When Dr. Scott de Hart and I were writing Transhumanism: A Grimoire of Alchemical Agendas,  we had long discussions on the implications of the the genetic technologies that we were seeing, along with nanotechnology and robotics.  Our conclusions were, I suppose, illustrated by the subtitle: what we were seeing was an alchemical agenda, an ascent back up the esoteric ladder from animal, to vegetable, to mineral, and finally, to androgynous immortal man. There was, we thought, an implicit underlying long-term goal: the technological end-run around mortality in all its forms.  It sounded crazy to us, and perhaps to those of you who read the book, it still does.

Well, now they are having conferences on which extinct animal species that they want to bring back:

Scientists Want to Bring Some Animals Back from Extinction

It does not take much imagination to see what the logical denouement of this trend will be, and it permits us to speculate. Suppose, for example, your "group" (Pick your favorite group: Christians, Jews, Muslims, Communists, Nazis, etc) has relics of its favorite prophets, leaders, or Messiahs, founders, and that among these are clear hints of DNA.

So why not "de-extinct" or "revivify" or "resurrect" Jesus, Mohammed, Moses, Stalin, Hitler? It would be Ira Levin's Boys from Brazil scenario gone global, technologically tailored "fulfillments" of your favorite messianic prophecy... and with enough money, well, cloning and memory downloads and virtual immortality for the wealthy.

Of course, all of that would depend on a provable, or at least, arguably plausible provenance for said relics that they were indeed relics of the famous or infamous people that they claimed to be...

...and that, of course, would imply a golden opportunity for some high shenanigans and creativity, for what was lacking in the record could always be forged...

And you thought Holy Blood, Holy Grail and The DaVinci Code were radical...

See you on the flip side.

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. electrodirector on April 4, 2013 at 6:50 am

    This technology must have originated BEFORE the powers-that-shouldn’t-be started the aluminium-barium-titanate-and-what-not poisoning of large parts of the planet. The application of ”chemotherapy” and other toxic crap counts as mass murder. Criminal rackets like inventing diseases or redefining existing ones into AIDS facilitate introduction of even more blatant murder methods. All these elements in the long run are very bad for organic life.

    So, probably in some deranged mind, the thought of having to eat even after the big victory over the unknowing masses, might have occurred. How convenient, being able to revivify your favorite steak supply…

    Better still, if the technology can be transported to other planets and put in function there. Replace the Martian reptiles and sauropods with cattle. Ads like:”Come on, get your own Insta-Beef steak machine and take it with you anywhere you go to steal, kill, and bring Judeo-Christian ideals and democracy!”

    On page 112 of Trevor Paglen’s I Could Tell You But … that patch reads TO SERVE MAN (over a lightbulb-headed greyling holding what looks like a B-2 bomber), below it reads GUSTATUS SIMILIS PULLUS (tastes like chicken).

    Whatever the intention, we now have been informed that the ptsnb have their own mobile food supply which cannot be tampered with the way they are doing it with what they’re selling to us as ”food”. Not as a fact, but you know what Napoleon said: ”My weapons are as strong as my opponent thinks them to be.” That’s the bluff a small bunch of criminals is applying to obfuscate their ridiculous numbers. Perception management. Being in the position they are, not to suppose they are the most closely watched group would really be Fulfordian in a way not even Wilcock could stoop (or bend over) to.
    I don’t really mean to offend Fulford/Wilcock. There are a lot of other bought-and-paid-for shills, these just do what they’re told. The more of a borderline case, the weirder the ideas.

    • Robert Barricklow on April 4, 2013 at 8:12 am

      I like to put it this way:
      The powers that were.
      Check out the Twilight Zone’s:
      To Serve Mankind (or google same)

  2. Nidster - on March 28, 2013 at 9:54 pm

    I always thought thought “Holy Blood, Holy Grail and The DaVinci Code” was an elaborate hoax, completely discredited. But, sure as the sun rises tomorrow someone will defend that book to their dying breath.

    So if some deranged group claimed to “de-extinct” or “revivify” or “resurrect” Jesus, what sort of deranged followers that would attract?

    • paul de gagne on March 29, 2013 at 2:22 am

      In a way they don’t even have to de-extinctify something or somebody ‘physically?” All they have to do is show it’s maybe ‘theoretically’ possible then everybody’s imagination gets all fired up!

      Perception Management is about the imagination.

      On Wall Street if someone spreads malicious gossip about a company then it’s stock value drops drastically even though its ACTUAL price should be rising. The PERCEIVED Wall St. (more like a dead end alley than a Street but I wont go into that. I agree with Farrell when he once said here that Wall St. use to be a ‘mechanism’ to gather up capital to form ‘PRODUCTIVE enterprises rather than all these Gyp-Joints now being formed to make you part with your hard-earned cash!)

      So there’s two Wall Streets? The real one and the almost-real (but real in a certain sense) perceived one.

      Same thing with all this retrieving the past. We have a PSYCHIC(perceived) one and a Real one! ( it gets a bit confounding because the —- ‘borders’— between a make-believe dinosaur in your mind and a real one in a laboratory can at times get pretty THIN????)

      Maybe the word thin is not the best one to use — very permenable or liminal is the better mis-spelt word? ( I remember Sartre the philosopher once stating that Art Work on the wall is only secondary and that the sic REAL or actual art work is inside the Creator – it’s lousy reproduction is then hung on up on dead-musium walls!)

      So one day we might have Pharoh roaming about but of course they wont call him that?

  3. LSM on March 28, 2013 at 6:12 pm

    if the concept is true that the minute a new technology is announced or introduced into the public domain it has already been around for 40-50 yrs. previously I think we can assume this kind of stuff is already happening, most probably in underground bases-

    if my read sources are correct something as harmless (?) as the bar code on commodities was already invented in the 50’s-

    then take the MSM reports that the Britsh sheep “Dolly” had been cloned in the 90’s-

    and if radio show host Peter David Beter is to be taken seriously, he stated in the late 70’s/early 80’s that many prominent people (back then) were replaced by “robotoids” (I guess we’d call that “clones” nowadays)-

    so taking it a step farther: if “airships” were already sighted over Germany during the mid-19th century let alone in the 1890’s in the US (source: “Covert Wars”) then I think we can safely assume someone, somewhere has always been waaay ahead in many aspects of what is finally reported in the media-

    and if my read sources are correct that Germans/Austrians were already experimenting with human cloning as far back as the 1920’s (are we to assume nobody got very far with this concept in 90+ yrs.?) I think we can safely assume that bringing animals back from extinction is probably already a done deal-


  4. johnycomelately on March 28, 2013 at 5:43 pm

    Certainly gives a new spin to that most interesting line, “Once was, now is not, and yet will come.”

    “The world will be astonished when they see the beast.”

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Enlil is lying embalmed in a sarcophagus squirreled away by some brotherhood awaiting for the allotted time when the technology would allow his resurrection.

  5. Frankie Calcutta on March 28, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    what if they reconstituted Jesus with some DNA from the Shroud of Turin and he turns out to look and act just like Woody Allen? That would be a game changer for a lot of people. There are millions of women in South America who worship Jesus just because he is so damn good looking. A neurotic, nebbish Jesus would be the death nail for Christianity. The death nail for southern baptists would most likely be a reconstituted Jesus who likes the rapper Snoop Dog.

    De-extincting cave bears and saber tooth tigers, and re-constituing Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano, Bruce Lee and a young Mohamed Ali and Mike Tyson would answer a lot of questions my friends and I had as children. Bruce Lee versus as cave bear in a fight? Who would win?

  6. marcos toledo on March 28, 2013 at 12:09 pm

    How about using this technology to resurrect all the human ethic groups the Europeans exterminated in the last five hundred years. That would go a long ways to make amends for their crimes. Overpopulation admit to the interstellar technology we have and let them leave the solar system and find a new home as far away for us as possible.

    • paul de gagne on March 29, 2013 at 8:33 am

      As usual Marcos,

      You seem to be right on the money. I think that was Job’s story. The so called Creator brought a new family into his life to make up for the first one that got destroyed in this terrible little test he was supposed to have been put through. Kind of a backdoor or underhanded remedy crying out for earthly JUSTICE!

      Now, I answer your fine suggestion of RESURRECTION through cloning with a question —- What if Job said to ????? “I don’t want another Wife. I just want Martha! (my words) The old one I had before! (I could add some more out of line or character with how Job is typically painted by saying:

      You screwed up God! (or what I imagine Farrell’s book to imply for I am guessing because I haven’t read it and it helps to read the ‘dam thing’ before one quotes from it, ha, ha!)

      Again, I am just guessing where its leading too. A rough place for Christian or even Jewish Fundamentalists! I say this is very naughty of Farrell for to attack one’s concept of god is a very low but probably very necessary BLOW!

      Call them Bankers and that works but dig at their religious beliefs and real harm is caused over the ages! Harm to who you may ask — that is certainly the question to ask for some good does come from/out religion.

      Most certainly not the kind of religion that barbaques people or even throws stones at them for differences of opinion about — you know …. matters of taste for example?

      I am not defending anyone. Just cheaply imitating the Bill Mather show, ha, ha!

  7. Robert Barricklow on March 28, 2013 at 11:15 am

    On extinction I’d propose:
    1) A real press of, for, and by the people.
    2) A Government of the people, for the people
    & by the people.

    The above extinct species’ resurrection,
    would be an enriching benefit to us all.

  8. QuietRiot on March 28, 2013 at 6:25 am

    Your punch line sentence has a spelling error.

    • Margaret on March 28, 2013 at 8:03 am

      G’morning QR, You’ve a sharp eye so early in the day! If you’re referring to Da Vinci it’s a small detail and, even so, everyone understands the reference. If it’s not, please enlighten the readers for I once heard Dr. Farrell say that he didn’t care to engage in pettifoggery 😉

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