Few people can read my books on the emergence of Nazi technology and come away with the impression that I believe that the entire miserific development of the Third Reich has to do with contact with extraterrestrials or crash-and-recovery effeorts. I have made it abundantly clear that I regard the attempt at grounding this technological achievement in stories of extra-terrestrial contact, or crash-and-recovery memes, as a kind of philosophical and methodological dead end. In my most recent book on the subject, Saucers, Swastikas, and Psyops, I wrote this in the preface:

"You are about to embark on reading a book populated by a whole host of bizarre characters, strange concepts, and sources that are of dubious standing, from Neo-Nazis, to famous early UFO "contactees," to more reputable sources such as engineers in the loftiest reaches of the military-industrial complex, tenured historians in academia, UFOlogists, and the even stranger relationships between all of them. For the past few years now, I have written a series of books exploring exotic Nazi technology and have attempted to rationalize its achievements on the basis of terrestrial science and engineering principles that were known at the time. In pursuing this story, I have also attempted to survey in many previous books the implications of this technology for history. (Emphasis added)

"In presenting the conclusions of this research throughout those books, and then as a guest speaker at some conferences, I have invariably been asked by a certain type of what may best be called “UFO-ET religionist” if all this explosion of technology during the Nazi era was not best explained by them having recovered a crashed UFO and reverse-engineered it. Needless to say, after having written several books on the Nazi Bell story and attempting to rationalize its various details as best as I can, I find such questions irritating at one level and – to be honest – insulting at another, for why bother to research the subject at all if any claims for the existence of an exotic technology, Nazi or otherwise, is to be explained by such a procedure?"

In other words, for me, the introduction of such memes only short circuits the process of trying to investigate a speculative rationalization of such achievements on the basis of terrestrial science. And I have said, over and over, in interview after interview, that I do not place much stock in stories of Nazi contact with ET, or in crash-and-recovery scenarios, in a kind of Nazi version of Roswell.

You can therefore imagine my surprise when I discovered that the above book was recently mentioned in the blog of Ms. Kerry Cassidy of Project Camelot fame. Under a section heading entitled "A Word About the History of ET Technology Acquisition" the following paragraphs occur:

"It is known that Tesla was himself, was aware that he was 'in contact' with an unknown race of off-planet beings who downloaded to him the key concepts behind certain technology.  In describing the history of our interaction with off-world (and inter/intra dimensional races and the acquisition of special technologies, you can, for example, go back to the days of Eisenhower and his famed meeting with at least 2 groups of ETs (Greys and Nordics) at Muroch Air Force Base (now known as Edwards Air Force Base).  However, that is just one of many places to start.   From all indications, …”we are not alone and we have never been alone”, to quote Command Sergeant Robert O. Dean, a whistleblower who violated his security oath in order to inform the people regarding the truth behind the reality of ET visitation.

"Another logical place (well documented by scholars and researchers such as Jim Marrs (THE FOURTH REICH) and Joseph Farrell, (author of SAUCERS,  SWASTIKAS AND PSYOPS: A History of A Breakaway Civilization: Hidden Aerospace Technologies and Psychological Operations), is to go back to the days of the Nazis and the establishment of the German high command.  They made contact with a race of ETs through the Vril Society (a small group of women who were "channeling").  The Nazis are also said to have conducted careful research into the flying saucers of India called Vimanas (chronicled in the great writings such as the Upanishads etc).  They are also known to have confiscated and horded hidden archeological records and relics of inestimable value for scientific study… Because of this, Nazis made huge leaps forward into technologies involving space and time travel.  (see the Nazi Bell and Camelot interview with Igor Witkowsky)." (Emphasis added).

(You may read the entire blog here: BLACK PROJECTS : FOLLOW THE MONEY)

This is intriguing to me on any number of levels, since I did not mention the Vril society/channeling episode at any length in Saucers, Swastikas, and Psyops, but rather, in the third chapter of The SS Brotherhood of the Bell, and then in terms that I believe were sufficiently disparaging to be clear that the story remains just that: a story, but hardly the basis of Nazi research behind the Bell. Indeed, I have tried repeatedly to maintain that my reconstruction of the Bell and the possible process of reasoning behind it is speculative, and I have tried to point to the exemplars in the scientific and engineering literature of the day that I believe might have underwritten it. But it remains speculation, and in my opinion, no ETs were involved at all. 

Indeed, the sentence claiming this view - under the section heading of "A Word About the History of ET Technology Acquisition" remember - is in itself so historically questionable that it almost beggars belief. The simple fact is, the German High Command was not created or "established" by the Nazis. The command structure of the Reich pre-existed the Nazi rise to power, and at best, all that might be argued is that the Nazis re-organized the command structure they inherited from the Weimar Republic, and that, in turn, from the Kaiser's Germany. Indeed, during the interwar period and long before the Nazis came to power, General Hans von Seekt had deliberately constructed theReichsheerwith the view that re-armament was an inevitability, and that the small army would form the nucleus officer corps for a vastly expanded German military, and these plans included the command structure.

But to return to the main point: I utterly disavow  any attempt to suggest that I believe, or that I have anywhere, in any of my works, argued or implied that any Nazi technological achievements, howsoever one might rationalize the science behind them, are the result of ET contact by the Germans, by any means, channeling or otherwise. I continue to regard such suggestions, having written now almost a thousand pages on the subject, as insulting. There are, of course, people who believe and think that, and they are free to do so. I do not, so do not number me among them, and I believe that anyone with more than a passing familiarity with my work will understand and recognize that ET is not any factor in my methodological approach.


Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. paul de gagne on November 7, 2012 at 8:22 am

    That kaisar was an odd-vark well worth studying if one had the time. Ah so many books and so little time! The question is “out of the hundreds of thousands of books — Which Ones’ to Read? (let me know when you find out. I’d like to know? ha, ha!)

    Now if Time is Matter or Force then I would believe Jung’s Collective Unconscious as exposed in dreams is very real! In fact I believe how many (I don’t know) of these abductees had a very LUCID DREAM and didn’t know what the hell they were experiencing in the phenomonological world? So they come up in audiences and harash an Author’s Intentions.

    Farrell — maybe you should read Maurice Blanchot comments on TEXTUALITY concerning AUTHORITY? I think once one writes a book — THAT’S BABY’S GONE! ( meaning it’s then subject to the darn-awfulist interpretations!)

  2. Robert Barricklow on November 6, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    Ironic, in that you’ve exposed the “flying saucer” to be of terrestrial orgins.
    But the conscious mind has a very adapt story-telling mechanism to assemble, all the disparate parts – to match their worldview point.
    It’s an abracadbra kind of thing.
    If it doesn’t make sense or fit, just abracadbra it with a sprinkling of PRESTO!
    It works!
    Well, for some consciounesses, based on “faith”.

  3. Ken Lemon on November 6, 2012 at 12:23 pm

    No, the Nazis didn’t get anything from the ET’, but they were well ahead of anybody else as far as technology goes.

    So, where did they get it, well in my opinion they either read about it, or dug it up.

    Notwithstanding people like Kron were researching exotic stuff back in the late 20′, so who knows.

    • Ken Lemon on November 6, 2012 at 2:41 pm

      Oh I forgot to mention that Kerry Cassidy’ detective license has been revoked.

  4. LSM on November 6, 2012 at 7:15 am

    if people really believe Kerry Cassidy is nothing more than a mindless (or mind-controlled) twit, charlatan, disgrace-to-alternative-research, etc. (whatever label wants to brand her with), why do people continue to follow her website if she’s such a mindless bitch?-

    this makes no logical sense to me whatsoever-

    if you don’t like her, leave her to the wayside and just do your own thing- in other words: hit DELETE- or don’t even go there to begin with-

    this posting from me is anything but defending Kerry Cassidy; my point is (if anyone still hasn’t figured it out): if Cassidy is regarded as nothing more than a brainless, air-headed shill, why do people continue to access her website and try to defend themselves against her mindless implications?-

    you tell me- can’t wait for the answers (if any)- and if they come, then we’ll get into a REAL discussion-

    hope all are well- many regards-

    Larry in Germany

    P.S.: people have forgotten that the team Cassidy/Ryan gave Dr. Farrell, Peter Levenda, etc. a new huge window of deserved exposure- I initially became aware of Dr. Farrell and Levenda thanks to projectcamelot- Cassidy included

    • Robert Barricklow on November 6, 2012 at 3:41 pm

      Everyone loves the circus.
      Especially the clowns.

    • johnycomelately on November 6, 2012 at 4:57 pm

      Too much of her work seems to have an ‘off world’ agenda, very little of the nitty gritty type of research offered by the good Doctor.

      • LSM on November 7, 2012 at 6:38 am

        so if one doesn’t like her take on things then just ignore her- it never ceases to amaze me how many people who don’t care for her continue to source her website and then afterward complain about themselves being “lured into” something- you go figure it out

  5. p on November 6, 2012 at 6:50 am

    Miss Cassidy comes across in her interviews as tremendously naive and willing to immediately believe any piece of information if it seems to corroborate her personal beliefs. she does not understand rules of evidence, does not seem very intelligent and is unable to conduct a good interview. As long as her guest talks about channeling, alien encounters, government cover-ups she is happy.
    A complete twat.

    • LSM on November 7, 2012 at 1:44 pm

      the “complete twat” is the person who continues to source Cassidy and then complains about her

      • p on November 9, 2012 at 6:22 am

        who would that be?

  6. DaphneO on November 6, 2012 at 3:22 am

    Having listened to a few of KC’s shows, and watched the fallout between Bill and herself, I came to the conclusion that she believes she has a special gift of understanding. So many times she has said that she is “an intuitive” and “VERY intuitive”. I believe that was behind the falling out.

    This claim to a special understanding has been her downfall IMO.

    I have by no means read all Dr Farrell”s books but nothing I have read or listened to so far has given me the idea that his reasoning includes aliens. I understand that he does not dismiss them, but has found no proof as yet.

    Kerry’s twisting of facts here does nothing for her reputation. Perhaps she should examine where this special intuition comes frm?

  7. johnycomelately on November 6, 2012 at 3:04 am

    Given that Project Camelot, Red Ice Radio, Godlike Productions, Above Top Secret, David Icke, Cassiopeia and a host of others are obviously fake opposition is it any wonder they would misrepresent your work?

    An excellent video exposing some interesting characters.

    From this site

  8. Gail on November 6, 2012 at 1:07 am

    You and Tesla both me thinks! He would be deeply insulted by the opening paragraph you have quoted!

    The Alien-Reptilian-ET “narrative” appears to have been used as a psy-ops to cover up a host of Military Industrial and MKULTRa secrets and human rights violations……. it has run it’s course, along with Sitchin said to be a CIA agent and the whole Annunaki “narrative”based on misinterpretation of Sumerian Texts.

    I do believe that the root of this is a major archeological cover up of human history where in our past we were a highly evolved species [ I am betting not ETs] capable of flight and energy systems not based on fossil fuels. ……… which in turn when all is said and done seriously puts into question the Biblical History of humanity and in turn….. dare I add, the Vatican claim to Supreme Commander of God.

    The Annunaki agenda has proposed a Reptilian “superior” bloodline going back to Sumeria and oh golly gosh……… Babylon no less. The intent and purpose to convince us mere mortals that we are mere genetic by products and slaves created for their benefit and pleasure, …. again a psy ops designed to keep us in a mental time warp. And what is more, that all the Royal bloodlines are descended from this bunch! A NWO Jesuit propaganda exercise if ever I saw one!

    Trouble is, as John Anthony West has convincingly proved, the Sphinx due to water weathering can be dated to 50,000 B.C., which pre-dates our “Reptilian Annunaki Superior ETs” by a few thousand years. …

    • Enlil's a Dog on November 7, 2012 at 9:55 am

      I’m by no means a desciple of the late Mr Sitchen, but I would not dismiss the “alleged” origins or antics of the Sumerian/Babylonian Anunnaki as a bunch of Jesuit propaganda. In recent times I’ve been in contact with an Oxford Research Fellow of Assyriology (Dr Farrell is aware of my contact with this man) and whilst my contact with him has not surpassed that of traditional “academic” belief, he has alluded to in no uncertain terms that Assyriologys’ understanding of the Anunnaki is incomplete and in his words –

      “The origins of the Anunnaki are uncertain and extremely difficult to decipher..Reading the exploits of Enlil, Enki, Ninhursaga and Inana in their original Cuneiform is akin to reading a script from a soap opera. They present themselves to us as real human beings that are capable of real and genuine love and compassion whilst at the same time being capable of the most grotesque cruelty. It is difficult for some of us to reconcile what we believe to be a mythology with behaviour that can be seen in modern day families in modern day society and in humanity as a whole. The fact that the Anunna gods of Sumer and Babylon were deified and yet contain all the elements of real human behaviour has always been a mystery to many of us. There are some among us that readily equate the deification with the observable human behavioural qualities of mankind and that the Sumerians and Babylonians simply mimicked those human characteristics into their Pantheon, but there are others among us that do not so readily adhere to that line of thought”………Unquote!

      I may be reading something into that statement that is not there, but I got the impression from him that that comment was a clue to me that perhaps not all is what it appears to be in Babylon 🙂

      Ps, the Anunnaki were not reptilian. If they were, Assyriologists certainly don’t appear to be aware of it.

  9. Nidster - on November 6, 2012 at 12:55 am

    While I do not agree with every conclusion you have ever made, Dr. Ferrell, I do know you have been specific and very careful not to delve into the realm with those who speculate about some sort of contact with extraterrestrials to be responsible for the technological advances we have witnessed.

    How Kerry could come to those statements or arrive at her conclusions, after her interviews with both you and Igor Witkowsky, is beyond my understanding. I believe you were very clear that the evidence supported the conclusion that the Nazi’s developed their technology from the work done by EARTHLY physicists.

    Perhaps Kerry has mis-read her notes, or forgotten the video interviews and evidence. I’m sure once she re-visits the interviews and facts she will recant.

  10. Jon on November 6, 2012 at 12:21 am

    I firmly believe that KC has gone over to the dark side. Whether she is being mind controlled, played, or is just a turncoat, it is pretty obvious to anyone with any functioning brain cells that she is no longer presenting balanced material.

    As one who has read virtually everything you’ve written (well, almost anyway) I can safely say that you do not seriously consider that the Nazis got their tech from aliens.

    In fact, you argue most persuasively that their rapid advance came from being unshackled by the stodgy controls of academia, with great minds turned loose to study any and everything which showed promise. They made such huge progress because they were NO LONGER HELD BACK – which is a great takeaway lesson, and should make more people think about the whole structure of society.

    The whole alien-ET-saucer thing is a red herring, and one carefully chosen and heavily fed by the elite to lead people astray.

    Whatever good that woman once did, she has long since dropped the ball.

  11. MQ on November 5, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    Fear not, Dr.Farrell. Most of us already know that Kerry Cassidy is a complete twit-face who barely stops to catch her breath from pontificating her utter looney-ness. I personally feel she’s there to be a detractor. Her treatment of what you had stated in your books shows she’s either illiterate or is following some other strange agenda–I’m sure at least partially there to derail anyone with a clear proposition, devoid of intuition, channeling or the worship of little grey men.

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