NICK REDFERN ON THE ALLEGED SPITZBERGEN UFO CRASH, AND SOME WIDER ...
This is one of those moments when one slaps oneself on the forehead, and says "(Insert your name here), you blockhead!" Well, I've inserted my name into that sentence, because I was just sent the following very interesting article and commentary by Nick Redfern on the famous - or depending on one's lights, infamous - Spitzbergen, Norway, crashed and recovered UFO story:
The Spitsbergen UFO: A “Plant”?
Now, the reason I'm slapping myself on the forehead is because when my friend P.H. shared this article with me, I had one of those moments where you realize that you have overlooked an obvious thing, and a relevant thing, to some of the ideas and concepts you've been kicking around in your head, or, even writing about.
While I'm not a ufologist by any stretch of the imagination, this case when it became known to me years ago, both intrigued me, and gave me profound misgivings, and I share ufology's skepticism over the whole incident. But what I want to point to here is Redfern's analysis toward the end of the article:
"And yet, that curious one-word note, scrawled many years previous by an anonymous NSA employee, continues to puzzle me. Rather than indicating an outright hoax, the “PLANT” reference suggested that the Spitsbergen story (even if bogus) had been disseminated officially, possibly to cloud and confuse the rumors surrounding crashed-UFO incidents in the late 1940s and early 1950s.
"Of course, this begs the questions: (A) How many more “UFO crash” stories may have had their origins in the world of government/intelligence-orchestrated programs of disinformation and psychological warfare; and (B) why the need for such actions?
"Perhaps certain governments really do have crashed UFOs in their possession and wish to swamp the real data with so much faked material that the former will get buried, hidden and confused by the latter. Or, maybe there has never been a real crashed UFO event – ever – but certain governments, at the height of the Cold War, dearly wished to promote such scenarios as a means to frighten and intimidate the enemy."
Redfern, in my opinion, gets it exactly right here. If governments have recovered extra-terrestrial craft, they are likely to attempt to obfuscate details of their recovery; similarly, it makes sense, as Redfern avers, if governments have not recovered such craft, but are attempting to convince their enemies that they have as a psychological warfare operation. In each case - that of having really recovered advanced extra-terrestrial technology, and that of simply creating a story - the target audience is the same: human beings.
But now let's entertain the idea that there really are extra-terrestrials, and that they really are visiting this planet, and in entertaining this idea, let's look at the psychological warfare scenario a bit more closely. Let's make one final assumption: let's assume that what many people within the UFOlogy community believe, is true, and that we are being visited by many different species of ETs: grays, "reptilians", Nordics...the whole extra-terrestrial pantheon. Suppose, for a moment, that governments were aware of these, and that they were aware of the different species and of tensions between them, and perhaps has learned a bit about their differing psychologies.
Is it conceivable, given all these assumptions, that the ultimate targets of psychological operations are not human at all? Could the confusing claims of differing physiologies and crash-and-recovery of such craft be intended for entirely different targets, as, for example, in the intention to send the message "We have recovered the technology of your mortal enemy and nemesis?"
While all of this is purely speculative, I raise them because they point to a third possibility that is implied in Redfern's analysis, namely, the signatures of psychological warfare in some alleged UFO crash-and-retrieval cases need to be examined and scrutinized carefully, to see if in fact the underlying psychology is more indicative of a human target, or some other kind of intelligence. Signatures of psychological operations at work in such stories thus do not necessarily mean or imply that there are no ETs.
We may expand on this philosophical approach to suggest something slightly different, namely, the hypothesis advanced by others seeking to interpret the UFO phenomenon that it originates not necessarily with "ETs" in the classic sense, but with "inter-dimensional" beings akin to angels or demons of classical religious tradition. Again, this would imply that psychological operations could be being conducted againstthem as well.
It seems to me that the bottom line is this: So long as the question of the origin of UFOs remains an open one(and it is), then by the same token, considerations of psychological operations with respect to UFOs must also grant the possibility that the targets of such operations might not be human at all. If Redfern's logic is true - that both sides during the Cold War might have resorted to such psychological operations in order to execute a classic poker bluff, that they had more technologies in their hand than was publicly known - then it stands to reason that if governments were faced with any off-planet threat, real or potential, then they would resort to such psychological operations from an even greater necessity than they would in the face of a potential human enemy during the Cold War. "ET" would literally have to be bluffed, if possible, that humanity had, or at least was in the process of developing, sophisticated technologies. After all, claiming to have a crashed and recovered UFO would be equally threatening to ETs as it was to Communist apparatchiks in Moscow.
There are further implications here, but those will have to wait until tomorrow...
See you on the flip side.
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Oh, and on an aside: Should I continue having a peeve about even notable persons’ use of forms of the phrase “to beg the question”? Or should I just embrace the fact that its meaning appears to have been changed through use in the real world? I’m sure it’s happening organically in this case, and probably not through social engineering.
Your work tops the short list of thinkers/writers who still excite my mind…
I have to whole heartedly agree with you on the latest Red Ice Radio and Byte Show interviews with JPF. There is no doubt that Dr. Farrell is one of Henrik’ favourites.
What I’d really like to know is…………what is the name of the upcoming book by JPF which is the sequel to Babylon Banksters, any clues JPF ????
Maybe “Monatomic Gold” it’s not the Gold Bars in the bank.
I hope Dr. Farrell’s new book will be entitled “Babylon’s Wanksters”- it would be fitting… 🙂
Dr. Farrell just finished the book according to the most recent “Cosmic War” Byte Show interview, so I assume he will hold that secret until it is ready for preorder or close to it. I really look forward to that one and may have to read it out of order. The comparison of the U.S. now with ‘Venice in decay’ is really fascinating to me, though, I suppose, not in the nicest way. But knowing is half the battle…it might stoke up an appetite and desire in folks to steer a different course, and that begins inside each of us. Okay that might sound a little New age-y to some, but, well, bite me I guess, lol.
If aliens are “visiting”(a BIG if) then they would be so alien as to be …well alien. Interdimensional most likely scenario.
So this is, for all practicle purposes, an earthbound manifestation. There is; however, the ancient “alien” past from which “we” are linked. The question is how much of that “past” has been/is part of our present/future? In what ways? Can we breakaway? Do we want to?
“they” can do hologramming, transit beaming, suggestive programming . that controls dreams and thoughts….I have a hunch “it” is a machine of sorts and created us in the creators image. Kind of like in the superman storyline. Anyhow there are 6 billion of us on the planet, we have the internet, its a nice day outside so what if I am a slave, beats camping and running from the abominable snowman.
Did you read the greenbaum article….the Qabala green tree….geb , old man river.
In the 2001 movie, the main character (the guy that had the ham and cheese sandwich lol)was a anagram of defy holywood, which the Dr purports has been taking over by “them”. In reply do you feel like you are in a 13 movie…That was Stanleys point, a bunch of Astronots looking at a movie screen (the obelisk sideways, a reference to the all seeing eye turned 90 degrees sideways into a vagina which you come out of to be born), on the moon since the Renaissance being watched over by IBM computer programmers who one of the astronots figures out is cheating at chess, the all seeing hal can lip read (read minds?)….odd as they were shutting down the programmers the first programs were nursery rhymes.
Now what message were the Rothchilds putting out?
There is alot to those Nursery Rhymes,
and the mickey mouse club as well.
The Rothchilds are on record that they made a mistake…..would that be opies film “Houston we got a problem”.
Would that problem be the military industrial monster, NASA, and the huge rip off aka, the federal reserve free for all feeding frenzie that went hay wire during the 60s?
Ever wonder how the big guy changed the languages so that the babblers couldnt understand one another? Multi Culti ring any bells?
Look at the serpent me love you long time China, oh yeah we got a problem with aliens all right.
In Kubricks 13th movie and final swan song before he was heart attacked, he comes right out and says a new guy is running the costume shop and its owner is pimping out his daughter to Orion entals….as Dr Bill is traveling in CABS in circles to cross the road from the bar to the restaurant.
pss Robert they found another aether lighting laser water pump anti polarity frequency pizeo electric free energy machine (aka pyramid) up in Alaska..fits four of giza in its base. ….thats 755 times 2. a number that checks out
London bridges falling down, falling down?
Will be out of pocket for a few days.
no more posey for rosy the fair lady?
Hickery dickery dock, the mouse ran up the clock, the clock struck 12 the mouse fell down hickery dickery dock.
POP! goes the weasle.
Back in the saddle.
The ancient alien foot-prints are actually our own. Though it is out of balance; doomed to unravel, the vested interests have way too many chips in the pot to divest themselves of the current paradigm; a heady consensual reality of and for power. The break-away, ego-dipped, wicked kings and priests have forbidden their deaf/dumb domesticated bipeds from discovering the grand cyclical processes of sleep/wake, depriving their slave labor from learning how ancient we all really are.
“At the end of all our searching, we shall arrive at the beginning, and know the place for the first time” — TS Elliot
Please google the greenbaum speech…
In that he, details what is happening on a mass scale. Basically we are being subjected to mass traumas & in this mass trauma, our new programming is inserted. This is the beyond cliff notes version but google that speech if you are curious to hear from a purported DR who specializes in psychology.
He discovered quite accidentally, ritual abuse victims all across the country and back tracked his way into understanding what was going on. He then worked on how to delete the traumatic programming…its INSANELY deep in this end of the pool though…
gestalt psychology….worked wonders in the big event. (the JFK thing)
Dear Dr. Farrell,
Many, many thanks for your (once again) excellent interview on Red Ice Radio!
There’s a great energy between you and Henrik, just as is the case with GeorgeAnn. 🙂 🙂
Loved it, perfect brain food. 😉
This textual poker game, the ploy or “bluff” approach to UFO’s and/or interdimensionality—would not that dovetail into the implied more ancient “threat” to TPTB that Dr. Farrell alludes to in his Red Ice Radio interview?
In other words, if we’ve been dumbed down genetically through DNA intervention to overcome posing a possible threat by means of some kind of deconstructive Babel Tower Moment—can our ploy now of implied assistance from other factions actually bluff the way we want it too?
How will the Yahwehist faction interpret such a poker game ploy or bluff—other than see it as just another all-too-human threat? With so many possible factions and agendas at work—the scenario reads like “The Spy Who Came in from the Cold,” nicht wahr?
Do we have a royal flush?
I agree with you totaly- and Dr. Farrell’s insights are always, well, very insightful-
Henrik Palmgren always seems to resonate very, very deeply with all of his guests- he’s never balked once at the info he’s given (and a lot of it is pretty hair-raising- well, for some)- he’s an incredibly informed individual but seems to have no ‘website ego’ whatsoever- his knowledge, extreme modesty, his seemingly limitless objectivity (Palmgren has often stated “I have more questions than answers”) and lack of want of personal gain/fame have always impressed me to the utmost-
RedIceCreations is a jewel in a box of otherwise internet rhinestones (just my own personal ‘cheap’ opinion)-