THAT RUSSIAN HACKING MEME: TRUMP AND A COMING SHOWDOWN WITH THE CIA?

THAT RUSSIAN HACKING MEME: TRUMP AND A COMING SHOWDOWN WITH THE CIA?

In the last two News and Views from the Nefarium I've been concentrating not only on the geopolitical realignments that the coming year(s) portend, but also on the international and domestic realignments that are concomitant with them, including what I have been calling "international mafia wars," as the neo-con globalist-Atlanticist factions within various great powers attempt to hold on to power and chorale and channel their unanticipated opposition into policies acceptable to them. In that  vein, consider the following stories shared by various readers here:

Trump on Alleged Russian Hacking: I know things others don't

As this RT article citing Sean Spicer points out, the Russian hacking meme has been getting all the attention - no doubt in part in an attempt to de-legitimize the election results - while Chinese hacking has been downplayed, if it is mentioned at all:

Political retribution? Trump press sec questions Russia sanctions, brings up unanswered ‘China hack’

And finally, these articles from our friends at  The Daily Bell about a possible looming battle between the incoming Trump administration and the CIA:

Supposed Russian Hack Further Illustrates the Divide Between CIA and Trump

A similar story is being reported by Zero Hedge:

Trump Is Working On A Plan To Restructure, Pare Back The CIA And America's Top Spy Agency

And finally, this find, by one alert reader of this website:

US Govt Data Shows Russia Used Outdated Ukrainian PHP Malware

Note the conclusion of the last article:

The IP addresses that DHS provided may have been used for an attack by a state actor like Russia. But they don’t appear to provide any association with Russia. They are probably used by a wide range of other malicious actors, especially the 15% of IP addresses that are Tor exit nodes.

The malware sample is old, widely used and appears to be Ukrainian. It has no apparent relationship with Russian intelligence and it would be an indicator of compromise for any website.

The relationship of the malware sample, originating from the Ukraine, raises unpleasant but necessary questions: since it it widely known that the USA was a main sponsor of the events in the Ukraine that overthrew a legitimate (if corrupt) government with a new (and even more corrupt) government, that question is rather obvious: could the entire hacking meme have been an attempt at a "cyber false flag" originating in the West to embarrass Russia? Possibly, but here our criticism of the hacking meme and a Russian origin for the hacking, works in reverse: if the Russians were unlikely to have used such a clumsy method, perhaps the West would be too. And as the conclusions point out, the mere use of addresses in Russia does not, as any hacker knows, mean that Russia is the one using them. In effect, it proves nothing.  And we must hold out the possibility of non-state actors, and such a possibility would fit well with my "emergent international Mafia wars" hypothesis, as factions of Globaloneyists and the fascist sympathizers in various nations' deep states close ranks.

In my high octane speculation of the day, it appears that what is looming here is a showdown between Mr. Trump and his deep state supporters, and the neo-con factions within the American intelligence community, represented by the CIA (which, let it be noted, is not a monolithic anti-Trump agency either, if one takes the pre-election revelations of Dr. Steve Pieczenik at face value). The Daily Bell suggests this looking showdown:

It seems obvious at this point that the CIA and Trump have entirely different positions when it comes to Russian maliciousness, which Trump downplays while the CIA works to advertise it.

But the issue is even more serious than that.

The larger issue is one we’ve been talking about for 15 years or more. The CIA is accountable to overseas banking interests in the City of London, not to American intelligence operations. The latter accountability is just a smokescreen.

The split has now become public knowledge and Trump is being directly threatened as a result.

Such statements strongly imply a showdown is looming, and give even more credence to those stories that Mr. Trump has retained his private security for protection, and of course, they give credence to those rumors that perhaps even Russian speznaz units are running security interference for Mr. Trump without his knowledge or involvement. If so, then this means that Mr. Trump is very aware of the power blocs aligned domestically against him, and give strong support to those rumors that he, like Mr. Kennedy, may be planning to reign in the agency. Unlike Mr. Kennedy, it appears that Mr. Trump is not so naive to believe he can do so without his own private and trusted security.

Time of course, will tell, and this is definitely a case of "you tell me."

See you on the flip side.

24 thoughts on “THAT RUSSIAN HACKING MEME: TRUMP AND A COMING SHOWDOWN WITH THE CIA?”

  1. Robert Barricklow

    Chief of Homeland Security[literary taken from the pages of Nazi Germany; actually, Hitler stole it from the Zionist’s goal to create a Jewish homeland in the Middle East] –
    announced his office will be taking over U.S. elections. He sited that it was vital to our Fascist security…, er-
    Nation’s security, that is. Yea, that’s it. Do to bad actors[he shouldn’t be so hard on himself] and election infrastructure[might actually elect someone other than puppet].
    Well, we’ve seen this script before in some lame B-movies of black hats and white hats. So much for good writers. Where are the good script writers when you need a believable coup?

  2. Interesting times when the President (elect) hires private security to protect him from his security.

  3. President George Bush Jr. claimed a lot of his bad decisions as President was because he was being purposefully lied to about the facts. He was being manipulated. Obama seems to believe a lot of what he says so may be being lied to and manipulated as well in all his intelligence breafings. What if the intelligence agencies that the military,senate, congress, and the president rely upon are lying and manipulating everyone. With false intelligence, those in government could believe they are doing what’s best when really they are being played into destroying the US and the rest of the world for the gain of the hidden hand.

    1. yep same old day in all intel circles, even the most central intel circles – in jesuit circles. ask jorge about some of his own jesuit friends and their unfortunate deaths that he failed to help prevent during dirty wars.

    2. “President George Bush Jr. claimed a lot of his bad decisions as President was because he was being purposefully lied to about the facts. He was being manipulated. Obama seems to believe a lot of what he says so may be being lied to and manipulated as well in all his intelligence breafings. ”

      Both were lying. How do I know? Both are career politicians, and their lips were moving.

  4. So will Trump do the job JFK tried to do after the Bay of Pigs smash the Agency into a thousand pieces. Will TPTB let him succeed or off him like the did JFK, RFK, JFK jr we await the results with growing fear.

    1. when george h w bush and his clan – clintons, waltons, enron, some banksters,… start paying tributes to improve the infrastructure and economy for the 99% then we’ll know it’s a start

  5. Could all the publicity about Russian hacking have been a planned distraction to preempt any kind of “Disclosure” event?

  6. NSA Hacked the Election, Not the Russians!
    The real “fake news” is coming from the Globalist Controlled Media.
    William Binney, a highly placed NSA administrator, came forward back in early August to expose who really hacked the DNC server. This was reported by Judge Napolitano, at Fox News in the same timeframe.
    Listen as newsbug documents how the NSA operates, and decide for yourselves, who is creating the Fake News….
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujiaTozieOQ&feature=share
    Here’s Judge Napolitano reporting on the NSA hacking back in early August, as well:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9xgcR4yF5Y

    1. To counter the disparaging “alt right media” moniker, I have devised the phrase “cult left media” and I think it is very apropos and I have used it to stop a few blowhard progressives in their tracks already. NPR = cult left media.

    2. i saw binney on rt last night. genius guy. his bio is a wonder. amazing he’s alive. not to mention able to tell that story. gives me faith that an intel purge is possible. perhaps not perfect and complete, but at least possible. in 2001, it did not seem possible.

      at any rate, the irony of npr is how conservatives took them over under w. and they still throw gafla from the right and gafla from the left and the pretend they’re not just throwing a bunch of gafla at us.

      had an avid rolling stone reading friend splaining to me that she’d a voted bernie if he’d gotten his message out there sooner. argument was to splain away why he didn’t win the primary. told her about dnc gross corruption and how bernie blew out killery and woulda blown out t rump and that such pooched video productions of faked conventions were no longer sellable with purged bernie delegates iphoning live streamed videos of the reality of the pooched convention.

      my friends tactic turned to citing fake news memes. bad idea given how notoriously wrong and intentionally wrong the media’s been. asked her if she’s believing nyt or wapo or cnn or cnbc or cbs or any such lately and her claim to recent credibility was mother jones.

      throughout our talk her claim is that i shoulda voted. she voted hillary. just like these donkey’s throwing gafla from the right and gafla from the left pretending anyone can get accurate actionable data from such trash, i told her that apparently the majority vote was not for t rump nor killery. it was for neither. she questioned that.

      my reply: voting for the lesser of two evils is voting for evil. people eventually get that.

      1. guess i’m still a bit wound up. the point about binney last night is what he and others are pointing to more and more:

        the dnc suffered leaks not hacks. there were no hacks worth speaking of this election. at least not hacks done by parties other than the dnc and rnc. bev harris, greg palast and others have covered this very well – plug for blackboxvoting.org

        the leaks were probably from killery’s #3 or #2 guy – the one who got murdered in dc during the end of the campaign.

        more importantly, the leaks have all proven accurate so far and their contents are pertinent and potent. and yet to be considered and properly published.

        and besides all this, killery’s weak cyber security is open and obvious and admitted. as if this didn’t ruin her credibility completely in matters of state and defense…

        so when we see the podesta’s in a dark cell in chains, and killery and slickedwillie giving up billions in fines, we’ll know the leaks are finally being given their due.

    3. thankyou george. nice links. i thought fox gave up on napalitano after his willingness to be honest and open so painfully.

  7. Again, the whole Russia dun didit psyop is desperate, third-rate deflection done by a bunch of shrill and entirely uncreative hacks. No one believes it, and Trump will leverage this to take a sledge hammer to the three-letter boys who have tried to delegitimize him in a political CYA operation. It bears repeating that the DNC is not part of the US gubmint; it is a private corporation — and the president elect’s opposition.

    The CIA has doubled down on stupid and they sure ain’t what they used to be. They’re infected with the same dynamic of slowly degrading competence seen across American society, the rising idiocracy, and objectively they’re just thick-necked hacks.

    Also, among the deplorables, there is an acute knowledge of the danger of assassination, and you see over and over again that Trump supporters out there know just who would try such a thing, and repeatedly remark that that would be a very very bad idea for the integrity of the country and the safety of the spooks in the aftermath. This is not the same naive USA in which you could murder a president in broad daylight and get away with it, and in fact run the country for two generations afterward. An assassination would be like throwing a match into a fireworks factory.

    1. Well said, basta! It will be interesting to see who finally ends-up in the CIA/NSA/LBJ top spots. It will also be interesting to see who supports Trump’s nominees for the positions and who is rabidly against them.

      And also, whether Trump refuses to set-foot in Air Force One…

    2. These r all good points. Big paradigm shift 4 me is how many folk from how many diffrnt sides r shiftin 2. Talk of false flags, psyops, abiotic petrol, pederast demonists thru out the realms, …. all the concepts i always thought could only b insider giza stuff is quickly becoming stuff i hear commonly. Its like 10 days after pizzapizza we hearing common talk that took 10 years to come out after jfk.

      Come to think of it, i bet a good 46% of ussa citizens will grock vomitos gospels today.

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