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STRANGE GOINGS ON AT GIZA … AGAIN…

I have to blog about this one, shared with us by Mr. M.D., because this website has "Giza" in its very name. It seems Dr. Zahi Hawass, Egypt's former minister of antiquities, is under fire once again:

Former Egyptian antiquities minister faces questions over theft from pyramid

There's so much fuel here for high octane speculation I scarcely know where to begin, but perhaps here is as safe as any:

"In April 2013, the three Germans – two amateur archaeologists and a film-making accomplice – crept inside the inner sanctum of the Great Pyramid at Giza, the last the seven wonders of the ancient world to remain relatively intact.

"The trio, conspiracy theorists Dominique Görlitz, Stefan Erdmann and Peter Hoefer, wanted to show that the pyramid was not the final resting place of the pharaoh Khufu, as has long been accepted, but was in fact a relic of an even older empire.

"In an attempt to prove this, they scraped off part of the pyramid’s cartouche – the insignia that denotes for whom the pyramid was built – and took it back to Germany for testing. Following an international outcry, the samples were later returned, and the men put on trial in absentia – along with five Egyptian officials accused of helping them to illegally access the pyramid.

"All eight were convicted on Tuesday, after a trial in which the five officials claimed that it was in fact Hawass, a controversial former antiquities minister, who had facilitated the theft of the samples, during his involvement in a documentary about the cartouche in 2010.

Now for those who don't know what is being referred to, the "cartouche" in question are the only "hieroglyphics" ever discovered in the Great Pyramid, in the so-called "relieving chambers" above the so-called "King's chamber" in the structure. (Note the names of the chambers, more or less "official" within Egyptology, were chosen to emphasize the Pyramid's role as a "tomb" and to divert attention from any functional purpose such chambers may once have held, other than for some sort of bizarre funeral rites). The cartouches were "discovered" in the first half of the 19th century by British Colonel Howard Vyse, and the discovery was not without controversy, for it is the only written evidence within the Pyramid itself connecting it and its construction to the Pharaoh Khufu and hence, Vyse's cartouche conveniently confirms the standard Egyptological explanations.

There were, however, "problems," not the least of which was that Vyse, having made the discovery, prevented anyone from seeing it until he could translate it, and this has fueled speculations that he in fact wrote or forged the cartouche in its red paint, and then subsequently made the announcement of his discovery to the world. Matters weren't helped by the allegations of some, including well-known "alternative researchers" Zechariah Sitchin and Alan Alford, that the cartouche shows signs of egregious errors, errors no self-respecting Egyptian would have made. Then there's the location of the cartouche itself: in the "relieving chambers" above the King's Chamber, which, prior to Vyse's dynamiting a channel to them, would simply never have been seen. By anyone. At any time. Contrast this to the very visible and accessible hieroglyphs on other Egyptian monuments, and you get the idea: in spite of the best efforts of standard Egyptology to deny it, there is a problem, and it just won't go away. (Let's point out, too, that not all alternative researchers share the view that the Great Pyramid predates dynastic Egypt. Chris Dunn, Graham Hancock, and others, are perfectly comfortable with the standard Egyptological dating of the structure.)

How to resolve it? Easy: simply have the red paint carbon-dated to see how old it is.

But there matters get murky,for  at one time attempts to date the paint were consistently blocked (and, to be fair, who in the alternative research community would believe the results if, say, the dating came back with an ancient date consistent with a dynastic origin of the structure during the period of Khufu, and hence, ancient origin, for the cartouche? One can hear the debate, if such had happened, even now: Vyse somehow managed to get his hands on some real ancient Egyptian red paint and simply painted the cartouche, or the results and data were contaminated, or there was no real chain of possession in evidence from the Pyramid to the testing laboratory, etc etc.)

Why am I bothering you with all of this? Very simply: the article states that Germans were involved - allegedly with the collusion of Dr Hawass - in precisely such an effort to date the ink of the Pyramid's cartouche, and presumably show the paint to have been of recent origin, and hence, to discredit Vyse's discovery, thereby opening the way for the redating of the Pyramid to a far older time than that of ancient dynastic Egypt. Don't get me wrong here: I have huge problems with Vyse's cartouche, as do most people in the alternative research community(problems I detailed in Giza Death Star Deployed). And I am certainly of the opinion that the structure is older than dynastic Egypt. But the idea that Dr Hawass would be involved in such a project, when he has been a consistent defender of standard Egyptological dating for the structure and a consistent defender of Khufu being the pharaoh responsible for it, is to my mind absurd, unless there's an even bigger double game going on than one can imagine.

I do find it very interesting that, once again, one has the involvement of Germans in a major archeological question, concerning the oldest monument on Earth, and the tallest man-made structure in the world until the Eiffel Tower was built. In short, there's a major game going on behind the scenes at Giza, and once again, it concerns the question of just how old that structure is. And that's a major question, for if it is older then dynastic Egypt, then its function must be other than that to entomb a pharaoh or enshrine his ego in a vast building construction project.

See you on the flip side...

 

 

16 thoughts on “STRANGE GOINGS ON AT GIZA … AGAIN…”

  1. Having vented my frustrations as to the results of any tests done to the Khartuch I have to say after seeing the shoe on mars from the NASA picture of the curiosity mission to Mars and the devastation (ancient) that seems to be caused by the explosion of a neighboring planet( perhaps forming the inner asteroid belt) I begin to speculate that maybe there is a planet busting powersource and perhaps it has something to do with the resonance of the earth being manipulated by a pyramidic type structure. If so it could get scary and downright dangerous to expose such a force. Am I being ignorant,a intellectual coward,a fool,,,,I just couldn’t feel any more sad,lonely or empty looking at a Martians child sized shoe with a toy glider next to it in the carnage and thinking of a species,like our own, that co-existed with earth and now they are gone for all eternity,forgotten in the sands of time.

  2. We all know something monumental is hidden at Giza or was hidden at Giza. I have read that there are areas of Giza that are fenced/walled off and cannot be accessed. Why not? Also, it is obvious that there were pieces of machinery? that were removed from the Great Pyramid. Also, recently more and more pyramids have been found all over the world. Sounds like some kind of a power grid to me. Hawass has been a tool for a long time and has been in and out of the alternative history field as well.

  3. There is/was a great cache of knowledge hidden there in the distant past; not only within the structures themselves, but possibly in a hidden library. Whether it has been discovered or not most likely will forever remain a mystery. If not, when it is, no one but the elite will know about it as it will be spirited away the moment it is discovered. Most likely, there were several such caches on the planet at one time. After all, you don’t place all your eggs in one basket, if you’re smart; especially if you’re attempting to jump start civilization after a major planet wide catastrophe (or an inter-planetary war).
    My bet is there are also caches on the moon, mars, and several other planetary bodies within this system. This may be the very reason we haven’t visited the face on mars, you wouldn’t want to make a discovery like that unless you could be the one to recover the data. If it became public knowledge, the race would indeed be on for the prize.
    I would love to browse through the vast storehouses of the Vatican just to see what has been hidden away for “religious” reasons. I imagine the gold one would find there would be the least of the treasures…

  4. Dr. Hawass was paid by NatGeo during his tenure as Minister of Antiquities. He consistently blocked research. If he was involved it would be to confirm the absurd tomb theory. With closer inspection don’t the Germans usually appear? Interesting.

    1. Robert Barricklow

      NeoGeo?

      Now there’s a pedigree…
      as bonefide a harbinger of truth as Popular Science Magazine.

      Thanks for posting it.
      Another in a long list of infamous brand names.

      1. And don’t forget National Geographic.
        Who wouldn’t remember that farcical “documentary” when on Live (yeah, right) TV, they drilled through the Gantenbrink door and poked a camera through it. What did it reveal? Well, not much, at least not publicly. Chris Dunn certainly had some useful comments on what little could be seen in those grainy pictures.
        And this whole charade took place more than 10 years after Gantenbrink’s original discovery. What was going on in the mean time?

  5. Personally i think Dr Zawi IS German .. brown contact lenses .. a nose job and spray tan .. His real name is probably something along the line of Dr. Rudolph Von Strudel

  6. Ah!! .. Yes!! .. Hmm!! … a term i use very often (Ah! = attention grabbing .. Yes! = worthy of further investigation .. Hmm = why / what are “they” up to now ) .. Dr Hawass himself is as intriguing as the Kings Ante Chamber or the glyphs at Abydos .. Sometimes I feel as if I am in some kind of “time loop” and I often think I am .. This man has been fired .. charged .. refirred .. then charged only to be fired yet again .. yet STILL he maintains a tentacle or two slithering around the deeper mysteries of Giza .. He himself is becoming as mysterious as the entire Plateau itself ..

  7. I’m afraid there’s one part of this story that Joseph may not know. It concerns Robert Bouval, and what happened was, that when the story originally broke, it was Hawass that implicated Bouval in the conspiracy with the two Germans. There are plenty of radio interviews on the net, with Bouval, and he explains exactly what happened. Subsequently Bouval has now taken Hawass to court in Egypt, and I don’t know the result of the court case. Also after Hawass implicated Bouval, Bouval contacted the two Germans who were surprised to hear that Hawass had in fact accused Bouval of being part of the conspiracy. Now after Bouval had spoken to the two Germans, it appears that the Germans DID NOT take a sample of the red paint at all, but something entirely different. I cant verify what they took, but if you goggle Bouval for a radio interview I’m sure you will find it. Oh, I remember, he did an interview with Dr. Rita Louise on her “Justenergyradio” show, and the first part of the interview deals directly with this story.

    Yesterday I re-listened to one of George Ann Hughes interviews with Joseph, it’s culturaltransitions_13, and in this interview Joseph says that the Great Pyramid may have been the “TOWER” in the Tower of Bable moment, and just where did the original TOBM appear, well in Sumer of course.

    1. MORE INFORMATION REGARDING MY POST ABOVE:
      There is an interview with Robert Bouval on precisely this subject at Red Ice Radio, and you don’t have to be a member to listen to it.
      Just go to RIR and click on the radio tab and then click on the 2013 tab, it’s only one hour but it’s Bouval’ take on the whole story.

  8. It’s long past time to stop giving a rat’s ass what the “official” [perhaps “offal” is the better word] political line is. Why keep expecting the gatekeepers to tell the truth? They will not. Long past time to drop the need to gatekeepers of any kind. Do you expect NASA or JPL to tell the truth? Myself, I take it for granted that any official narrative is fraud, so let’s stop appealing to blatantly fraudulent authority figures.

  9. Dr. Hawass preforms the same function in Egyptology that Dr. Menzies served in debunking UFOs. And what are the Egyptians Antiquities complaining about they and their ancestors have been looting these structures for centuries. Do they fear their lies about Egypt’s true history might be revealed by these amateurs actions if and wend the paint is finally analyzed. Given rumors of mummies with traces of nicotine and cocaine use they have no legs to stand on as their house of lies collapses.

  10. The defenders of Blue Pill History have large budgets and with their MSM minion class spin stories left, right and sideways. There may have been another more intersting story that was obfuscated. But, to pull Dr. Hawass’s chain is indeed bizarre. And to mention that the Great Pyramid was not Khufu’s tomb is in itself sacralige.

    Red Pill historians know how insane that statement is. I want to see the giant milling machines that produced the “.0000” aerospace precision surfaces on the mega granite blocks!!! and the more interesting devices that moved them.. I’m sure Dr. Hawass knows more than he is telling. But, like many MS types he is bound by golden handcuffs and or threats of violence.

  11. Robert Barricklow

    The Giza “gatekeepers”, those that deny the “true history” of Giza remind me of the 9/11 gatekeepers. There are certain “buzz saw” issues that are verboden, except by the most intrepid of investigators. Those who search wherever the elusive truth leads, regardless of “Do Not Enter” signs of any nature. These investigators also have a built in cognitive map that has not been compromised by “education”.

  12. Well doc,,,I suppose the question remains,What’d they say was the carbon dating result,as long as they went to all the trouble to steal a chunk of history and were sentenced for their troubles,do I have to buy a book to find the answer?

    1. That was my first response also, if they had already taken it to Germany for testing, I find it hard to believe they didn’t go through with their plans before returning some of it.
      As for Zawi Hawass, I could see him being involved. I think he wants to know the truth, he just parrots the official line to keep his job. Why else all the strange goings-on around that plateau?

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