Joseph offers some speculations about Thursday-Friday's coup attempt against Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan:

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. Gillian Grannum on July 17, 2016 at 8:20 pm

    Hello All! Joseph suggested I post my commentary from his latest YT News & Views on his community site. Here is what I wrote:

    Excellent commentary. In addition, per your acknowledgement that 4 may not completely cover all options, here are #5 and 6:

    5-Russia, not the United States, is in the driver’s seat. Russia used its superb spy forces to uncover a USA plot against Erdogan that was being hatched by his former friend now enemy living in the US.

    Russia gets word to Erdogan that the Americans are getting ready to stab him in the back and they have the particulars of the plot being hatched to unseat him.

    Erdogan flies to Russia, gets convinced the plot against him is for real and KNOWS he’ll go down without some Russian assistance. So he agrees to stop being the supply depot for ISIS and the terrorist op in Syria.

    He decides to suck salt, apologize to Russia, pay the family who lost a member in the plane that was shot down – all in return for Russia giving him CURRENT intel regarding the coup when he gets home. He gets word timely from Russia. Goes on vacation (just like Putin did when he was being chased) and then sits back and sees all the folk who he needs to get rid of because they are plants of the USA.

    6-Kerry’s visit to Russia probably was 2-fold – again, Russia in the driver’s seat. Russia has Clinton’s emails – ALL OF THEM.

    Kerry needs to make sure nothing leaks between now and November. Russia is willing to oblige on certain conditions – US goes along with Erdogan’s decision to shut down ISIS, joins Russia in wiping out the remnants of ISIS, and holds out a couple more Trump cards (pun intended) over Kerry’s head.

    I’m convinced Putin believes the world will be a much safer place under Trump – despite all the “tough talk” – than Clinton, who is a very frightening thought as POTUS for the ENTIRE globe.

    Reason for speculation

    From my perspective, Clinton’s emails are the KEY to any analysis of TRUE Russian ascendancy over the US.

    1- A couple months back some US General said that any foreign government found to have hacked US servers would be grounds for war. That, obviously, was a typical bumbling US attempt to keep Russia in check

    2-IF I’m right about the Russians having ALL Clinton emails then the precision of their Syrian offensive makes sense. There is also the fact that she had Special Access Program info on her server. They would have that, too.

    3-Of greater FRIGHT to the American governing class, the Russians also likely have ALL the IMPORTANT emails on the Clinton Foundation server, and can trace classified info stored on HRC’s private server to the Foundation server. The likely individual in that transfer is Chelsea Clinton. Only 3 email addresses supposedly issued to the server – Huma Abedin, HRC, and Chelsea.

    There is more, but once the Clinton emails are pulled into the picture the sudden shifts in US policy begin to make sense. The Russians can bring down the ENTIRE US govt for money laundering via the Clinton Foundation – the purchase of Super Delegates, and on and on.

    This summary only offers the highest level analysis of the power Russia holds as a result of Clinton putting the selling of state secrets above US national security. The Chinese are definitely in on it as well, hence their refusal to back down in the China Seas.

  2. T.J. on July 17, 2016 at 3:05 pm

    If or SINCE an F-16 micro-nuked the Turkish parliament building, we know that there MUST have been non-Turk involvement in the Faux Coup. Erdogan/MIT don’t have 4th/5th generation +/-0.5 kiloton micro-nukes (also not at Incirlik).

    See “Turkish Parliament Nuked During Coup Attempt” by Ian Greenhalgh at http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/07/15/turkish-parliament-nuked-during-coup-attempt (“All major media had reported a loud explosion in Ankara; pictures show it was a nuclear blast”). Strongly confirmed by VT’s DoE/IAEA physicist expert, but awaiting on-ground inspection & pics for bomb damage assessment (BDA).

    4th/5th gen. micro-nukes also used on 9/11 by “Rothschild Khazarian Mafia” or RKM as per VT (with Russian & U.S. DoE sources). Other “exotic weaponry” also a possibility/probability on 9/11 as per Joseph, others & me. Thus, Fascist-Nazi mafia and/or RKM involvement in the Turk Faux Coup is likely. Definitely NOT Turk-only.

    Erdogan also cut electric & water to Incirlik Air Base, home of 84 B61 nukes. Saudi F-16s modified to carry B61s also at Incirlik; so, B61s may be in play. Thus, the Faux Coup may be distracting some/many from another WW3 attempt.

  3. basta on July 17, 2016 at 5:59 am

    Right when the news broke a friend who’s lived in Turkey said it was a fake coup mounted by Erdogan to consolidate power, and watching it all play out, I agree. Grey Wolves? Puhleeze! Erdogan’s been consolidating his sultinate for all to see at a frenetic pace, with several obvious false flag “terrorit” attacks already under his belt that are recognized as such by many Turks.

    And seriously, if that was a coup, that was the most pathetic coup ever. Period. If it was done by a rival intelligence agency, then they should all be fired for rank incompetence.

    Nothing holds together: the units sent out in Istanbul thought they were doing an exercise or drill (where have we seen THAT before?) and quickly folded; there was colonel who came on TV to ask everyone to rmain calm and explain things; no one bothered to actually capture or kill Erdogan (d’oh!); they practically nuked the parliament (some say actually they did), how very convenient and where have we seen THAT before?; and then the army and judiciary are purged of “Gulenists”, when Gulen is just the MacGuffin.

    As for the whole anti-US bluster, it’s part of the silly paranoid Gulen straw man meme being used for domestic consumption. Erdogan is mad but he’s not stupid.

    • basta on July 17, 2016 at 6:01 am

      ^there was NO colonel

      Sorry, I type too fast and should proofread better.

  4. TRM on July 17, 2016 at 1:04 am

    Fake from the word go. “Let’s do a coupe! Everyone in? Yes. Sure. All the way… Hey where did everyone go?”.

    Nobody has a list of close to 3,000 judges & prosecutors who weren’t even involved and has them all arrested within hours unless they planned it ahead of time.

    Just lead the army groups you know are coupe minded to the water hole and then hold their heads under until they drown. Let them expose themselves and now all those nasty judges and prosecutors will rot in jail. Oh and we’ll purge the army too.

    Useful idiots are useful, at least once.

  5. BetelgeuseT-1 on July 16, 2016 at 9:30 pm

    Another take on this.
    Perhaps this “coup” was a shot across the bow for Erdogan by his NATO handlers?
    Stay on the reservation Mr Erdogan, or you will be removed.
    The coup wasn’t meant to succeed, just a stern warning.
    There likely won’t be a warning next time.
    If Erdogan does another 180, then we’ll know.

  6. Wayne D on July 16, 2016 at 9:15 pm

    I too, was taken with the scenes of the unarmed Turkish civilians overpowering the military and even taking the tanks and the troops cowering. Doesn’t say much for the military,from that standpoint. If this was a serious attempt, Erdogan’s plane would have been shot out of the air. The end of Erdogan.

    What a bunch of players.

    Something stinks here and lets not forget Egypt in this mix.

  7. marcos toledo on July 16, 2016 at 8:59 pm

    This beginning to look like a matryoshra doll like scenario or wheels within wheels. The old question Cui Bono and who are really the masters and when or if they will revival themselves. The two barbarians at the gate out to destroy Orthodoxy-Hellenism Russia-Armenia and bury finally the real heirs of the Roman Empire by the Germ-Turkish alliance.

  8. Thomas on July 16, 2016 at 8:53 pm

    If this was Erdogan cleaning house, could it be due to Russia sharing info that Gulen was being kept in the wings as a replacement and Erdogan was going to be used as a ‘Fall guy’ down the line..the tidbit article about Gulans links to Clinton make me suspicious Russia could shown him some of those they emails they ‘may have’

  9. Aridzonan_13 on July 16, 2016 at 8:41 pm

    China is now in the region to fight the “War on Terror”. The threat to the Silk Road has forced their hand. Note, the *R*C* component of the BRICs don’t play. This could have been an externally driven coup to make Erdogan wake up and smell the coffee. It will be interesting to see just how bad it gets in Europe for any nation considering a EuroExit.. I expect more instabality. Because, that’s what the Nazi.Int aka Spectre does.

    • BetelgeuseT-1 on July 16, 2016 at 9:12 pm

      Yes, “The Strategy of Tension” – the old OSS+Fremde Heere Ost = CIA – mantra, is alive and well, around the world.

  10. enki-nike on July 16, 2016 at 8:41 pm

    There is another possibility which is a variation of scenario 2: It could have been an infiltrated coup. If Erdogan had gained intelligence of a planned coup attempt he could have allowed it to proceed but with safeguards in place so that it would fail.

  11. DownunderET on July 16, 2016 at 8:23 pm

    What a mixed bag to coin a phrase, OR , you can’t make this stuff up.
    When Turkey started to want to talk to Syria I thought, shoot, what’s all this about, and a 180deg turnaround in Turkey’s crazy political speak. Erdogan is a nut case, but he is in charge, so what’s going to be interesting is not today or tomorrow, but in two weeks time.
    As you know it takes a few weeks before it all pans out and becomes clearer. So it’s a “watch this space” for me.

  12. Pellevoisin on July 16, 2016 at 7:49 pm

    It was once explained to me that Gülen was Muslim Brotherhood/CIA and that Erdogan was Muslim Brotherhood/”something else”.

    Some years ago it seemed obvious that Gülen was more dangerous than Erdogan, but then I had friends, family, and colleagues tell me that Erdogan was the far more dangerous of the two.

    About four years ago, a learnèd friend used a similar shorthand and expressed the idea that Gülen was CIA/Bush/Clinton/US friends/Muslim Brotherhood/Salafist/ and Saudi royal family in connexions and that Erdogan enjoyed a strange support from the USAmerican president Obama, certain German friends, and the CIA. He said it appeared that there were two CIA’s. I had heard before of the “Two Powers” in the CIA, but had regarded the idea as fiction.

    At the time I had no real interest in what was taking place in the USA as I had trouble enough in my own neck of the woods, but I have thought more about my learnèd friend who is now deceased. He once told me that Mubarak and the Egyptian military although fiercely anti-Muslim Brotherhood were more opposed to Erdogan than to Gülen. It was interesting to see Egypt block the UN Security Council resolution today that Obama was insisting upon declaring support for Erdogan and his “democratically elected government” even as Erdogan was blaming Gülen for the “coup”.

    • Aridzonan_13 on July 16, 2016 at 8:41 pm

      Cool logo!

  13. BetelgeuseT-1 on July 16, 2016 at 7:15 pm

    The Grey Wolves are part of the Gladio B operation.
    Again, Sibel Edmonds has a lot of information on this shadowy group.
    So if the Grey Wolves were one of the parties behind this “coup”, then we know who is behind it at the next level up.

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