AND BECOMES BRITTLE, IT DOES NOT I REPEAT LIBERATE H2. O2 and other surface treatments passivates it.
IF IT FAILS IT LIBERATES HOT PARTICLES i.e. RADIATION!!!! NOT H2.
YOU NEED A FUEL TO BURN TO CAUSE EXPLOSION.
CNN’s source was the Japanese nuclear agency whatever it is called, whichever of two it was.
I DO NOT DO MATH. beyond simple arithmetic. I refuse to even try. so I cannot comment on your article there. However,
here is the wikipedia article on the matter. draw your own conclusions. Note the sources cited at the end of the
article are respectable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zircaloy
^ a b Standard Comp. Library (Sect. M8)
^ [1][dead link]
^ http://legal.european-patent-office.org/dg3/pdf/t000318eu1.pdf
If one accepts that this is simple nuclear accident (and I don’t), there are still many unanswered questions. Given the Japanese dedication to earthquake proofing and general safety, it is interesting that there were either not redundant systems in place (highly unlikely), or that all the redundant safety systems failed simultaneously or in a cascade. It was announced that the backup power generator for the cooling systems failed. Given the extremely critical nature of the cooling system, I find only one level of safety redundancy far from sufficient, especially post-Chernobyl and Three Mile Island. The local landline phone switch in our town has two levels of emergency power redundancy (mandated by law). You’d think something as dangerous as a reactor would have more.
Granted, the core and many other elements of a reactor are extremely dangerous when out of control. I suppose the inward imploding wall COULD be caused by a sudden explosion upward which created an inward shockwave at the base of the building s material was blown upward, but it doesn’t look that way on the video. The shockwave cloud (or ring) rises well after the wall caves in. It is still non-intuitive that the wall would implode rather than explode. I suppose that something attached to that wall which was torn toward the inside could pull it down as well. Without knowing details of the building and systems, we can only speculate.
Also, the earthquake makes a good cover for sabotage, especially using weapons which most people don’t even believe exist. And given that Bearden has described how an EM weapon incident in the USSR actually caused Chernobyl, that does give one pause. One effect of scalar EM weapons is that they can cause spontaneous fission of even non-weapons grade fissionable materials.
Any word on the other reactors which were also reported to be in trouble?
Absent the geopolitical tensions present, I would find a simple nuclear accident more believable. Under the circumstances, it just all seems too convenient. I think we are seeing more shots fired in the secret Elite Wars. The big question to consider when anything like this happens is cui bono – who benefits?
It’s like Wellstone’s death. Absent the fact that he was only two weeks away from being re-elected and was the only person who had the power (and intention) to block the desired war in the Middle East, I would be more willing to accept his death as an accident and not assassination. It sure was convenient for his opponents…
Not a technical observation, but can anyone come up with a good reason to place nuclear power plants near the ocean, in a country subject to a lot of geologic activity, on the Ring of Fire, which suggests tsunami if you are on the coast line? Who suggested, vetted, and OK’d these installations? Is there a perfectly rational reason for their placements?
national pride, efforts to deal with their oil problem, and hard sell from our nuclear corporate interests.
I understand the need for water- but not placing the plants near the ocean.
On the other hand, given something Mr. Farrell said about Japanese/Chinese relationships:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6187491.stm
Another point, vis-a-vis Bearden, is that the same HD mechanics that can cause marginally fissile material to explode can also neutralize potent extant fissile material. One of Bearden’s claims is that all of the nuclear weapons on Earth can be dudded in a couple of seconds (minutes?) with scalar technology. I watched a demonstration of this on -of all places- Good Morning America in 1997. A group brought in some medical nuclear waste with a particle counter and showed that material with a half-life of tens of thousands of years could be neutralized in a couple of minutes. This technology needs to be used to neutralize the fallout from the power plants.
There a nother possibility could this simplly be that the nuclear power industry is a cover for making weapens grade material which why there has been all this screeching about Iran nuclear program.
Questions:
What does it takes to make fissile material go critical?
What happened here is not commensurate with that.
If this is a means to cover up the production of said materials, the the question still remains, HOW DID THIS HARDENED STRUCTURE DISINTEGRATE?
WHAT IS THE SOURCE OF THE ENERGY NEEDED TO DO SO?
so called breeder reactors will do that. plutonium reactors, through some roundabout procedure, end
up with more plutonium. I think they mix uranium with plutonium its been 30 years since I first read
up about this stuff. I have been anti nuclear most of the history of this stuff.
Interesting thing. I was a temporary secretary with an agency, they sent me to a company who
worked on analyzing nuclear plant plans for problems. Or so the gal said when I grumbled about
the nuclear scene. I noticed something on one of them.
EVERYTHING, all systems, when you traced them through the plan (and this was an operating
plant somewhere), ran through a single point, and if that one thing failed, oops.
JAY,
The WHOLE ISSUE is WHAT MODUS COULD powder the zirconium, atomize/disintegrate, etc.
ZIRCALOY is not in powdered form. That is my point. There is no weakening of any case. Alloys, elements etc have well known properties…..
AT AMBIENT or Normalized CONDITIONS or states that are encountered. CHANGE those “conditions” the behavior changes dramatically.
This issue is WHAT FORCES the matter is being subject to. ENERGY IS REQUIRED to do what is been observed. Zirconium even in powdered form needs a “spark” to burn.
Think of what is HEAT? How do you get something hot? What is the energy state of the matter? How is it increased? Can you lower the threshold to impart an effect not seen at ambient conditions? Yes.
You are seeing a VERY dramatic level of ENERGY that is not coming from the core. Any ideas “ringing” about?
Where did it come from?
On CNN this morning (March 13), Candy Crowley did an interview with the Japan ambassador to the U.S. — who didn’t really say much but his face was not very reassuring at all. Then Candy turned to interview a young nuclear expert, who was very careful with his words and I appreciated his sense of balance in his comments. But he did express surprise that seawater had been used to cool down Reactor #3. He said Reactor #3 did not appear to be suffering any catastrophe; that only Reactor #1 needed the seawater. And he did remind us that once seawater is brought in, that reactor is toast and can never be used again.
Do you think that will get posted online? I can’t seem to find that interview yet and I missed the initial reporting of that.
Hell I really want to get a few things straight here — I come here because of joseph’s scientific approach to alternative research. Quite frankly I’ve had about enough of this. It’s time for the haarp crowd to put up or shut up. Having lived in japan for several years I can tell u categorically that they have been expecting a huge quake near Tokyo for several years — these things are cyclical and drills have been ramped up in recent years because the big one was expected again at some point. Secondly sea water has been pumped into these reactors as a desperation measure to cool them down — the reactor at Fukushima was due to be shut down in a few weeks anyway so they don’t care if it’s inoperable ever again. Thirdly, with so many people dead and injured do you think it’s acceptable to engage in idle speculation about haarp and some kind of deliberate attack? It just seems really bad at this time. Where is the evidence? The evidence that is clear is that japan sits right on top of some of the most active fault lines in the world, the second fact is a big quake has been expected, thirdly — some prominent alternative scientists have been warning of increased seismic activity due to tidal forces — an approaching moon perigree round about march 20 and because of the particular alignment of Jupiter and Saturn at the present time. So come on, this harp stuff has to stop right now!!! With such a public disaster taking place any scientist who knows anything about this within or outside japan would have said something about harp by now if there was even the slightest shred of evidence. I’m sorry, on this occasion I think all this harp stuff is so out of line.
An assumption that HAARP is the causal force here has not been stated or established. Attempts to understand the etiology of any catastrophic event is a necessary and needed thing. There are two events here. Seismic, which this post is NOT addressing. The second is the destruction of an edifice that is a hardened construction due to the obvious nature of what goes on in it. Speculation, inquiry or any form of deliberation to understand what has happened does not detract the horror at all, nor eliminate the positive desire to wish only for the best outcome, and more clearly so, it is a means to ensure what is the causal agent is understood.
Scientific research wether it is alternative in its focus or not is predicated on questioning. If that is what brought you here, that is what is supposed to happen. The cessation of asking questions is the antithesis of said research. So why the defensive posture if that is what intrigues you?
I’m just reading through these posts and apropos joseph’s comments recently about some kind of sickness infecting alternative research in recent months/years — this discussion about HAARP tops the agenda in my opinion. agreed I’m in the wrong thread so won’t continue but there are plenty of nuclear scientists out there right now explaining how this was probably a hydrogen explosion. Don’t get me wrong, I’m here because I have an open mind, I just take issue with this HAARP clatter every time an earthquake goes off — and the facts about the probability of a large quake in this particular part of the world are there and have been there for an awful long time. What I’m saying is in this particular context, in my opinion, if people are going to bandy about HAARP and deliberate inducement I want to see facts, footnotes, and logical explanation in spades. Hopefully we may get that from dr Farrell at a more propitious moment, as he puts it. Regards….
May I suggest research into the phenomenon of Resonance. It has many applications. It is an amazing phenomenon.
The ire with thinking of exogenous sources to explain an event is understandable when you see the obvious underlying pre-condition of what Japan is situated upon. That being said, one still needs to explore the root cause, if at all possible. Again this thread is respecting the disintegration of a HARDENED EDIFICE.
You would still need to ask, WHAT VOLUME AND EXACT STOICHIOMETRIC ratio of Hydrogen to O2 would be necessary to accomplish this PHENOMENAL destruction of the plant. Experts on TV or otherwise, are there for a reason. To ALLAY the masses concerns. How do you create Hydrogen Gas? What liberates that? Is this an electrolysis plant? No. Again SEEK THE ROOT CAUSE. SEEK THE MODUS. NEVER be satisfied with talking heads.
I agree the footage looks odd–roof acceleration and all.
However, zirconium is highly explosive and that’s the fuel rods tubing material. Evidently zirconium is used for these tubes because
it does not impede neutrons. So besides the reported hydrogen gas there was another explosive present.
Zirconium ] In powder form, zirconium is highly flammable, but the solid form is far less prone to ignition. Zirconium is highly resistant to corrosion by alkalies, acids, salt water, and other agents.
Zirconium’s melting point is at 1855°C (3371°F), and its boiling point 4371°C (7900°F).
Zirconiums Highly explosive nature? Only when alloyed with other metals to make primers……. Not in this form.
Hydrogen explosive nature is a ratio of O2 to H2 in the correct amounts. Otherwise you have Hindenburg flames.
Interesting to see what I read elsewhere contradicted–I’m not saying you’re wrong.
However, do you have experience handling zirconium, have you for example worked prepping it for nuclear reactor fuel rod use?
I assume when zirconium is used in old style single use flash bulbs, that’s an explosive compound of zirconium and something else doing the flashing; which raises the
question could that something else be available in a nuclear reactor for the zirconium to react with?
It is usually frowned upon to fall prey to “appeal to authority.” No Authority is needed, Just Chemistry
Zircaloy used in rods are not Explosive.
Titanium, for instance is very stable, unless it is exposed to hyperbaric 02 or powder it. Look at what Thermite is.
It is not easy to burn a beer can, yet powder it and add a little rust and ignite with Mg and Volia, you have 6000 degrees.
Zircaloy is not in powder form.
Can you be sure that nothing powderized the zirconium in the reactor?
I suspect not, I think saying something like “just chemistry” weakens your case in this situation, unless you have a good bit of experience doing fuel rod work. Basic chemistry may not be the only thing at work …there are other stresses.
CNN News just said, that the zircaloy, once the coolant was too low, overheated, producing a reaction that released the hydrogen
gas which in turn exploded.
Just an observation. If you look at the closeup frame by frame you will note the building is gone before you see the blast. The walls appear to fly inward first, then out. This looks like an IMPLOSION rather than an explosion, in my opinion.
Here’s the Stratfor intelligence report, the free brief thing I get (can’t afford the big subscription
and I’m not sure I need that much in depth information and analysis anyway).
Japanese Government Confirms Meltdown
March 12, 2011 | 2148 GMT
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The Japanese Disaster: Full Coverage
Japan’s Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA) said March 12 that the explosion
at the Fukushima Daiichi No. 1 nuclear plant could only have been caused by a meltdown
of the reactor core, Japanese daily Nikkei reported. This statement seemed somewhat at
odds with Japanese Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano’s comments earlier March 12,
in which he said “the walls of the building containing the reactor were destroyed, meaning
that the metal container encasing the reactor did not explode.”
NISA’s statement is significant because it is the government agency that reports to the
Agency for Natural Resources and Energy within the Ministry of Economy, Trade and
Industry. NISA works in conjunction with the Atomic Energy Commission. Its role is to
provide oversight to the industry and is responsible for signing off construction of new
plants, among other things. It has been criticized for approving nuclear plants on geological
fault lines and for an alleged conflict of interest in regulating the nuclear sector. It was NISA
that issued the order for the opening of the valve to release pressure — and thus allegedly
some radiation — from the Fukushima power plant.
NISA has also overseen the entire government response to the nuclear reactor problems
following the Tohoku earthquake and tsunami. It is difficult to determine at this point whether
the NISA statement is accurate, as the Nikkei report has not been corroborated by others. It
is also not clear from the context whether NISA is stating the conclusions of an official
assessment or simply making a statement. However, the Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO),
the operator of the Fukushima nuclear plant, also said that although it had relieved pressure,
nevertheless some nuclear fuel had melted and further action was necessary to contain the
pressure.
If this report is accurate, it would not be the first time statements by NISA and Edano have
diverged. When Edano earlier claimed that radiation levels had fallen at the site after the
depressurization efforts, NISA claimed they had risen due to the release of radioactive vapors.
Well,
The Disbursal of the Horror of Nuclear Fallout cloud will follow if this is true concerning a core meltdown…..
Time will tell.
I suppose the words of Dr. Judy Wood re the twin towers collapse are rather pertinent here (to parpahrase): mute the commentary and watch the evidence unfold, what story does the video tell us that the commentary of the msm talking heads and “experts” does not. I’m no expert in the dynamics of explosions but I do get the impression that something does not pass the smell test….
Some questions to ask are:
1. What is necessary to create a blast this large in a Plant such as this….. without a core failure.
3. What is the nature and origin of the wave that is clearly delineated in columnated form with the transient reflection or rarefaction of moisture/atomized material?
4. Is this type of explosion a logical event even if there was a coolant failure if one considers the nature of steam under pressure and the effect of spontaneous “venting?”
In other words, what happens if a superheated steam line breaks, explosion followed by bellowing or a JET of steam? If many pipes break, pressure is equalized more rapidly etc……
5. What amount of ENERGY is required to raise the volume of Water necessary to produce this level of destruction, and can a core that has NOT gone Supercritical do this? Calculate if data exists the water volume and energy necessary to create a WATER vapor cloud the size shown…. Is this consistent with what is present?
6. Is there any other “materials” that can explode in such a plant? Or are we seeing Resonantly disintegrated materials such as Concrete and Steel on a large scale?
here is some youtube footage without the screen overlays:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHfR_wybvw0&feature=related
I wonder where our new secret spaceplane was right about then…….
I wonder if it carries any HAARP related devices capable of being used from space…..
I science fiction, beam weapons are always visible, but in reality you wouldn’t want every weapon to leave a visible indicator of its presence or location. Sometimes, you would want them visible for purposes of terror, but mostly you would want them invisible. I wonder if there is any footage of the reactor event outside the visible spectrum?
The other thing is that the building seems to be hit from the outside from almost the same direction as the camera. A wall collapses inward just a fraction of a second before the explosion. That doesn’t seem very consistent with an internal explosion……….
Sure would be nice to have decent video of the event……
On looking closer frame by frame, there does seem to be a dark object which could be the top of a pressure vessel just barely visible above the main cloud of smoke for a brief bit of time after the shockwave cloud rises up. The shockwave could have been a ring shape from around the edges of the top, released as it blew off.
The shockwave rising right at the beginning of the explosion looks very strange – it looks like it is contained in a narrow column, not expanding outward in a sphere as one would expect. Also, one would not expect that kind of shockwave from a containment vessel, it looks more like a shaped charge or the kind of condensation cloud one gets around the wings of a supersonic jet.
Of course, I am no explosives expert nor do I know what kind of vessel blew up, so those may be perfectly normal characteristics. The smoke and debris didn’t seem to match the pattern of the shockwave, though, and I couldn’t see any debris being pushed up by the shockwave, which seems odd as well.
That what you mean, or did I miss something?
The ramifications of this, is huge. if what is seen is what it appears to be, endorses and may magnify your geopolitical analysis of the situation.
The fruits of your research has perhaps been visualized in seconds 25-26.
Wow, big, big. wow!