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RUSSIA AND CHINA TRYING TO MEDIATE BETWEEN SAUDI ARABIA AND IRAN

In the light of last Thursday's News and Views from the Nefarium, this story, while predictable, seems to be unfolding faster than I(or anyone else) can blog about it. You'll recall that in last Thursday's News and Views I mentioned, briefly, that the Iraqi Prime Minsiter, Mr. Abadi, had recently journeyed to Beijing, seeking Chinese help in rebuilding his country (hey, wait a minute, I thought that's what Mr. Cheney and Halliburton were supposed to be doing), and seeking Chinese military help in handling ISIS. Notably, he did not ask the West, or the USA for its help. As regular readers here know, last year I began to suggest that Saudi Arabia was "on the menu" and that if Mr Global wanted his bright shiny New World Order, it would be difficult to impossible to do so when radical Islamicism was in the picture. Similarly, I also suggested that the same probelm - Islamism - was a huge obstacle to China's :"silk road" scheme and its plans to build up central Asian infrastructure and high speed rail with Russia, connecting Asia and Europe.

In that context, consider these two stories that many regular readers here noticed and passed along:

Chinese envoy travels to Saudi Arabia, Iran

Russia ready to invite Saudi, Iranian FMs for talks: Reports

This was of course an entirely predictable move, and expect more of the same. But for our high octane speculations of the day, I want to recall the recent decisions of the Saudi regime to do two unprecedented things: (1) sell sovereign bonds, to make up for budget shortfalls due to the plunging price of oil, and (2) to take Aramco public, and sell shares in the oil and petroleum giant. There are all sorts of possibilities that these twin openings provide, for any country or group wanting to exercise influence over the internal and external policies of the desert kingdom. Imagine, for a moment, if Russia and/or China, were to buy large blocks of these securities or shares. Their ability to inject themselves as mediators in the growing tensions between Riyadh and Tehran would increase, and additionally legitimize their mediatory presence. Conceivably, it would also increase their diplomatic leverage vis-a-vis Turkey, which, as I suggested in Thursday's News and Views, constitutes a major problem for China vis-a-vis Turkish connections to terrorist cells in China's far west, and strategically located, Xinjiang province. Such a move might, at one level, be viewed as being counter to European and American interests in the region. But I also suggest (more high octane speculation here), that this would in effect constitute an open door of opportunity for the West to reinject itself and its influence in the region in a more balanced way, by way of a long tgerm reassessment of their relationships and policiies, especially vis-a-vis the Saudis and their abysmal human rights track record.

Time, of course, will tell if any of these ideas and speculations on possible future geopolitical and financial moves have any merit. That said, there is another high octane speculation lurking in the background as a possibility, and that concerns the demonstrations in Tehran that led to the firebombing of the Saudi embassy in the first place. Quite evidentaly, Iran, with its calls for swift prosecution of those involved, may not have been a willing party to the deed. And that raises the possibility that perhaps agents provocateur were in the crowd, and precipitated the event, to bring about the results that have since happened, namely, the break in relations between Tehran and Riyadh and the closure of the Saudi embassy. And if that be a possibility, then all sorts of further possibilities are immediately implicated in just who would benefit from such a "false flag" operation.

And here, the possibilities are endless.

In short, this is yet another one of those stories to watch in 2016.

See you on the flip side...

50 thoughts on “RUSSIA AND CHINA TRYING TO MEDIATE BETWEEN SAUDI ARABIA AND IRAN”

  1. never thought i’d see the day. hilarioius. if the bot-sassins were aiming at interrupting the subject, it worked. Dammit Jim (or Joe) you’re a doctor (not a miracle worker). ok that’s a way twisted out of context star trek reference.

    either way, doc, who cares? we’re getting the general idea. type (or typo) on man. and see if you can find a neighbor kid you trust under 18 to work over your systems and find you better more basic more trustworthy software (and maybe hardware). and yeh, you’ll probably owe this kid the rest of your life so you might as well adopt him and bring him up in your image.

    meanwhile i do get kitona’s point. just not that worried about it. relatively speaking, we’re all clear that intelligence (and education) is relative.

    so back at the outhouse, thinks are piling up…..

    1. nice map gosh. gets me to thinking. if there’s anything to the abiotic oil source and regenerating fields (and apparently the russians have already experienced replenished otherwise exhausted fields after 40 years sitting fallow) then perhaps that splains some of the increased effort over proven reserves. perhaps proven reserves are the only reserves and their value is forever.

      i wonder. what would people be like if they suddenly learned that we all live forever. hmm. that might affect more than just how many people i’m going to cut off in traffic.

      so yeh, these are all excellent points. interesting to note china’s new next ghost city aiming at 130 million. chris chappel on china uncensored clarified passingly well how china’s 10% growth in gdp is easy when they throw wantonly useless and unused construction into the mix. which tells us they have plenty of butter and butter building capability to throw around that way more than trumps most of the guns being thrown around by the west

      so yeh iran, iraq, syria…. you get your choice. we can either kill people wantonly, eventually give you a nuke and grow 90% of the world’s opium in your country (and give you some really sweet $32 million inoperable gas stations) or we can build some infrastructure (like humongous railroad and road and water supply and and and…. infrastucture) in your country. oh yeh. and we’ll bomb the crap out of (oops neutralize) your insurgents in 2 weeks instead of going on 13 years.

      1. ZDB, on the Chinese ‘ghost’ cities: The Chinese government DID need to prop-up their construction and resource industries as long as possible. Voilà: new cities, dams, tunnels, bridges, etc.

        However, the Chinese are also smart and have a long-term view of history. If I remember correctly, all the new ‘ghost’ cities are a ways above sea level. Do they ‘know something’ historically? Or, are they simply reacting to the threat of ‘tsunami warfare’? Intriguing…

    2. so yeh. button hits a nerve well there, right? how useless is saudi? and what do you do when the bad guys are still coming at you and your 357 just ran out? well that thing does way a ton and is made of steal.

      so mr global throws the saudi regime at iran (and all iran’s friends). it’s just the same false flag/provocateur tripe on a fractal (aka huge) scale.

      that can gum up some works. and justify some way more twisted strategy than the junk we’ve become used to. and at the same time provide all sorts of cover for domestic shortfalls in each home land insecurity.

      oh no, our currency didn’t devalue because we printed magnitudes of order too much of it. no no no. we’re just feeling a little weimarish and paying $15/gallon for gasoline because of that damn middle east situation. oh if we could just get some sane catholics and protestants to take over for the shia and sunnis.

      btw, any of you guys ever read chris fogarty about the irish holocaust. sop for mr global. off topic for now. would love to see you bring that into the fold of the brit royals and their influences with mr global doc. i know the brit royals would enjoy nothing better (unless of course you raised jimmy saville from the dead for a party with them)

    3. so doc and all,

      please concur and/or splain

      what we’re seeing here are the end stages of the militarists siphoning off the mfg and resource wealth of the west and channelling them into weapons to try to do the same to the east. and at some point running out of justifiable returns on investment to keep going. after all how much slave labor can genocidal maniacs use in one or two generations?

      the changes in resource play seem inevitable as whatever next gen energy and mfg tech comes along. maker spaces are popping up everywhere. rossi’s ecat seems inevitable. there’s probably unlimited ways to skin that free or almost free energy cat. how long can mr global keep that many thumbs on that many ideas?

      so as what comes around and then goes around how do we small players stay around and out of the way of the thrashing giant vampire squid that is mr global as he dies or passes his nasty baton?

      1. btw. hope no-one takes offense at the high level literacy here. i do understand how much easier it is to read fast with perfect editing. kinda like the train of thought mode though for writing and reading.

        and doc, any time you want proofreading, i’m available. i’m actually skilled at such work. hard part would be not contacting gosh robt walkingdead and all about what you pass my way.

  2. Good article:
    theintercept dot com/2016/01/06/one-map-that-explains-the-dangerous-saudi-iranian-conflict/

    “In fact, much of the conflict can be explained by a fascinating map created by M.R. Izady, a cartographer and adjunct master professor at the U.S. Air Force Special Operations School/Joint Special Operations University in Florida.

    …almost all the Persian Gulf’s fossil fuels are located underneath Shiites. This is true even in Sunni Saudi Arabia, where the major oil fields are in the Eastern Province, which has a majority Shiite population.

    As a result, one of the Saudi royal family’s deepest fears is that one day Saudi Shiites will secede, with their oil, and ally with Shiite Iran.

    The same tension explains why Saudi Arabia helped Bahrain, an oil-rich, majority-Shiite country ruled by a Sunni monarchy, crush its version of the Arab Spring in 2011.”

    1. As a fan of Mission Impossible, I watched the latest DVD/movie.
      The Mission Impossible team’s identity is signified by IMF.
      Interesting[have to continually adjust spelling bot] Chinese wise. They are portrayed as both the good/bad guys simultaneously.

  3. A controversial website author – whose name sounds like ‘Gem Stone’ – posited that the Saudi murder of the peaceful Shia cleric was a deliberate ‘ploy’ to provoke an Iranian ‘blowback’. This, in turn, was to be used to fuel the ‘Iranians can’t be trusted’ and the ‘Iranians should be bombed for their own good’ camps. He was sad that the Iranian public (indeed, maybe through provocateurs) fell into this ‘trap’ by the burning of Saudi embassy buildings.

    Hmmm; a thought. If the Saudis and the Iranians can be induced to take each other out, which Middle East country most benefits?

    1. I wholly concur. Whatever the appearances may be superficially, Iran is the ultimate target for destruction in this theater; the Saudis are merely a useful tool that is rapidly approaching obsolescence.

  4. If the Germans can sort out that new reactor we might have some peace in the oil fields.
    Those Germans are a cagey bunch. I worked in Berlin for 6 months and though they hide it well those Germans have a superiority complex. Don’t get me wrong they have stuff to be proud of, (don’t mention the war), but try living with them.
    I thought I’d escape the arrogant bastards for a while on an island in Thailand but there they were telling everyone how things should be and booking out all the massage tables.
    We should be able to tell if it’s running by the tone of their foreign relations and that smarmy grin they get.

    1. LMAO…
      I spent 30 years in the aerospace industry and had to occasionally work with German Companies and their employees over the years and I can appreciate your comments. I have to admit though they sent some sharp people over here to interface with us on projects, you just had to overlook the attitude. It was always good to show them they weren’t as smart as they thought they were where our products were concerned.
      It’s the French you have to watch out for. They have very sticky fingers and aren’t above a little corporate espionage.

  5. If the West’s financial infrastructure is being used than China/Russia and the rest of the BRICSA are going to be manipulated against each others interests. That infrastructure simply cannot be trusted, except to do harm.
    It must be done within the confines of a financialized structure of their own design and construction. Even then, be ever vigilant.

  6. This planet has been collateral for centuries since the rise of Christianity and Islam. A irony of history since both religions are against usury supposedly. At least Russia and China are trying to referee in the Sunni-Shia conflict which as usual the shadow masters have either created or are using to what ever twisted purpose and fantasy that serve their interest.

  7. kitona, give the guy a brake! (& for that matter anybody ELSE ,holy shit ! Lol ) mr. perfect Lol hehe WTF !!! EVERYBODY makes mistakes … spelling nazi 🙂 Lol …no words 4 u Oops

  8. “that raises the possibility that perhaps agents provocateur were in the crowd, and precipitated the event, to bring about the results that have since happened, namely,” works for more than just what is happening in the Middle East. We see the same thing happening, I believe, in the USA as well with the “staged” takeover in Oregon and the BLM. Mr. Global has an old play in his playbook and is using it worldwide for many things. Gun control/confiscation in Amerika as well as pressure on the Saudi’s to comply with their agenda.
    Intelligence has used the insertion of agents provocateur to control opposition throughout history. False flags are a form of controlled opposition, as well; just more of the problem/solution ploy.
    Their agenda is accelerating as more people realize what is really happening and the endgame nears.
    Virtually the entire world is indebted to the money lenders with everyone and everything used as collateral for that indebtedness. They are now in the process of foreclosing on the planet. Your insight in how they are managing this in Saudi Arabia is correct. It also applies to what is happening in Amerika with the BLM and its land grab in order to sell the resources beneath that land to China or anyone else buying. We see this happening everywhere, worldwide.

  9. “Sild Road”…”recetn”…”woould”…”locatedd”…”long tgerm”…”policiies”…

    That is about 6 typos in the span of about 3 paragraphs. I enjoy the work of Dr. Farrell as much as anybody but, frankly, the consistency of the mis-spellings does (albeit only slightly) undermine his credibility. Moreover, given the Dr.’s frequent rants about the deplorable state of American education he should be doing a better job of setting a good example for the young students of today.

    It seems clear that Dr. Farrell does not re-read his work even once before posting. Hiring an editor is probably too much to ask, however, I found it interesting that I had difficulty even recreating the typos above because the auto-correct feature kept fixing them.

    Otherwise, keep up the great work!

    1. Ouch…
      It has become more noticeable lately; my assumption was it may be due to time constraints. He has a lot on his plate. Why the spellcheck feature doesn’t catch these typo’s is a mystery that needs to be solved; I’m sure he relies on it, as most of us do, who use word processors.
      As much as I dislike criticizing Dr. Farrell on this, Kitona does have a valid point.

      1. I would point out that his use of satire in the obvious misspelling of certain words is well within literary license and is acceptable. I believe these are all understood by his readers.

          1. Before the dictionary was invented a hundred years or so ago phonetics was used to spell out words. Many words had several acceptable ways of not only being pronounced but also spelled. Being a creative and out of the box thinker that I am, I still practice and appreciate the original tradition. Those clowns with a superiority complex and a desire to control and limit language morphology and their modern college educated disciples aren’t going to make me disappear sheepishly off the web pointing out my creative liscence in spelling and speaking:-) Though when I attempt to write fantasy and syfy novels I do try my best to make them as publishable as I can. Only wrote and self published one book so far, DEMON’S BANE FOLLY. It was turned down by all the main publishers and has only sold a few dozen copies, mainly family and friends.

      2. I agree – and thanks for having the courage to bring it up. I don’t mind the spelling mistakes so much as we all make typos now and then, and I do appreciate sarcasm, but it’s the same old sarcasm, over and over. What is written here can sometimes be utterly fascinating but having to deal with purposely misspelled words/names is unnecessarily distracting, IMO.

          1. On some web forums and news sites, especially yahoo I have had similar problems and assumed I was being hacked or targeted for my political speech. My sister had the same issues with her computer the whole time she lived in one apartment with a certain internet provider address. when she moved to another apartment with a different internet provider her computer magically stopped mistyping the wrong letters to the wrong key strokes intermittently.

      3. These were COMPUTER generated errors due to my computer freezing as I was typing and then spitting out letters and reversing some. I have been having such problems for some time, and type very quickly and often don’t notice the computer is freezing when I do. When this happens, the spell checker does NOT function. Additionally, on my admin page I do not have USE of a spell checker anyway, so must always proof things, and as anyone who has ever written will tell you, it’s next to impossible to catch all of one’s own typos.

          1. Joseph, in that regard, it might be worthwhile to check if that article was ‘accessed’ between the time you finished with it and the time it was posted. You might even be able to backtrack and find out ‘who’ that accessor was…

        1. It’s a given in this atmosphere.
          as Sherlock Holmes has written/When you have eliminated the impossible, what ever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.
          We’ve all been there and done that…
          No question…
          (see Below)

    2. It’s easy to read what is being said.
      Many times it is sarcasm.

      When an artist studies his craft he goes through many steps and years of experience to become a master. But to truly be an artist, one has to disregard all his teachings and accepted dogma, and break the mold.
      Create.
      Art is a lie that brings us nearer to the truth.
      Dr. Farrell personifies bringing us closer to the truth.

      1. I was reading an interesting article on how Microsoft is intentionally breaking Windows 7 and 8 in order to force you to update to Windows 10. No doubt the intelligence community is behind this somehow, since the new version works well for their interests and intelligence is heavily invested in his product. As I have disabled automatic updates, I don’t seem to be suffering some of the problems others I know are having recently, especially with their browsers.
        Don’t know if the spellcheck malfunction is part of this or not, but it seems more likely a malfunction of the software. I know when I type fast I tend to make more errors, and I’m sure this is part of it; however, any decent word processors spellcheck should correct this on the fly or at least give you the wavy red lines as an indicator. I don’t believe the good doctor is intentionally leaving errors in his work of this nature.
        Something may be amiss.

        1. You’ve got it! These were COMPUTER-generated errors, and happened AFTER I had scheduled the post to post. I wish people would credit computer errors more than the author. My WORST case was Reich of the Black Sun. I diligently went through the book, proofed it, corrected it, and when the book came out, errors had been ADDED that weren’t even there in the text I corrected and sent to the publisher!

          1. I am in the habit of using Word or an equivalent to write responses, then copy and paste before submitting. Granted I sometimes make errors too because of haste, but on occasion I have noticed that what I post is not the same as what I’ve written in the original document. The changes are often subtle and not substantial, but an occasional misplaced or dropped word can alter the intent or perception of the whole article. For this, and other reasons, I respond less these days and do more listening. I am not trying to be overly paranoid, but we are dealing with layered technologies doing their thing–bots, trojans and all! For this we all have to express a little tolerance. And, patience.

    3. Kitona… I have been having BAD computer problems, and I’m sure you hava had occasions where your computer stops, freezes while you’re typing, and are unaware of it, and then spits out gobs of letters. This happens to em often. I simply am under a crush of time I SELDOM have adequate time to do any ADEQUATE proofing, and if you wrote you would find that one can NEVER adequately proofread oneself. If this bothers you, or my lack of time and lack of funds to hire an editor or fix the computer problems bothers you, I’m very sorry. These were COMPUTER generated problems and I simply cannot CATCH all of them. When you deal with the volume of material and writing I do, and do so consistently for several years and without ANY assistance, I urge you to do so typo-and error-free.

      1. To be honest, it wouldn’t surprise me if you weren’t under some kind of subtle hack attack by the intelligence community. Your site can’t be very popular with them and their globalist owners.
        This is pretty much what Microsoft is doing to force the upgrade to Windows 10.

        1. Yes Walking Dead.
          Microsoft basically scrapped Windows XP.
          They will do the same thing with Windows 7 up through windows 10. They purposely make you change. Typical monopoly behavior for Microsoft.

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