Yesterday, you'll recall, the subject for our discussion and high octane specualtion was the recent German Defense Ministry designating Russia as the principal military threat, this amid other stories about Germany's intention to re-vivify the Bundeswehr and bring it back up to Cold War standards of size. As I noted yesterday, for the short term, this seems to indicate that Germany is content to play satrapy to the American Empire, but as I also noted, there are those who think the Franco-German armaments corporation mergers, and the Franco-German calls for a pan-European military, are really about side-stepping NATO and putting an end to, or at least diminishing, US influence over Europe. It could equally be argued, as I observed yesterday, that such a step would also make it easier for the USA to influence Europe - easier to influence and use one, than many -  and that there was little middle ground between these extremes.

It is in that spirit and context that I propose to speculate upon another story that emerged last week and which many regular readers and contributers of articles sent various versions of. Consider this story of current moves to place the German Bundesnachrichtendienst (or BND) under US CIA "influence" and, some would say, control:

The story, and the interpretation here, is fairly conventional: this is yet another demonstration of Germany's and therefore Europe's, subservience to the USA, and is nothing less than a kind of "corporate takeover" of the BND by the CIA:

According to a news report in the June 7th German Economic News (Deutsche Wirtschafts Nachrichten, or DWN), headlined “Merkel entmachtet BND: USA kontrollieren Spionage in Deutschland” or “Merkel Ousts BND: US to Control German Espionage,” a new law will soon be passed in the German parliament and be approved by Chancellor Angela Merkel, which will make Germany’s version of the CIA, the Bundesnachrichtendienstes (BND), nothing more than a branch of the CIA, to such an extreme degree, that even U.S. corporate espionage against German companies will become part of that ‘German’ operation. The independent capacities of the BND will become emasculated, no longer operational, under the new law. 

“In practice, this means that the US intelligence services [NSA] will be allowed to continue to listen in on every company and every individual in Germany.”

(That includes the Chancellor herself, whose phone-conversations were previously embarrassingly revealed to have been listened-in upon by the NSA. Now it’ll be legal.)

And all of this, it is claimed, is part of the buildup for a global confrontation with Russia:

This could be part of the West’s buildup toward a global war. According to a report issued on June 6th in German Economic News, the German government is preparing to go to war against Russia, and has in draft-form a Bundeswehr report declaring Russia to be an enemy nation. DWN said there: “The Russian secret services have apparently thoroughly studied the paper. In advance of the paper’s publication, a harsh note of protest has been sent to Berlin: The head of the Foreign Affairs Committee of the Russian State Duma, Alexei Puschkow, has posted this Twitter message: ‘The decision of the German government declaring Russia to be an enemy shows Merkel’s subservience to the Obama administration.’”

To be sure, the signs of hostility and of potential action against Russia are there for all to read. The globalists of the Anglosphere simply cannot stand Mr. Putin's Russia and its independence, and its questioning of their favorite dogmas. Nor can they stand the Orthodox civilization, but that is another story, with much deeper and much older roots. Suffice it to say that it began when the Mr. Global of the day, in the form of the papacy, began to assert genuinely global claims, which, then as now, were contested by the Orthodox world. The claims, and the agenda, were false; the church was not a corporation sole, and the papacy was not its CEO.  From this long view of history, not much has changed.

But to return to the article and the story, I cannot help but have an odd sense and feeling of deja vu here, for as anyone familiar with my books covering the post-war dealings of various Nazis and their institutions, this story has all the hallmarks of General Reinhard Gehlen's "dream deal" with American intelligence gurus of the World War Two era. That deal, you'll recall, kept the entire Nazi military intelligence apparatus on the Eastern Front, the Wehrmacht's Fremde Heere Ost, intact, with Gehlen still at its head, and simply made it subservient to the soon-to-be-created CIA.

The official narrative was, of course, that Gehlen's outfit, which, let it be noted, was converted into the BND upon the assumption of West German sovereignty, was controlled by the CIA. Thus, it was the CIA that sponsored the overthrow of Mossadegh in Iran, of King Farouk in Egypt(and of Arbenz in Guatemala). But the reality of that narrative was that the CIA's "boots on the ground" in the first two affairs were Nazis. General Farmbacher, former Reichbank president Hjalmar Schacht, SS commando Otto Skorzeny, former Goebells propaganda ministry official von Leers, were all implicated in the anti-Farouk coup. Similar German intelligence assets in Iran were "networked" in the Mossadegh coup, and as I have argued elsewhere, even Lee Harvey Oswald's stay in the Soviet Union probably was coordinated operationally by General Gehlen's BND.

And meanwhile, of course, the "subservient" Gehlen organization was busy compiling analyses and threat assessments for Mr. Truman, which, as Christopher Simpson noted in his well-known book Blowback, were sometimes simply retyped on CIA stationary and handed to Mr. Truman, giving us the ironic picture of an anti-Nazi US President being briefed, unbeknownst to him(?), by a Nazi General.

All of which leads us to the question of why American intelligence would seek such a "deal" with Frau Merkel's BND, and why she - or any other self-respecting German government - would acquiesce to it. From the American point of view, if the suspicions about German(and French) intentions are anything close to what I and others have been arguing, namely, that the pan-European military is a pivot to bypass NATO and American influence over European policy, then keeping an eye on the premier economic power of Europe, and the vast military potential this power represents, would be a good idea. Indeed, the vowel-impaired Zbgnw Brzznsk noted in his book THe Grand Chessboard that NATO was as much about curbing German power as it was Soviet power. Additionally, Germany has maintained strong commercial ties to various counties in the Middle East, such as Iran, and where are, as noted, strong historical and intelligence ties between Herr Gehlen's "organization" and the elements of secular and radical Islam. Again, a good idea to have as many intelligence assets inside the camp of the presumed enemy as possible.

So what's the possible German benefit here? I suspect - and suspect strongly - that by renewing the old arrangement between the CIA and the BND(for that's what it appears to be), that the influence might not be the one way street that most analysts are assuming it will be. America's CIA may "control" the BND, as it once did under Gehlen, but that "control" led to a two-way street, with Gehlen's organization feeding intentionally distorted and fabricated data and analyses to the CIA, data and analyses which went a long way toward fashioning American policy.  If anything, the "deal" left Gehlen's organization with a measure of influence over American politicians and politics that it would never have had otherwise.

Thus, I have the feeling of deja vu here, for while Germany once again appears, on the surface, to be caving in to American pressures, the reality of this dynamic, if the past is to be any guide, does not bode well.

And we all know whose game plan all this was...

See you on the flip side...

Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. LSM on June 13, 2016 at 5:06 pm

    am not sure how much power the CIA has anymore; has its power gone to the National Security Agency? (a clever over the years bait-and switch?)-

    I don’t know- you tell (inform) me-

    Larry in Germany

    • T.J. on June 13, 2016 at 6:43 pm

      @lsm: Even during 1980s (when I was an NSA contractor for off-the-shelf telecom products), the NSA budget was many times the size of CIA budget.

      Now the U.S. Director of National Intelligence (DNI) supposedly controls both NSA and CIA (etc.).

      Before becoming VP in 1980 and Prez in 1988, Daddy Bush was “Director of Central Intelligence” or DCI (for CIA etc.). Bush-Clinton/NeoCons hired & appointed most U.S. intel guys & gals until Obama became Prez.

      Bush CIA, Saudis, Israelis & Turks inserted agents provocateur into Syria in 2011 to murder BOTH peaceful protesters AND Syrian police.

      Obama & U.S. military opposed much of what Bush/CIA was doing, and they now mostly work with Putin & Russian military to eliminate ALL terrorists in Mideast — with significant Bush/Clinton CIA ‘pushback.’

      Subsuming BND under CIA is a bold move – to be opposed by many. Those in U.S., Germany & elsewhere who favor WW3 will soon be disappointed.

      • zendogbreath on June 13, 2016 at 9:16 pm

        interesting take tj. have heard similar white hat arguments made about naval intel vs cia.

    • Vader_Etro on June 13, 2016 at 11:13 pm

      If a jayvee team puts on Village attire that doesn’t make them Number 6.

  2. Paul D. on June 12, 2016 at 11:30 pm

    • Don B on June 13, 2016 at 7:35 am

      Great article. Connects even more dots. Remember Tim Geithner father and Obama’s mother worked for the Ford Foundation with possible connections to the cia, and both were involved in Indonesian affairs. hmmm

    • Vader_Etro on June 13, 2016 at 5:25 pm

      Just an excellent recommendation Paul D. The subject is making a heckuva buzz elsewhere.

    • LSM on June 15, 2016 at 2:53 pm

      just as an aside: if one had read and believes Peter Levenda’s “Ratline” Adolf Hitler ended up in… Indonesia

      Larry in Germany

      • Vader_Etro on June 16, 2016 at 12:14 am

        Yes, a point not to be forgotten should one obtain the book discussed in the article.

  3. Pellevoisin on June 12, 2016 at 11:19 pm

    There was a time not long ago when most people I knew regarded the West German intelligence as a subsidiary of the CIA, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Fascist International.

    Making this relationship so very public tells us a great deal about the Nazi International and their current sense of their brand and their self-perception of their own strength.

    The cockroaches are losing their fear of the light.

  4. Gail on June 12, 2016 at 9:36 pm

    All I see is a WW2 repeat. And the more I learn the more I have come to one conclusions. The Nazis and the Stalinists are J.P.Morgan and Rockefeller. They are neither the Germans nor the Russians. The BND is the CIA and the CIA is the BND and always has been, originally spawned by Allen Dulles. Any separation between the tow is a misconception. Europeans are being used again for the third time to bring down Russia. If J.P.Morgan and Rockefeller are so dang determined, why don’t they leave Europe out of it for a change and be boys. Attack from Alaska. Oh ut that would mean them getting their hands dirty for once right? This is a good article that will wipe away any delusions anyone might have. Hitler Was Financed by the Federal Reserve and the Bank of England

    They are taking us all to war. However, I do think Russia will come out with an unseen left hook this time. I do not think they will attack Europe, I think this time they will directly attack the source of the problem. Good luck with that. I would not go near New York, Washington D.C. or Patagonia right now.

    • marcos toledo on June 13, 2016 at 1:01 am

      Thanks Gail and Paul for the links though Gail the war against Russia goes back to Napoleon and further back if you have view the tv series Vikings from the first episode.

  5. goshawks on June 12, 2016 at 6:13 pm

    “Your comment is awaiting moderation.” With the new, Today-Only ‘comments section’ policy, my comment will never show up as even having existed. Effective…

    goshawks – June 12, 2016 at 6:10 pm.

    • Robert Barricklow on June 13, 2016 at 3:13 pm

      Just make a comment in today’s blog[whatever today is].
      You know, my comment is now up for view/enjoy.
      I really enjoyed seeing it appear and would just click it on.

      • zendogbreath on June 13, 2016 at 9:10 pm

        not a bad idea robert

  6. goshawks on June 12, 2016 at 6:10 pm

    First of all, nothing of this importance originated anywhere near various political bodies. It came straight out of the entities (definitely not human: no humanity) behind the bankster establishment.

    I would also note that this BND-coup is brewing after ‘Anonymous’ claims to have hacked the Fed, the BIS, and other major financial institutions. As I have said before, the one thing the banksters will not tolerate is any infringing on their financial control.

    Personally, I take this BND-coup as a response to the Anonymous threat. Globalization of alphabet agencies improves their odds of tracking down Anonymous. With the “Gehlen’s outfit” connections mentioned by Dr. Farrell, this might point to attempts to track Anonymous within Russia…

    As a minor sub-speculation, I could see this BND-coup as recognition that part of the threat comes from within Germany. Effectively taking-over the BND puts ‘boots on the ground’ right in Germany. A clumsy move, but likely a knee-jerk reaction to higher-ups having their financials exposed to the limelight…

    • Guygrr on June 13, 2016 at 12:11 pm

      Yessss, exactly what I’m thinking. Anonymous cannot be ignored. Reminds me of the latest and upcoming seasons of Homeland, an underground hacker group penetrates the CIA through the BND… They wear masks…lol

  7. Nookeeler Weapons on June 12, 2016 at 6:04 pm

    All of this concurrent with the soccer riots in France. English vs Russian fans of course, and now onto a third day of head-stomping barbarism. If there were ever fertile ground for agents provocateurs to whip up conflict and divisiveness between Europeans and Russians, it would be in the herd mentality of these intoxicated hooligans.

  8. DownunderET on June 12, 2016 at 4:54 pm

    This just another indication that Frau Merkel is being blackmailed. The US MUST have some dirty laundry on her, because her actions just don’t seem right. She is getting backlash from the German people and there is no doubt that the German people will NOT like this joining of two dangerous organizations.
    So now the CIA has a European brother, and the skullduggery will continue on a much grander scale, and without doubt Mr. Putin has put into place some policy to cover this marriage of morons.

    • Nookeeler Weapons on June 12, 2016 at 5:46 pm

      I can’t help but think about that low-speed skiing “accident” that Merkel had 2 years ago. The one that broke her pelvis and had her walking around in crutches.

    • T.J. on June 12, 2016 at 6:11 pm

      Frau Merkel’s popularity in Germany is at an all-time low. Frau Merkel is NOT stupid. So, in part, I agree with you.

      The joint U.S./Nazi/Bolshevik/Rothschild fascist group may control both U.S. AND Germany. Especially Frankfurt, City of London & Wall St., which are the last hold-outs against geopolitical peace & economic abundance.

      • zendogbreath on June 13, 2016 at 9:08 pm

        that makes it sound like vlad and bibi are not under their influence as well?

  9. T.J. on June 12, 2016 at 2:26 pm

    Joseph et al: So, Gehlen & Nazi International make a deal that enables them to effectively take over CIA, NASA & U.S. after WW2. Later or contemporaneously joined by Rothschild Bolsheviks to form U.S. Bush/NeoCons (who co-opt Clinton/NeoLibs) to do and/or cover up 9/11, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya & Ukraine — to try to ‘do’ Syria, then Iran, then Russia & BRICS.

    Yet, for now, Russia & BRICS-aligned nations (and substantial portions of EU & Asia) are stymying the U.S./Nazi/Bolshevik alliance to prevent WW3 and to pave the way for geopolitical peace and economic abundance.

    So now, the joint U.S./Nazi/Bolshevik/Rothschild group intends to take over the BND and EU to do WW3 against Russia etc. For now, they are losing.

    Except for whistleblower-alleged but unproven alliances with hold-outs from the Secret Space Program and their ‘strange’ allies, what’s missing?

    • Robert Barricklow on June 12, 2016 at 3:21 pm

      Your perspective is refreshing TJ.
      Now, take the airwaves back…

      • Robert Barricklow on June 12, 2016 at 3:25 pm

        …and line the pressitutes up against the wall…
        to be shot…
        their group criminal mug shots, that is.

  10. Aridzonan_13 on June 12, 2016 at 1:41 pm

    SPECTRE sprung out of the Nazi diaspora after the war. It had units in the US, SA, Europe and the Middle East. It accomplished much as a pan national state. We have our present globalist disaster to lay at their feet.

    I’ve been morbidly courious about the schlock “Iron Sky” series. Where Nazis in outter space are waiting to return. It would be a laughable idea if there wasn’t $4.4T MIA at DOD..

    • goshawks on June 12, 2016 at 6:37 pm

      You bring up an interesting thought: What if there are ETs out there whose system/society is NOT remotely based on money (or its equivalent)? How would it interact with one so permeated/controlled by money?

    • Guygrr on June 13, 2016 at 12:06 pm

      How about a war chest of $300 trillion at their disposal?

  11. Robert Barricklow on June 12, 2016 at 12:31 pm

    Where are there any General Smedley Butlers’ when you need them?

    • T.J. on June 12, 2016 at 2:56 pm

      The General Smedley Butlers of today from around the world are alive & well — and living at (“Journal for the Clandestine Community”). Many Smedley-Butler-type articles & action at that site.

      The Bush-Clinton/NeoCons had co-opted much of the CIA & U.S. military. Obama & most in U.S. military now quietly cooperating with Putin & Russian military to eliminate ALL terrorists in Syria etc. (even the ‘moderate head choppers’ formerly supported by Bush-Clinton/NeoCons etc.

  12. marcos toledo on June 12, 2016 at 11:36 am

    Breaking dancing to Armageddon-Gotterdammerung-Ragnorak. When has the CSA really been the masters of their fate sock puppets from their birth to their planned death. Which devils do these sycophants truly serve is existence in a radioactive death World their wet dream are they this degenerate.

  13. basta on June 12, 2016 at 8:28 am

    What goes around comes around.

    The circle is closed, the ourobos swallows its tail.

    And once and for all, it ain’t the Nazis that are the problem, sheesh!

    They were absorbed into other fascist currents a generation ago. Follow the money — especially the fiat Ponzi monopoly money. THERE is your problem.

    • Don B on June 12, 2016 at 1:40 pm

      I tend to agree even though we disagree on some issues. East Germany is where Merkel was excreted if memory serves and it has always been a hotbed of Marxism similar in many ways to Chicago Marxism from which Merkel’s buddy Hillary originated. I think the Bolsheviks are intentionally causing a civil war in Germany and it will destroy the place. Allow Hillary to appoint 3-4 more Bolsheviks, and this country will be gone. Count on it.

    • T.J. on June 12, 2016 at 3:12 pm

      Basta: Although “fiat Ponzi monopoly money” is more closely tied to Rotten-Child central banking, what is the possibility that the Nazi International has now merged with Rotten-Child/Bolsheviks and Bush-Clinton/NeoCons to be the problem that Joseph identifies so well?

      You may want to read Joseph’s new book, “Hidden Finance, Rogue Networks, and Secret Sorcery: The Fascist International, 9/11, and Penetrated Operations,” which lays out the problems & issues very well.

      • basta on June 12, 2016 at 5:07 pm

        @Don B,
        We certainly agree regarding Merkel and I also agree with your post, but the Bolsheviks aren’t Nazis — the two groups were mortal enemies, do recall.

        I’ve listened to all three of JPF’s 911 talks with Dark Journalist and sorry, I don’t buy his idea of a “third level” at all. There’s no serious evidence for it at all. I studied 911 intently for several years and it sure wasn’t the Nazi International using DEW weapons. That’s just so far out there I can’t take it seriously. And such a thesis yet further nullifies and obfuscates and diverst from the very solid and revelatory work that’s been done on the subject, and it excuses the real perps. So no, I won’t buy that book and support that, though I have over a half-dozen others.

        I just think this Nazi obsession has jumped the shark. It’s like the saying goes: If all you have is a hammer, then everything begins to look like a nail.

        • T.J. on June 12, 2016 at 11:11 pm

          @Basta: Both Nazis & Bolsheviks are forms of “fascism,” which simply means “an authoritarian, nationalistic system of government.” Synonyms are authoritarianism, totalitarianism, despotism, autocracy, etc. The Nazi Party was the National Socialist Party, corporate socialism (similar to what we have in the U.S.) — but NOT “Communism.” ;-).

          City of London, Frankfurt, Wall St. & Rotten-Childs created & funded Bolsheviks — just as with the Nazis. Then WW2, where they all made money. Then The Cold War, then… then… Now WW3? Joseph et al see a pattern.

          Putin & Russians know & talk about this Nazi history — but do NOT talk about a similar history for Bolshevism.

          Alone, Bush’s post-9/11 diversion to Barksdale & Offutt prove the “Third Level” that penetrated levels 1 & 2.

          The most cogent proof for 9/11 5th generation micro-nukes is at (explaining how they work and who did it). However, micro-nukes don’t explain all of the disparate 9/11 data.

          Tarpley, Marrs, Wood & VT mil/intel guys are friends. However, they don’t get the probability of Third-Level involvement. Farrell does (although he too misses a few puzzle pieces). Acquaintance Steven Jones and those who promote his nanothermite 9/11 controlled demolition hypothesis are so full of themselves that their eyes are turning brown. VERY little proof for nanothermite.

          Second Level perps NOT to be excused. If not for them, there would be NO Third Level. Check on 9/11 micro-nukes — blaming Bibi & Co. Then check on DEW — blaming who-knows-who. Then check Farrell’s new book — blaming a Third Level (NOT necessarily all Nazi International and NOT necessarily all DEW). The truth is there — NOT ‘[far] out there.’

          • basta on June 13, 2016 at 10:21 am

            Everybody has and is pushing an agenda, and I am very skeptical of all so-caled “white hats.” I’ve studied the USGS report on water samples at ground zero (which explains why it’s called “ground zero”) and I’ve also studied the nuke question and yes, they were pocket nukes but that will NEVER be admitted due to the public panic factor. So you get massive obfuscation — anything but THAT.

            As for this so-called third level, sorry, it doesn’t exist, it’s just the ziocons, period. Regarding W’s peripatetic travels from Barksdale to Offut, I believe he was hung out to dry and to twist in the wind by the putchists.

            And clearly 911 was a putsch. Bush was clueless; he probably knew 911 was coming down, but he was caught short. It’s no accident he was in Florida in a kindergarten when it happened, exactly to make the point he was a clueles child. He was left hanging for nearly an hour, then was hustled off to AF1 and flew to Barksdale without fighter escort, even though there was a major AFB nearby. W got the call about the “compromised” codes from Cheney, fast in his WH bunker running the show, while W was a sitting duck on AF1.

            W was a cheerleader at Yale, and I think the conversation went something like, “Sign on to cheerlead for us or we blow you out of the sky and make this an even more tragic day.” So of course W, barely in control of AF1, hustles off to Offut — where Sam Walton just happened to be hosting a charity golf tournament for all of the conservative US CEOs — the perfect excuse also not to show up at work in the WTC that day.

            That’s the so-called third level, an insider putsch, not some mythcial Nazi Inernational chupacabra.

          • goshawks on June 13, 2016 at 5:24 pm

            basta, I tend to come down more with your analysis. I, too, read the USGS report on water samples at ground zero, and I’ve also studied the nuke question. There are also minimized reports on massive structural members of the Towers being thrown into adjacent buildings.

            The thing that finally put me in the nuke camp was the ‘moderating ponds’. Each of the former Towers now has a recirculating pool over it, as part of the memorial.

            For those not familiar with this aspect, note that nuke power cores are submerged in recirculating water. The water not only serves as a weak neutron damper, but as a fluid for taking-away the heat from nuke byproducts. Long-term thinking on the TPB’s part…

            The fried cars in the parking lot are the main anomaly still left unsolved for me. I am unsure how to fit this in with below-ground-level pocket-nukes (really, thermo-nukes).

          • goshawks on June 13, 2016 at 7:48 pm

            “Your comment is awaiting moderation.” Too accurate? goshawks – June 13, 2016 at 5:24 pm.

        • Guygrr on June 13, 2016 at 12:02 pm

          Really? I’ve come to the exact opposite conclusion after many years of studying 9/11, that a third level is the ONLY way to rationalize that day. The DJ interview does not do the book justice in my opinion. As far as the DEW hypothesis goes, totally possible, Rife machine for buildings basically. I recommend that anyone interested start with what happened, i.e. Judy Wood’s book, then read Bain’s, Most Dangerous Book in the World, followed by Farrell’s to connect the two.

          I think full appreciation of the new book is better afforded by those with a very familiar understanding of the event itself, in addition to Farrell’s other books, It can stand on it’s own, but there’s a reason it has taken 15 years for Joseph to get here.

          • T.J. on June 13, 2016 at 1:44 pm

            @basta: The Gehlen Org infiltrated CIA, NASA & U.S. after WW2. Nazis involved with Nixon and in other Republican elections. Gehlen himself secretly honored at Reagan-Bush inaugural (as per ex-CIA friends). WW2 loot controlled by Nazis, Japs, Rotten-Childs, Rockefellers & Bush Family (with last 3 close to WW2 Nazis & Japs).

            Bush, NeoCons & BibiCo. already controlled U.S. (since 1963). No 9/11 putsch necessary. For what? The 9/11 putsch/coup by Nazis & Rotten-Child was to maintain economic hegemony and/or to do WW3. Pre-9/11, Rockefellers opted out.

            Pre-WW2 German (non-Nazi & Nazi) Secret Space Program merged with NASA++ after WW2. Super-advanced tech easily enables aerial 9/11 DEW — especially with post-Tesla power sourcing. 9/11 was multi-factorial: 5th gen. nukes, DEW, etc.

            Russians provided proof to on 5th gen. 9/11 nukes in which Bibi & Co. played a role — probably also part of Level 3. However, even micro-nukes insufficient for all 9/11 data.

            Russia & BRICS now attempt to thwart WW3. MH370 disappearance shows power of Level-3 tech. De-facto Syrian no-fly zone shows Russian defensive tech, which can counter most Level-3 weapons.

            @guygrr‘s comment is quite correct. What we have now are WW3 scenarios pushed by Level 3 (now controlling Level 2) — being thwarted by Russia & BRICS (AND many in bifurcated U.S. military). Few know the full story. Farrell comes close.

          • zendogbreath on June 13, 2016 at 9:04 pm

            guys we’re all on level one complaining about how nasty level two is and arguing about the possibility of a level three when we have no clue how many levels there are nor who is who in whatever level.

            yeh obviously the towers and the pentagram hits were all a message. the higher the level of the audience, the clearer the message came through. or would that be lower level? either way, all targets and methods were hit in multiple methods for multiple reasons. world trade needed demolition that would cost more than it was worth. the pentagram had recently hardened that side of the building with anti-missile renovations and put all their inspector general auditors looking for missing 2.3trillion in that room. nano thermite AND dew are not beyond the possibilities nor probabilities.

            at the very least they do keep the most informed folk on the subject arguing about trivial less pertinent matters.

            since the domestic wurlitzer recently started winding up with anti-saudi noise, wondering if the ussa sheep are going to get more exposure to anti-ziocon and anti-nazi and anti-bolshevik rhetoric too.

            after all how can ya get a party started with the four horsemen with out filling in all the vague prophesies set up by mr scofield?

          • basta on June 14, 2016 at 2:55 am


            I’m sorry but it isn’t that complicated. It’s money + power + ideology. Full stop. I.e., the ziocons or the Cabal, call them what you will.

            I know all about all those dark forces you’ve strung together there — it’s a heady conspiracy bouillabaisse that’s been cooked up, I give you that, but I am convinced it’s (classic) misdirection.

            I’ve also read Judy Wood: toasted nearby cars, sublimating 40+ ton steel girders ejected sideways landing 100+ yards away, melted engine blocks, peeled paint and vaporized rubber on cars in nearby lots, the apple-cored WTC 6, a hot blast wave that picked up and carried away nearby survivors, several 2.4 Richter level explosions recorded some 10 seconds before the towers collapse, micronized copper, tritium, 1000+ degree hotspots pumped for months afterward with water, first responders dying of various cancers and leukemia, etc…

            ALL of it is explained more simply by pocket nukes and a lot of it cannot be accounted for by these hypothetical yet massively destructive DEW weapons. This is simple logic. Likewise, it was the Cabal, not some vaguely glimpsed cell of super Nazis.

  14. WalkingDead on June 12, 2016 at 8:22 am

    I suspect that New World Odor is more a Nazi international operation backed by the same traitorous oligarch and global corporations which backed the Nazis before and is using the “indispensable nation” as its cover and military arm. This is just one more step along that path. Once Germany and Russia combine their economic/military structures, it will be unstoppable simply due to the fact that the USSA has outsourced most of its manufacturing to third world countries supposedly for the profit motive. In reality, this was most likely done to intentionally weaken the USSA.
    While the all too obvious intent is to keep Germany and Russia separate and at odds with each other to the point of war, that may not be what is actually happening in reality. The hubris of the neocons will most likely come back to bite them on their backsides for the simple reason that no one likes having a boot ground into their face for very long. The world is waking up to this and the list of Washington’s allies is going to start thinning out.
    With the recent cooperation between China and Russia, Washington faces a combined enemy it most likely cannot defeat should it be arrogant enough to provoke a world wide conflict. This may also be by design.
    Once Hitlery obtains the presidency they only need to play upon the arrogance of the neocons to put this into play and the end result will come swiftly. This does not bode well for America. A well timed world wide economic depression could trigger it easily and everything is in place for that to happen.
    There are always plans within plans with this shadowy government. So who is being played here? Most likely all the key players in various ways and the ultimate goal is world wide conflict which would satisfy many of the goals listed on the Georgia Guidestones. You can bet that those behind it all will ride out the conflict in hardened and already prepared bunkers located all over the earth to reemerge after the noise subsides to take control of what ever is left with their prepared surveillance/police state already in place.
    They will have their season in the sun, but it will be short lived. Seven years will they be given.

    • Roger on June 12, 2016 at 12:49 pm

      A potential I see is the Nazis and American communists may now be at odds with one and another. The American Nazis want Germany to rise as the new super power and are willing to throw us under the bus to do it. They have huge ranches in Nazi controlled Patagonia to run to. The American communists/Democrats want to retain power but are losing too much power both here and in Europe unless Hillary gets elected. The two previously appeared to work together but seem to be splitting. Both are likely controlled by a third player and that third player may yet be double crossed as well by the Nazis. Perhaps the UK is the center of power for the third player and is why there may be a Brexit.

  15. DanaThomas on June 12, 2016 at 5:43 am

    It was said of the Bourbons that they never forgot and they never learned; but this alo seems to apply to some of those inter-generational power structures in Berlin.

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