Joseph makes several announcements, and comments on Google...and DARPA

DARPA’s Director Quits to Take Executive Slot at Google

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. HAL838 on March 21, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    Woh !
    By all means, let’s go destroy Mars.
    The work here is done !

  2. terrylee3000 on March 20, 2012 at 10:15 pm

    Thank you for your clarity. You seem to have grabbed a lightbulb in the last little while. Nice to see. Keep going with it. A different tone. Much more controlled and informed. I guess a bit of a summation of all that you have been absorbing. Totally informing me in a nice way. Thanks again. Acupuncture to the brain. Maybe your sinuses have cleared up a bit and the fuzzyness has subsided for a while. Write now. The DARPA stuff is big and bold. Maybe don’t concentrate so much on what they do, as if we know, but what you expect they will do with the history of them you have in hand. I know very little of that organization but find the direction you are going truly captivating. Another book in the making.

  3. Kathy on March 20, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    About your video series Playing “Darpa” — awesome!
    A big thank you from one who loves to listen.

  4. Shari ^i^ on March 17, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    Well, this may or may not be off topic, but just in case you are not already aware of it….Regina Dugan’s name has already come up with regard to the “Mars” (secret government) project, as reported by Alfred Labremont Webre for the last several months at least at and his Exopolitics Group/Facebook page.

    According to two whistleblowers (Andrew D. Basiago and William Stillings), both Barack Obama (then Barry Soetoro) and Regina Dugan were members of an elite class held in the Mt. Shasta area (when Obama was about 19years old, give or take) that prepared them for the “jump room” to Mars. In other words, BOTH have been in black projects since their teens and have been to Mars!

    If you take this as true, it is very interesting that Obama appointed Dugan to the DARPA spot in the first place, and that she now is interfacing that knowledge with the Google connection.

    Just thought I’d mention it…

    Shari in SF ^i^

  5. MattB on March 17, 2012 at 4:06 am

    If I was working for DAARPA (a.k.a Google), I would have been paying close attention to how the Kony 2012 ‘documentary’ went viral, who watched it, why they watched and what ‘moral’ or ‘immoral’ concepts were the greatest stimulating factors.

  6. James on March 17, 2012 at 1:31 am

    Hey how is that cold doing? Out side of the box remedy two 5-6 inch silver wires .9999% pure silver google it tools for Two radio shack jumpers 1-3, 9v batteries. 1 glass of distilled water. hook the to wires to the battery and put the silver wires into the glass of h2o wait about 5 minutes stir with a plastic spoon. And drink it down save a few drops for your nose with a dropper and your ears. I am guessing you can kiss your cold good bye in short order in a matter of a few hours if not repeat. as often as it takes two or three times or just make it a little stronger.

    You could do the same thing with Gold I am told (Maybe this is the Anunaki method) but why waste a valuable precious metal. Not only that but you can use this home made recipe to purify drinking water in an emergency as well like from a lake or stream. Just let it set for a little longer before drinking it.

    Ever wonder what people did before antibiotic’s well this is one of them. And it works very quick and very effective for killing over 650 viruses bacteria and other bugs or parasites. It is fairly cheap to and with two wires you may make several hundred gallons if need be I suppose. I usually only use it as I need it. If i feel a cold or flu coming on and it is gone usually in a few hours.

    If you want to make a larger batch make sure you store it in a brown glass bottle like for prune juice. A guy named Dr. Robert or Bob Beck came up with the idea he is a proponent of electro medicine as a cure for many ailments including aids. Not the same guy as The Body Electric, Strange they both have similar names though both have interesting electro thearapy’s as well. You can google them both as well interesting guys and out of the box type thinkers or expeirementors.

  7. Kathy on March 16, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    So glad you’re going to make more videos (talks). Nothing better than listening to you and GeorgeAnn Hughes.

  8. Owl on March 15, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    If we propose to contemplate how DARPA may “think outside the box,” then should we assume that, having already done some free-form thinking here that is probably being Googled as we type, said “thinking” is no longer quite out of the box any more, and of no use to those who might wish to use it, if such avenues need to be kept a bit under the rug?

    (Rather hoping this wouldn’t become an upaid asset to such entities if “out of the box” = already where others can read about it)

  9. SSNaga on March 15, 2012 at 11:35 am

    KNOW THY SELF. “We, and we alone, are responsible for the conditions of the world today, physically as well as morally.” … The First Law of Alchemy: “Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain anything, something of equal value must be given up (lost).” ~ “Only when it takes this new energy, whatever was previously being expressed by it will have to find more energy – take it away from some other expression or go to another plane/level – to make its own new manifestation. /’like robbing Peter to pay Paul.’/ It can’t be any other way. All these changes may appear to us as death and disintegration.” … The Elites & Co. are applyong Creational Law with Advanced Awareness compared to the herds of humanity. Everything eats/consumes everything else: without mercy.

    • paul degagne on March 17, 2012 at 2:41 am


      You starting to make sense to me. I must be going crazy, ha, ha!

      A.) Yeah, this Know Thyself is a good ‘piece” of advice that still holds water.

      B.) About Giving — your right on the money!


      What do people generally mean when they say A? I like the epistemological questioning way === One, Can we even KNOW anything? Two, And if so HOW do we know something?

      Don;t be too quick on the draw answering A?

      Point B. — I think there are too many ANAL RETENTIVES in the world. People give because they have an EXCESS of life’s energies. Every time the cup is empty it get’s filled. These anal – I – ists think they can cheat by hoarding and avoiding the empty-cup syndrone when in fact they are just prolonging it.

      Better empty than full of shit!

      Help — the World is so FULLed Up there no more room to move!


      • SSNaga on March 17, 2012 at 5:23 am

        100% Sure. CAll Creation-Systems are 100% PREDATORIAL. it can’t Be or Work any other way. Creations (Universes, 4-Fold Sets) are EnClosed Systems… just like your Flesh (epidermis). You are a mico Holo reflection-projection pf the Maco Universe… All Parts of the WHole are Contained in The small; nonlocality in Action & Effect. This is the same as: “Spirals within Spirals.” Everything is Spiralic, even Linear eXpressions. EXtensions reveal Causal Presence of Being-&-Presence (InSeperAble). These Dual Spirals are the Twin Sister-Brother “Lovers”(&/Enemies), OffSPRING Of The Matriarch-Patriarch Archetype Principles (PreEXistent). E-X-Press,Ion is Opposing- Of (Opposition). Nothing/All can EVER Be WHole in Any Creationall System – This is The Law of “99/1” (=100, =WHole). … (no spacing on mobile acess, unfortunately.) … NeXt, “A.” A is EXQUISITELY Difficult to Convey, for It Carries The Hidden Inclusive in Its “Meaning.” Thus, “the Mystery” of WHAT “IT” Means, UNTIL ‘IT’ Is sSelf-ReVealed (UnVeiled): It Means I-O (Alpha-Omega). In Creat,ion, it means, Actively & Effectively, 1,0 (Binary System). The Binary System Functions Via Two AXeS , Bold-&-ReCessed (Never BOTH “Bold” or “Recessed”), At RIGHT-ANGLES from Each Other: the Cross: (+). This Is “The sSelf” (written as such). “Every Unity Is Also A Duality” (Yin-Yang, Two Halves That MAKE One WHole: WM). “WM” IsIs “The Pump” That EnAbles “InterChange” of “Energy-‘Matter'” or Dual Force(sS) Between Two Poles (Dual & Polar EX-Press,ions; 99/1). This IS “life” (IlL-us-Ion). “Reality Is An Illusion, Albeit A Persistent One” (Albert Einstein). Now, “A” (Know Thy Self) Is-Is Revealed. “You” Are Both “Two” & “One”, Which Is “Three. (TRINITY + ONE). Why? Can You Handle The Truth? = “Every Unity Is Also A Triplicity” (Not Too Difficult, to Some). The Third “EL-ement” (All) is The SineWave (~), or “Seperator”, The “In-BeTween” (Dual, In-Out/WithIN/WithOUT). … To keep this “simple,” (Note: ‘IT’ Is ‘The’ “InEffable”) You are Both Your Friend AND Enemy, Simultaneously, Which Is The Universe (Creation), “All Things.” To Sum up, here’s a “Mysticall” (Myst-I-Call, Con-Den-Sate,Ion) quote: “Kadmos (Visible), who Personifies the dawn of Abstract though, the mystic light from the East (InVisible), ALSO stands for the Individual (Visible) in whom that ligh has dawned (InVisible), and As Such he INCLUDES All the Other Personifications In The Drama (Creation, SELF)… and therefore has to At-One for their sins (S,ionS).” (“Adorers of Dionysos,” James Pryse, 1925). The “Self” Is BOTH ‘The Nothing’ (0, NonZero) & ‘The All’ (1, -1/+1). … “Forms Do Not EXist In Nature – What we Think we See As Form Is(-Is) Only an Aggregate of ProceSSeS” (Eloise Franco). The End: sSS ($SS). (Later, “The SuperSymmetrical sSelf”.) KNow Thy sSelf. IO. (0,1). (PS – The CUP Must Be Emptied.)

        • paul degagne on March 17, 2012 at 6:15 am


          This post of yours — your a walking encyclopedia.

          Too bad nobody’s hiring reincarnated Diderot or whatever that Enlightenment Guy’s name was!

          I know most in this room don’t bother reading my post but Naga do you really think they will read yours?

          Some of them still got jobs — remember that? Living in the rat race with not much time to PAUSE. I guess like Baudrilaud that freaky french fox once mentioned — the disabled or handicapped are the richest because they still have all the TIME in the world!

          Now who really are the True Aristocrats? The Fats Cats with millions who spend 70 to 80 hours a week earning money or making sure nobody is ripping them off or the ones with mininum sub-asistance like us with IDLE MINDS.

          From sic READING your above post you certainly are not idle. ( someone is sure having fun playing in your mind, ha, ha!)

          Have a Great Re-Created > Extended Day, this very day = Today!

          • SSNaga on March 17, 2012 at 8:12 am

            Paul – Having been on the net for 9 yrs., I Know “who” reads my comments: 1 to 3%; more generally, about 1%. Man(un)kind is A youthful Race (hope you truly know that. An old race is not so “Tribal”). So, you “got me there.” It’s quite ok, for the Nagas are Holders of The Hidden Wisdom (rather “Scary” to Meet, but Benevolent to those Paying Attention). The Adamites couldn’t tolerate Them, and physical extermination became the requisite Agenda: hence, Lost opportunity re “The Fast Track of EVolution.” Man(un)kind likes to Plod & self-Indulge. Here is the “Hidden Wisdom” behind Such Truth: It is Archetypal & Self-Resonant, & Is Accumulational… It Stores in The SuperSymmetrical Self. When Work instead of Play takes Precedence (as it eventually Does), it is AvailAble by “The Remembering” – through All Aeons of reincarnational loss. They will Evolve, whether here, or Else’where’ – Despite themsSelves. … Now, Look for the comment (coming Later) titled: “THE SUPERSYMMETRICAL SELF.” It will Help You See… Certainly… & Increase your Base&ApeX to Know Thy Self. (PS – Your day’s comments Carried A Most Special Serendipity that I caught… Some’One’ is OverSeeing that “mindplay” of Yours. Time to Meet That One.)

          • paul degagne on March 17, 2012 at 8:55 am

            You said, “We are micro-holo -reflections of the Universe.” I am ok with Holography. With the lousy food we eat we just might end up HOLLOWED-out shells or reflections of the Universe.

            Yes, predation is true but “stop the clocks” or should I say fast forward/rewind the images of lions killing their prey where they are lioning around stuffed – on their backs with their legs spread wide apart lounging for hours just like some cute putty-kats. ( what we see or are shown is only a few seconds of the kill which make huge impressions on mnd as a child rather than the hours lions spend sprawled around hanging around.)

            Unveiled — now that is a useful word along with INVISIBLE. I always say “invisible forms may not be all that invisible? Fish at the deepest, darkest parts of the Ocean don’t even have eyes. Who needs them down there? But there are clever fish who have this little spotlight in an antenna above their heads for those fish who still have a need for eyes. Now who wants a pair of eyes or what use is a pair of eyes if you cant ‘sense” or in-2-it the invisible or if the only thing you see is a lite-menu and your on it.

            As far as binary systems go SCREW THAT KIND OF REASONING! Simple yes or no is not needed in my book. Totalitarian tip-toes where you never have to think Analogically or it’s not your place to reason why but only do and die.

            I noticed the younger kids in college got terrific memories so they do very well with binary thinking in multiple-choice exams. Give them one of those blue pads and tell them to write and they are all duhhhhs! because you see —- you have to think analogical if you don’t want to end up just being convinced your a robot or trans-human!

            As far as some of your esoteric mentions of what I believe secret-societies’ hidden meanings. Well I haven’t studied that enough and it really takes up too much precious time. I just recently read the real reason the Great Secret Meaning HASN’Tbeen discovered or found but still sought after is because there is no great secret mystery! (I find this a very tempting proposition which I am sure you do not assume!)

            There is some guy over in Ireland or someplace like that who has a book explaining the occult meanings of every word in the alphabet. Now I find that very interesting. So maybe at one stage of the game learning the alphabet from some other source other then BIG BIRD did indeed have almost a magical influence over the subject. Today, I got the impression the process of initiation but I would call it Brainwashing in the transition from a Oral to a Literate Based Culture occurs in some ordinary mundane environment like Public School N0. 35!.

            Coupled the above paragraph with Paul Von Ward’s speculation of the origin of Language (those two chapters in his book — Gods, Genes, and Consciousness and I just may start listening to your
            magio-mystical-hyterical references or talk? ( the Zetchin idea that the humans could be better slaves if they could use a certain type of language so lets create a new version of human.)

            I believe there is something not “quite” right with Language ITSELF that we or at least I better get a handle on or else I will turn into one of those binary Dough-dough yes/no people you seem so excited about.

            I guess speaking in a way you may better understand me — Maybe the MATRIX I am in doesn’t require that kind of knowledge but I do have Experience that has been divorced from knowledge (what a shame for they once were one) Now I am beginning to sound like you with all these Yin Yang misconceptions.

            I am not Chinese and never will be? But I do everything half-assed backwards. (remember that ethic joke about when a kid in the little league hits a foul-ball that flies up and backward into the fence. We use to call it a CHINESE HOME RUN! But of course at that time nobody around us was Chinese! Today, it wouldn’t be appropriate just like i heard some mexican americans getting an attitude because some mural representing them shows women’s bare breasts.

            The worst story I heard about Political Correctness is some Black African Natives who became Lutherians in some African resort who got offended because the WHITE EUROPEANS who came to relax on vacation at their beaches took their clothes off and bathed/sunbathe in the nude!

            Can you imagine the Indignation of the Black Aftrican Natives exhorting —-“THERE NOT WEARING ANY CLOTHES!”

            NAGA —Yes, Culture Shock in this topsy-turvy Brave New World is something, isn’t it?

          • SSNaga on March 17, 2012 at 10:52 am

            HoHo Humm! You just used “Binary” to ‘have your say!’ You need to Investigate the Conjunctions of Duality & Polarity. You & All Else would be Undifferentiated Without It… Actually, Differentiated As Infinite Potential, But Ever UnAware of such Differentiation (less than the animal kingdoms). So, calling Polarization, Precipitated Duality Pattern EXpressioning, “hogwash,” is Hogwash… a “kind” of Ignorance. What did I convey re “The In-Between?” That’s “You,” the Rainbow/Polarized ssself. Gracious. Railing Against Archetypic Truth is much like a loudly screaming &/or pouting child against Immutable Forces: perhaps you’ll get “a Whipping” as ReAction… maybe just Ignored.

  10. Mel Hatfield on March 15, 2012 at 11:23 am

    One cannot overstate the event that took place 2056 years ago today.

    It forever changed a republic of the people, by the people and for the people to an empire ruled by an elitist few…

    Beware, the Ides of March are upon us!

    • legioXIV on March 15, 2012 at 2:05 pm

      With respect Mel, the Roman republic was never a government of the people, by the people and for the people. The republic was a democratic oligarchy, always run by the elite few. Just take a glance at the consuls list and you will see the same names crop up over the 477 years of the republics duration:
      The Julii Caesares,
      the Cornelii Scipiones,
      the Fabii Maximi
      the Caecilii Metelli, to name just a few.

      The voting system of the republic was always geared towards the wealthier citizens having the more powerful vote. The populace was divided into five classes, each of which was based on wealth and property holdings:
      !st class: The senatorial and Equestrian orders, the richest of the rich in Roman society
      2nd and 3rd Class: Simply equivalent to the middle to high class today
      4th class: the lower middle class
      5th class: the capite censi (head count) literally everyone else.

      The Romans had 3 forms of voting, Comitia Tributa (Tribal Assembly), Comitia Centuriata (Assembly of Centuries) and the Comitia Curiata (Curiate Assembly). To put it simply the Romans divided the populace so that the wealthy had more representative vote than the people. For instance in the Comitia Tributa the people at one stage were divided into 35 tribes with most of the poor being confined to 4 urban tribes or in the Comitia Centuriata the vast majority of the centuries were composed of the 1st and 2nd classes. To cement this even further the Romans instituted a first past the post system where once a majority was reached voting then ceased. So the 4th and 5th classes were rarely given the chance to vote at all.

      To reinforce this even further the Romans had the practise of patronage where the citizen would apply to a nobleman for a favour such as a loan or legal representation. Thus having received the favour the citizen would become a client of the patron and would be in the patrons debt and one way to pay this would be to vote as the patron wishes you to vote. With a very few exceptions this patron-client relationship would endure to the death of one of the parties though often it would remain true for succeeding generations.

      All this is put quite simply as the truth of the running of the Roman Republic is more complex, this is simply in a nutshell so to speak. Many people get confused by the word republic and instantly equate the Roman Republic with the US Republic. The Roman Republic is an entirely different political animal.

      • romanmel on March 15, 2012 at 9:53 pm

        That the Roman republic was a lame attempt at what we established in America, I of course concur. Nevertheless for the “citizen of Rome” it was an important change in status when Julius declared himself Dictator for life.. .

        The point being that the death of Julius constituted the last, albeit unsuccesful attempt by patriots to recapture from the tyrant Caesar the power once vested to the Senate alone, This is the parallel I was attempting to portray to our current situation where the “checks and balances” have been corrupted and power has shifted to the executive branch. In the case of the death of Julius, one tyrant was eventually replaced by an even more dangerous one in Gaius Octavian. Almost every emperor after that claimed he would reestablish the Republic but none ever did, even the great stoic Marcus Aurelius found it impossible. The lesson being “Freedom” once lost is difficult to reestablish.

      • MattB on March 16, 2012 at 6:09 pm

        And as a result of devastating wars like the Punic conflicts, the small representation ‘of the people’ within the tribal assemblies was essentially ignored in favour of ’emergency’ governance of the Senate. What was the outcome? The nobility bought out individual agricultural communities forming the Latifundia’-literally agricultural ‘corporations’, creating monopolies on agricultural goods. The Equites became the financial class-paying enormous bribes and ‘kick-backs’ to the senatorial families who were technically banned from overseas trade. The senatorial families proposed the bills and awarded contracts for public building and foreign mercantile action to the equites in return for ‘shares’ of the profit of the foreign trade (by conquest and loan).

        Sounds familiar doesn’t it?

        By 146 B.C the Senate was appointing military and civil powers outside of the framework of the Roman
        ‘constitution’. As a result, power was further pushed into the hands of the most powerful Roman families eventually leading to the class wars during the age of the Gracchi. By Caesar’s time the law had been bent so severely that dictatorship and eventually Monarchy was the result. From there Imperialism and the constant use of religious ‘misinterpretation’ in order to legitimise foreign conquest as actions of ‘self defence’ in order to keep the order functioning.

        Sounds familiar doesn’t it?

        • legioXIV on March 17, 2012 at 3:03 pm

          I would absolutely agree Matt, the republic had been destroyed well before Caesar was named by the senate as dictator for life.

          The rot began to set with the very thing you mentioned, the growth of the latifundia and the disappearance of the small hold farmer.

          It increased with the tribunate of Tiberius Sempronius Gracchus, when for the bribery of tribunes to oppose him became more common place thus removing one of the fundamental roles of the tribunes of the plebs, their role as protector of the people. Thus from then on the tribunes became the tools of the elites, bought and paid for.

          The military reforms of Gaius Marius had among its unintended effects the politicization of the army. With manpower losses the ranks were opened to all comers thus removing the previous property qualifications required upon enlistment. Now the poor could fight but to keep them out of trouble upon retirement, Marius decided to grant soldiers land, to make farmers of them. As each general had to fight tooth and nail against the senate for land for their soldiers so the legions began naturally to place their allegiance to their general before that to the state. It was only a matter of time before a Roman Army became the personal army of the general in command.

          The Roman constitution took its biggest knock when when the tribune Sulpicius Rufus, acting on behalf of Gaius Marius, stripped the legal consul Lucius Cornelius Sulla of his command of the Mithridatic War in favour of the now very old Marius. Sulla decided to use illegality against illegality and appealed to his army for support. Thus Sulla became the first Roman to lead a Roman Army against Rome.

          This opened the flood gates for the destruction of the republic as it was now recognized that armies could be used for solving political disputes.
          You have Lucius Cornelius Cinna using his army when he was illegally deposed as consul.
          You have Lucius Cornelius Sulla using his army to have himself proclaimed dictator to implement his reactionary revolution and to carry out his ‘proscriptions’.
          You have Marcus Licinius Crassus and Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus using their armies to browbeat the senate into naming them as consuls.
          You have Marcus Aemilius Lepidus using his army to counter the reactionary revolution of Sulla.
          You have Lucius Sergius Catalina using an army after Marcus Tullius Cicero browbeat him into revolution just because Cicero wanted to have ‘something happen’ during his consulship and thus appear the hero.

          One of the darkest hours was when that great paragon of virtue, the humane philosopher, that example of geat statesmanship, Marcus Tullius Cicero had roman citizens executed without a trial during the so called ‘Cataline conspiracy’. Not only were they executed extra-judiciously, they were executed for an intention,not for anything they had done. A very bad precedent to set.

          All this and more did one Gaius Julius Caesar see as he was growing up until the time he himself became consul for the first time. I think that to name Caesar as a tyrant is very simplistic. The true man was far more complex. I would note the many times Caesar instituted land laws, debt reform laws and such to help the poorer citizens and the many reforms he tried to implement to set the Republic back on its feet.

          Caesar wished to fix the republic and in so doing he recognized that it could never be the same again. Sure, part of this was out of his own desire to shine out more than others, to satisfy his own sense of worth, all Romans acted this way. However I believe that part of it was out of a genuine desire to perform a duty to the state, that Caesar was a patriot.

          It is true that he never me an honour that he did not like, such as accepting the dictator for life title from the senate, but I would argue that Gaius Julius Caesar was a far greater patriot than the so-called ‘liberators’. A bigger gang of cut-throats, thieves, liars and betrayers would be harder to scrape from the bottom of the barrel of roman elite society. Gaius Trebonius, a former caesarian general afraid that he was being eclipsed by other generals. Marcus Junius Brutus, the Rottenchild of his day, who would lend out money to provincials at truly exorbitant interest rates and then lock them up and starve them to death when they could not pay,or use soldiers to level villages when the headman owed him money. These men were no patriots and theirs was no act of ‘liberation’. They were jealous of Caesar, nothing more.

          As for the people? Well the people loved Caesar and this was true for all classes. Every election he stood in he was top of the polls by far and away. This love affair between the people and Caesar endured even after Caesar was named Dictator for life. Why else would the ‘liberators’ have to go into voluntary exile because Rome was no longer safe for them? The people mourned the passing of Caesar deeply, so much so that he was deified after death and was worshiped as a god willingly by the people.

          Gaius Julius Caesar was no mere tyrant.
          Gaius Julius Caesar was a patriot with a vision.

          • MattB on March 17, 2012 at 3:44 pm

            Yes Legio I would have to agree. Yes Caesar was opportunistic-what Roman nobel wasn’t? He did owe the ‘banksters’ a whole lot of money and he got away from them- SOUNDS FAMILIAR DOESN’T IT?

            Like I said in a previous post: ‘Who will be the Arminius for Amerika?’ ‘Where will that Teutoburgerwald be?’ Afghanistan?, Israel? Iran? Central Asia? South America?

            I have suspected for quite some time that India is a strong player. The Iran ‘option’ just got a whole lot more complicated:


          • legioXIV on March 17, 2012 at 3:55 pm

            G’day Matt,
            I am thinking that the SPQA will meet it’s Teutoburgerwald in Iran at the hands of an Iranian Arminius.
            The question for me is whether this is preordained.
            Will Lord Obama wander around the white house banging his head against the walls and crying ‘Varus, give me back my legions’?
            Or will Lord Obama rub his hands in glee and say ‘Varus, thank you for losing my legions. Thank you for giving me a new Thermopylae’ ?

          • Robert Barricklow on March 17, 2012 at 4:38 pm

            Having read Michael Parenti’s, The Assassination of Julius Caesar: A People’s History of Ancient Rome, it just confirmed what I had already read AND the some.

            Above is a video for a flavor of the book – which, of course is much, much better.

          • Robert Barricklow on March 17, 2012 at 4:42 pm

          • legioXIV on March 17, 2012 at 5:08 pm

            That’s a brilliant little analysis Robert and only reinforces what I already believe. Caesar was a great leader who agitated for change, who worked for the interest of the common people, who wanted to clean up the corruption of the oligarchic senate and for this he was cut down.
            Sure Caesar would benefit from this personally as the popular leader but then who truly acts on the motive of helping others without any form of recompense? No-one. We all expect some form of benefit from our actions, otherwise why bother? In the case of Caesar this is doubly true because in the back of his mind would have lurked the thought of assassination because of his actions. Look what happened to Tiberius and Gaius Sempronius Gracchus, Marcus Livius Drusus and Publius Clodius Pulcher, all men who stood forth for change and all cut down for it.
            This is the essence of the tragedy of Gaius Julius Caesar, and it is truly tragic if you think of what the republic could have been had he been able to carry out his self appointed task. The republic was sick and Caesar had the vision and the courage to do something about it. No-one else could or wanted or had the profile to do it, only Caesar stood forth. Hopefully in the future that despite his faults Gaius Julius Caesarwas truly a great man.

          • legioXIV on March 17, 2012 at 5:11 pm

            Hopefully in future Gaius Julius Caesar is remembered as having been a truly great man.

        • legioXIV on March 17, 2012 at 5:33 pm

          G’day Matt, if you are talking about the senatus consultum de re publica defendenda (Senatus consultum ultimum) I would absolutely agree, the initial and subsequent uses of this decree more than anything irreparably damaged the ‘checks and balances’ of the Roman constitution.Wave the Senatus consultum ultimum around and wala, all impediments disappear.

          • MattB on March 17, 2012 at 7:17 pm

            Yep, spot on. I think another very interesting ‘analogy’ would have to be Cato and his ‘Delenda set Carthago’ policy. His ultra conservatism (in opposition to the Scipionic circle and their philhellenism) caused a great deal of damage in foreign countries. He also attempted to regulate Roman religious and social customs via the Lex Oppia (far Christian evangelical right anyone?).

            The internal influence in Greece sounds a great deal like the Middle East; the Philhellenic factions defeating the ‘tyrannical’ power of Macedon, then going home. The Conservative Catonian appointed generals cracking down on various Greek factions that sought independence (as well as raping the territory of gold, art and literature). The result was that former allies turned on Roman in reaction to their inconsistent and sometimes brutal foreign policy.

            What was the natural outcome? Carthage and Corinth were annihilated in 146 B.C. (Hiroshima and Nagasaki anyone?). Slavery became the foundation of the economy, the working farmer was bought out or moved to the city, Imperialsim was a central tenet of Government (on going foreign wars in Spain), the nobility dominated policy and infrastructure, the banksters were given a financial monopoly via corruption and religious values were greatly corrupted by cults and ‘immoral’ social behaviour.

            Sounds familiar doesn’t it?

          • legioXIV on March 17, 2012 at 8:32 pm

            excellent analogy Matt, though I would substitute Tripoli and Baghdad for Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Old Cato the Censor hey? another perfect example as to why the Republic was dying.

    • legioXIV on March 15, 2012 at 2:16 pm

      Incidentally on things Roman, does anyone else here see any strong parallels between the Constitutional Settlements of Augustus with the Senate and the NDAA (and other laws) with Congress and Obama?

      Does anyone else here see the Parallels between the modern US Presidency and the Principate?

      Are we looking at the birth of a new Principate and a new Princeps?

      Maybe it is just me but that is exactly what I am beginning to see.

      • Robert Barricklow on March 15, 2012 at 5:08 pm

        I lost count how many times our current oligarchies( I’am sorry to include Australia, U.S., England, etc.[too many to count]) have crossed the Rubicon. Suffice the say the parallels are numerous.
        Also pararells with the East India Company. The key simularities are that very great riches in private men are always dangerous, because they create a great dependence than cannot be consistant with the security of any government whatsoever; they destroy among ‘The Commons’, that balance of Property & Power, which is necessary to democracy/republic. It has been justly observed of political combinations of men, or corporations, that they have bodies – but no souls, nor consequent consciouness.
        As you know in Rome the fire dept, & police(for lack of a better word) were, for the most part, private entities under different allegiances. In fact, it was the rich oligarchy that assassinated Caesar, because his policies were effecting the balance, of the existing status-quo “growing inequalities”.
        Even the hero of some of these current neo/liberals/cons, Adam Smith, in his 3rd edition of Wealth of Nations, said that the governments of an exclusive company of merchants is, perhaps, the worst of all governments whatsoever.

        Now, what would Adam Smith say to such a government, that aspired to be a one-world-government, criminal syndicate of oligarchs(company of criminal merchants)?

        • legioXIV on March 15, 2012 at 6:56 pm

          Like Marcus Licinius Crassus and his fire brigade?

          • Robert Barricklow on March 15, 2012 at 7:46 pm

            They would watch houses burn down and only save the ones they were told to. Sometimes they would start the fires, to achieve a competitive advantage. But, as you referenced, this is starting to happen now across the world. For example, in the U.S. some departments are commissioned by certain insurance companies, but not others. While, at the same time, some insurance companies then do not pay full appraised value of the home, as the value insured did not rise with said value, even though the insurances paid did rise. Now some police departments are being privatized. So its come back full circle, to a sort of modernized fuedalism.
            This has been a crisis by design. They feign suprise, but its been engineered. Like the Oklahoma, then the Twin Towers, the implosion of the economy, Greece, ALL engineered crisis by design.
            The media, politicians, ect., all parts; not necessarily in the know, but on a need to know bases.
            An illusion, once penetrated by critical thought/it becomes second nature to spot Houdini in the act – before the suprised escape, bailout, or inevitable privitized solution.

          • Robert Barricklow on March 15, 2012 at 10:01 pm

            An interesting economic analysis video using Australia as example.

          • HAL838 on March 16, 2012 at 6:58 am

            Seems that the details may [seem to] change,
            but the wider picture stays, and will so until it plays out,
            the same.

      • MattB on March 16, 2012 at 6:16 pm

        The question is: ‘ Who will be the Arminius for Amerika?’

        Will the Teutoburgerwald be in Iran? Israel? Central Asia?

  11. Robert Barricklow on March 15, 2012 at 10:15 am

    The Nation-States, as you referenced, have been targeted and on their way out, with ironically, the bithplace of democracy leading the way: Greece.
    The weapon of choice is a Nation-State’s inherit right to issue its own curreny being usurpted by the international banking cartel. The East India Company of yesteryear has now morphed into Darpa/IMF/Google like entities of the Corporate Elite State.
    Now they are about to pull the rug out from under the U.S. reserrve currency status and throw the world further into a Merch Madness of Orwellian dimensions with collecterization of human flesh being just one of many aspects.

  12. paul degagne on March 15, 2012 at 5:00 am

    Dear Farrell,

    You asked for comments or suggestions about thinking outside the box?

    Let’s think about the ‘box’s’ itself?

    I am going to post this paragraph from Zygmunt Bauman’s book titled “Society Under Siege” from Chapter two called “the Great Separation Mach Two” on page 72 – 73:

    In my student years one of the most popular characters in the
    science of animal behaviour was a fish called a stickleback. Male
    sticklebacks build nests for the females to lay and store roe. The
    males guard the nests until the eggs are hatched. An invisible border-
    line separates the ‘home territory’ ( that is, the space
    that the male defends against intruders, attacking all trespassing
    stickleback males ) from ‘foreign territory’ ( that is, all the rest of
    space, from which the male flees if it comes accidentally across
    another member of the species ). In laboratory experiments two
    male sticklebacks were put during the spawning season into
    the water tank too small to keep their respective ‘home territories’
    apart. Confused males, getting contradictory and irreconcilable sig-
    nels and so unable to choose unambiguously between fight and
    escape, assumed a ‘neither – nor’ vertical posture burying heads in
    sand — obviously a postue completely irrelevant to the quandary, let
    alone to its resolution. Since my student years the comparative study
    of animal behaviour has made enormous strides. Sticklebacks may
    be all but forgotten, but their idiosyncratic conduct has been recog-
    nized as a specimen of a much wider, probably universal regularity.
    Whenever confronted with contradictory, ambivalent, illegible or
    inconstant, labile signals, animals tend to develop INHIBITION — a sort
    of behavioural paralysis. The learned, habitualized modes of behav-
    iour are suspended. What follows then is either a behavioural de-
    pression manifested in total inaction, or a resort to ‘irrational
    conduct’ — moves only tenuously if at all related to the situation
    causing distress. If the latter option is taken, tension tends to be
    temporarily relieved through pointless aggression that leaves the
    causes of distress intact. Similar behavioural alternatives have been
    observed in the case of signals that are admittedly umambiguous but
    that portend a danger that cannot be avoided whatever the
    threatened animal may do ( escape and fighting back being both our
    of the question ).

  13. paul degagne on March 15, 2012 at 3:35 am

    I am not surprised in the least about a union of government and private industry. It greatly increased during WWII so why would it be foolish not to protect oneself in the case of a very real Cyber-war?

    Amongst all the threats of big brother – it is good to pause, remember and think about ‘legitimate’ attacks for it isn’t all just about manipulation. We peons may be nothing to them (elites) but to the WORLD they are indeed afraid! (this is not cold-war fear mongreling for the rulers hide their own fears not quite well enough?)

    Globalization is a free-for-all in a practically lawless stratosphere! Cyberspace is the new Frontier. (Too bad we cant leave the ruins and migrate to it like in 1492. We can and millions do flee into just their imaginations but then there’s a little thing called material reality that gets in the way, disturbs things and ruins plans!

    Yes, I can imagine some higher-ups saying to themselves — “Good Riddence – don’t let the door hit you on the way out.” Move off to the new Austrialia of cyberspace. This would alieviate many insect-like problems for us. A past alternative/solution which was once stupidly used. (send all the MISFITS out to Cyber-space – maybe even make them happy out there in their misery! Confirm all their fears so they can feel so rightous?)

    SHOCK (i prefer the use of the term – Traumatized) —- We are all STUCK ON THE SAME SPHERE. Time to re-read Kant concerning his beliefs of a fellowship or decent community on this SPHERE.

    Not the time for it you say. Well — appreciating BEAUTY and POETRY is a logical next step. Why am I not surprised of De Hart’s wanderings – good luck. (you may even one day say “Forget all this nonsense of Physics and the Ancient Past — Beauty is where it’s at if you are gifted to live to be very old or 109!

    when confronting horrors or the Unconscious — find a compensating counter-action! (The difficulty (for me at least) is the ambiguity when one throws BEAUTY/BEASTALTY together or mixes it up!

    Sometimes very complex, abstract calculations are based on simple equations. Outside the “BOX” doesn’t mean just more complexity!) It can get so familiar, like seeing the nose on our face, yet —– how many times a day do we take for granted the NOSE on our faces?

    Stimulus — Reaction (using high-powered Computer- generated estimates from all this spying we’re doing on you – we can get at least a practical estimate of WHAT’S UP DOC?”) – Talk about a Simple Scientific Method or Concept!

    I will continue over and over to remind people the abstract is not always OCCULT? Remember (if your old enough) how you learnt the MULTIPLICATION TABLES. ( I sure wish I also learned Mathematical Topological theory along with it? Simplicity yes, but – have backup!)

    Have a good day —- and don’t forget to sniff-around? (my dog is teaching me about dog-telephone lines, ha,ha!)

    • paul degagne on March 15, 2012 at 3:40 am

      One more thing — one of the benefits of attending night school is that the instructors aren’t professional teachers or educators. My Economics instructor made two trips to Saudi Arabia during our class semester. He mentioned one old Cultural Habit of theirs was to SNIFF you to see how you smelt before finalizing or closing a deal.

      This is a very interesting curiosity!

      It’s not that foolish — ever get the sudden urge to eat pizza only to realize the scent is being pumped into the air! Sneaky, sneaky, sneaky1

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