Yesterday I blogged about the proverbial "they" who appeared to be looking for "stuff" in the Great Pyramid of Giza. Well, now we move half a world away to the Valley of Mexico and Teotihuacan:

Archeologists find 120m Tunnel Below Teotihuacan

What interests me here once again is the simultaneous bow both to the research efforts of those outside the normal archaeological community and to the conventional "everything-is-religion" paradigm of modern archaeology. The article notes first that Maxican archaeologist Sergio Gomex Chavez  is at least aware of the view that Teotihuacan "was built as a replica of how they saw the cosmos, the universe," a begrudging bow to the work of American engineer Harrelson who documented the mathematical and astronomical alignments of the site in detail (q.v. my and Scott D de Hart's recent book The Grid of the Gods). But then comes the bow to the "everything-is-religion" view of archaeology: "we imagine," he is quoted as saying, "the tunnel to be a recreation of the underworld."

Could the tunnels indeed lead to funeral chambers for dead Meso-American kinds? Sure. But that should not immediately determine their original or even intended purpose. The total purpose of the site must be gained from an engineering study, in short, from a Christopher Dunn-like approach to the actual structures, to determine if they have machine-like properties.

Believe it or not, this leads us to the subject of their religion, if one wants to call it that. As we point out in Grid of the Gods, the properties of some aspects of Teotihuacan - mica layers in some buildings - strongly suggest purposes other than mere ceremonial ones. But as we also point out, the ancient view of religion - of a universal cosmic differentiation - is also a scientific one: it is difficult to distinguish where one leaves off and the other begins.

The consequence of this view is that perhaps modern archaeology is too swift to read our own modern "Cartesian" fragmentation of "religion" versus "science" back into the ancients' mind and the structures they left. We are too willing to dismiss that ancient religion as mere superstition, when in fact, as we argue in Grid of the Gods, it may be rather a legacy of something very sophisticated, and more ancient than the civilizations building the structures.

All this will put whatever discoveries as may be made in the funeral chambers into the "very interesting" category, whether they be the remains of some long-forgotten kings, or, as I suspect may be the case, chambers empty of corpses or mummies altogether.



Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. Enlil's a Dog on May 11, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    Here’s an interesting snippet posted by rt.com today..Apparantly there is a new spin on the Mayan Calendar – no Apocalypse lol..


  2. Sue Evans on November 6, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    Maybe these structures were built along the lines of the complex 1 hr from La Paz in Bolivia, called Tiwanaku. It is vast and has precision cut tunnels and a port nearby which used to connect to Lake Titicaca. I have been there, and meditated on it, getting images of green smoky tunnels and reptilians. There are even alien stone heads incorporated in the walls, and legend has it that it was built by aliens and giants in one day.
    Erich von Daniken has been there many times, and reckons it was used to refine gold.

  3. Richard C. Hoagland on June 12, 2011 at 3:53 pm


    I believe you’re referring to “Hugh Harleston’s” work at Teotihuacan, in the mid-1970’s ….

    The same “American engineer” I discussed at length, over a year ago, in connection with our pioneering “torsion field measurements” — carried out at Teotihuacan during the making of our “2012” Special on SyFY, which aired in late 2010.

    Harleston’s exacting “tetrahedral” metrology measurements of Teotihuacan, as well as his discovery of “19.5 degrees” directly incorporated into the fourth levels of BOTH “Sun” and “Moon” pyramids, only adds additional confirmation to your own “torsion engineering” suspicions about this amazing archaeological site; when we were there, we also attempted to get INTO these new tunnels as they were being opened … to carry out further torsion measurements directly UNDER the “Sun” pyramid … but were denied access.

    Hopefully, when we go back …. 🙂

  4. Tartarus on June 11, 2011 at 4:23 pm

    If the structures and tunnels of Teotihuacan have machine-like properties, then one wonders as to what their capabilities were and what purposes they were used for.

  5. Ted Danger on June 11, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    Hey Joe,

    Who is this engineer Harrelson you mention??? Google just comes up with a woody….


    • Robynne on June 13, 2011 at 2:25 pm

      Try spelling the name correctly. You might get better results.

  6. Craig on June 11, 2011 at 10:57 am

    A good friend came back from Palenque Archaeological ruins
    near Palenque, Chiapas, Mexico. He is fluent in the language and ask for a special tour for he and his wife. He was taken underground to connecting tunnels below the ruins. He said he noticed, on the walls, markings that appeared to be Chinese and some he seemed to think were Egyptian, perhaps Phoenician. He pointed it out to the guide. He said the guide told him that many people have visited this land in those times and that they, the locals, don’t want to tell the archaeologists for fear they will make a mess of it all.
    Have you heard of anything of that nature in Mexico?

  7. Robert Totten on June 11, 2011 at 8:03 am

    Any opinion that starts out with he terms primitive, uneducated, dumb, savage, ignorant, or religious cult is doomed to begin with. Even if you want to go back to the “Cavemen” you have to consider that they were smart enough to survive in a very hostile world and successful enough to become hunter-gatherers and then farmers, village and city peoples. Time and time again we find sophistication in their lives that rival some of our own, and some that exceed even what we can or will do today. The “Temples,Monuments, Buildings, Machines” , whatever you want to call them, all had a very serious purpose for these peoples. Whatever that purpose was, it was strong enough to invest a whole civilizations energy into for an extended period of time. Studying these monuments with an open mind will give a better result in the long run.

  8. LSM on June 11, 2011 at 7:46 am

    I agree with Gregory- yet another wonderful posting from you- many thanks- greatly appreciated 🙂

    Larry in Germany

  9. Gregory on June 11, 2011 at 5:48 am

    Great stuff!

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