1. Hawkeye Lockhart

    Further insightful reporting and analysis:

    Who prevented the coup and who hit the streets? – Ali Ergin Demirhan
    The crowds in Harbiye, Taksim, Saraçhane and in front of the Istanbul Police Station on Vatan Avenue on the night of 15 July were neither the force that stopped the coup nor interested in protecting democracy.

    As we predicted last year, the deep state coup against Erdogan finally materialized last weekend…but it fizzled out almost as quickly as it arrived. So what are we to make of this would-be putsch? Did Erdogan allow it to happen in order to further cement his control on the rebound? Or was this merely a trial run for the real CIA/NATO/Gulenist coup yet to come? And what role do the Turkish people play in all of this? Joining us today to dissect the mayhem is Sibel Edmonds and Spiro Skouras of Newsbud.com.

    And some deeply insightful commenters follow-on here:

  2. wow
    just posted a comment on declassified 911 pages. the bots didn’t even bother to await moderation. it’s just gone.

    never appeared. wonder if it will magically show up in a day or two.

  3. marcos toledo

    Looks like the Norman-Atlantic Sphere is losing it’s grip. So called Europe has been a patch work of tribal societies masquerading as a civilization. So dumb as to allow Turks into Europe and their obsession with destroying Russia the only true European state to consolidate itself and a polyglot state to boot. The Great Game is finally lets hope going to hell where it should never have crawled out of.

  4. It is interesting to watch the pendulum swing on the theories wondering where the scrying will come to an end.

    I am convinced that the world is a much more dangerous place than before the ‘coup event’. Missing warships, missing helicopters. No one knows what else may be missing from Inçirlik and not reported.

    I have read a report that cannot in any way be verified that claims that Erdogan has ordered detentions of Turkish Armenians. Whether or not such a story is true, it sends shivers through me and makes me think of the late Hrant Dink. But I must imagine that if Erdogan himself was not responsible for the ‘coup event’ he must be very much afraid to find himself in a situation not unlike that in the US government on 9/11 when suddenly the world goes all pear shaped and north is south and south is north. Erdogan cannot go off like Dick Cheney and hammer the apparatus back into shape, so it would not surprise me to see Erdogan arresting and detaining anyone and everyone who might be a threat whether they be a Gülenist, a Turkish Arab Alawi, a Turkish Alevi, a Crypto-Armenian, a part of Turkey’s Armenian minority, or a Kurd.

    The Turks are guilty of a great many evils that they refuse to acknowledge. They will not repent or atone for anything. And I am not just speaking of the atrocities committed against the Armenians. Many countries and peoples are not that different from the Turks in this regard. But the Divine Order does not allow such nations to endure. In time the torch will pass to some other people or nation, and it will be terribly painful. And in a time when Time (read: Zoroastrian Zurvan) is itself catapulting forward upon itself, I suspect we will not wait long before many a nation vanishes from our maps.

  5. Joseph: Just got confirmation that Gillian’s hypothesis about Russia informing & protecting Erdogan is quite correct. However, Erdogan already had good cause to know or suspect that a US/CIA/NATO coup was coming. Russia now protecting Erdogan. Although not the source of confirmation, see Bill Engdahl & Sibel Edmonds stuff on the coup attempt (within last few days & earlier).

    A good day for lessening chaos, conflict & confusion in the Mideast, but another sad day for the U.S. Govt. — albeit good for America & Americans.

    Erdogan was/is a bad guy, but not as bad as US/CIA/NATO post-ouster alternatives.

    Thus, I see linked articles in a different light. Incirlik Syrian sorties now resumed, as per DoD. Incirlik power & water now supposedly resumed (although stories conflicting). Back-up power = 3+ weeks. Saudi F-16 that 4th/5th-gen. micro-nuked parliament front door allegedly Incirlik-based. +/-84 B61 nukes at Incirlik being in jeopardy would be good cause for U.S./NATO intervention.

    If Russia too was protecting Erdogan’s plane, Erdogan probably had no fears. Erdogan’s expected overreaction to the not-really-fake coup attempt was/is to fuel another coup, assassination and/or other Erdogan ouster attempt.

    Both MSM & Alt.Media sang about a supposed Erdogan-initiated fake coup. Many others & I initially fell for fake-coup-by-Erdogan stories. Kinda like 9/11 “Osama & Nineteen Young Arabs” (ONYA) — until fake/real conspiracy theories.

      1. Paul: Good find. Important. Thank you. Missed that.

        See also “Turkey Arrests and May Execute Pilots Who Downed Russian Su-24, Ties Them to Coup Plotters” at http://www.VeteransToday.com/2016/07/20/turkey-arrests-and-may-execute-pilots-who-downed-russian-su-24-ties-them-to-coup-plotters.

        If true, this may represent a true change of position by Erdogan vis-a-vis Russia & Syria (of which I was skeptical).

        Bill Engdahl, Sibel Edmonds & others say unequivocally that CIA initiated the coup attempt. Sibel & Co. predicted this in 2015.

        Erdogan’s overreaction was predictable and will now be used to TRY another coup or an assassination. However, Russia is now protecting Erdogan & Turkey. Syria deja vu all over again?

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