BEHIND BREXIT: THE UK MILTARY, INTELL & OTHER STUFF
In last Thursday's News and Views from the Nefarium I spoke about Brexit and the sound drubbings Birtish Prime Minister May received in the House of Commons last week, losing a vote on her Brexit deal by the largest no-confidence measure in modern British history, and exceeding that against Ramsey MacDonald, decades ago, by scores and scores of votes. Labour opposition quickly brought a no confidence measure, which she survived. But there's no doubt that May's government, like Mad Madame Merkel's and globaloney Marionette Macron's, is faltering and weak, and the reason for that weakness are their policies.
After last week's News and Views however, I expressed my hope that British viewers would pass along any insight, information, or theories about the whole process that they had, because the picture over here across the pond is, well, inadequate and confusing in the extreme.
Well, they did so, in spades. Therefore in this blog, I want to try to review what some Britons shared with me.
One mystification I had was cleared up by a gentleman. My mystification concerned why Mrs. May didn't simply resign after her Brexit deal lost overwhelmingly in the House of Commons, with many even in her own Tory party voting against her. After watching or listening to a few British television or radio shows, I came away more or less with the opinion that the consensus was that May had to stay, rather than risk a general election and the possibility of a Labour government under Mr. Corbyn. In other words, better the incompetent devil you know, rather than the incompetent devil you don't. And I emphasize the "incompetence" angle, because listening to the shows, the word (or its opposite) made its way into the discussions many times.
One of the videos I stumbled across was former British Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, who resigned from Mrs. May's cabinet last year over dissatisfaction and disagreements with Mrs. May's Brexit policy. I "knew" Mr. Johnson in a sort if "distant" and "casual" way at Oxford, having bumped into him a few times in the Union Society and having helped his campaign for the presidency of the Union Society in a small way. Recently Mr. Johnson reemerged into the spotlight, giving a policy speech at the British JCB company, a manufacturer of heavy construction equipment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMO8W4QnlQQ. I don't know about you, but this sure sounds to me like the beginning of a bid to become the leader of the Tory Party. Significantly, the effect of this speech is "get Brexit over and done with", and it's the classic "Bojo" style I remember from his Oxford days.
At a deeper level, one gentleman in the UK informed me of something I did not know, namely, that under the Blair Government, the Labour Party "modernized" the parliamentary process, the net effect of which was to concentrate prerogative power in Downing street and the Prime Minister's cabinet, a fact he argued that was one of the sources of the contempt of Parliament proceedings vote against Premier May last year. This gentleman's insight rings true to me, because in 2003 the Blair Government reviewed the workings of the British government, including a thorough review of the reserved powers of the Crown (which are still considerable, contrary to the popular American view).
Another lady in the United Kingdom tied Brexit to the wider and growing continental movement against the political destruction of national cultures and sovereignties, and she indicated that the Belgian government had collapsed, or was in the process of doing so, because the protests against globaloneyist policies have spread to that country and had become violent. The reason? That country, seat of the very European Union itself, had rejected the UN migration treaty, which would, by Belgian lights, dismantle what few border controls there are left. She emphasized that that news, however, came through a contact on the continent, because no news source is reporting it, so take that with a bag of salt.
This lady had another insight, wondering if one part of the Brexit agenda may simply have been to find out how many people bought into "EU Propaganda." She even entertained the speculation that the Brexit referendum may have been "misreported", with the actual percentage of voters wanting out of the EU being much higher, but it was reported as "52%" because that was much more divisive. I too have wondered the same thing, and I suspect we're not alone.
Yet another gentleman sent along the following article, and this one was a complete shock to me, because the article, and the letter to Prime Minister May on which it is based, alleges that Mrs. May's Brexit 'deal" with the Eurocrats would essentially surrender the United Kingdom's military and considerable intelligence capabilities to the likes of Mad Madam Merkel and Marionette Macron, or to put it even more crudely, to the perpetual insanity of a Guy Verhofstadt, who never met a globaloney policy he didn't adopt and advocate with religious zealotry.
In any case, this article and letter is the occasion for today's high octane speculation:
Dearlove Guthrie Letter Published
Now, as you might have guessed, when a former head of MI-6 writes the Prime Minister in conjunction with a British Field Marshal as part of a group letter that her Brexit deal would surrender "British national security by subordinating UK defence forces to Military EU control and compromising UK intelligence capabilities," I tend to sit up and take notice, because here, at last, we get to the "deep state heart of the matter," so to speak. The letter continues by invoking that deep state, and its "special relationships": "It puts at risk the fundamental Anglosphere alliances, specifically the Five Eyes Alliance and thereby threatens western security." To read between the lines a bit (but not too much), the letter alleges that May's Brexit deal would compromise not just British, but American intelligence capabilities and independence, and the careful "special relationship" that British, Canadian, Australian, American, and New Zealander intelligence have with each other, by subordinating them to "an undemocratic organization, the European Commission", an organization that "offers subordination, not partnership." The letter even alleges that the border between the Irish Republic and Northern Ireland has been weaponized by the EU. Reading between the lines even more, the letter and its Annex are really saying that the Brexit deal is a not too subtle attempt by Germany and France, in the guise of the EU, to gain a measure of access and influence within a wider "Anglosphere" intelligence network.
This makes some sense to me, because shortly after the Brexit referendum occurred, it appeared as if Great Britain was taking measured steps - as I predicted it might - to revitalize the Commonwealth itself as a soft power bloc, and as one British lady put it to me, there certainly was a heavy dose of "Commonwealth marketing and symbolism" going on with the recent royal wedding of a British prince to, notably, an American "socialite."
Of course, all of this is still reading tea leaves, and your guess is as good as mine. And it may be even that today's or tomorrow's news will completely upset this apple cart of speculation. But for now, these letters seem to indicate that there are very major and powerful forces in play that one way or another, want to see Great Britain completely out of the EU fiasco. We're watching, it would appear, a Wimbeldon show down, not between Borg and McEnroe, but between "intelligence and electronic surveillance" and "globaloney banksters" and a certain very powerful family, also with deep roots in Britain.
See you on the flip side...
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“Rescuing” the Queen from future “Brexit-linked disorders in London”. Is this recent so-called leak about alleged plans to transport the Queen to safety just a lark? Or is it blowback against apparent signals from the crown in favour of Brexit? Even RT is talking about it:
The Brexit issue has had a significant turn around yesterday. The ERG has achieved not only to unify the Conservative party but to pass an amendment by which May has to agree an alternative to the back stop or no deal will be imminent. And since all the other amendments of the opposition have failed, the EU has only one choice. Either accept something like the trusted trader possibility for the Irish border or lose 39 billions which they desperately need as their economy is melting down. Recovering the good will of the British consumer will be much more difficult. Those that voted for Brexit are not buying EU products if they have an alternative which is why German economy is faltering. Would the EU will be so arrogant as to drop their second best customer over a little detail? that will be very bad for the whole block but it will not affect us in the UK.
Not happy w/just the Nazis overthrow of the Ukraine; they’re now going after Venezuela[Syria still on back-burner]. The U.S. is directly involved again The U.K, France, and rest the rest of the asylum are goose-stepping in-link.
Theater for the masses
Politics / legislation for large Corporations To plummet the resources of the planet whilst gaining immense wealth.
Then blame the people for destroying Our planet and condemning everyone saying something needs to be done to save it .
I said to my wife watch they will go on and on about emissions climate change for a period to inplant the seeds to the people just giving enough time for Hidden globalists
Who own the food/ oil/ petrol /Land/ pharmaceuticals /water/gas/electric to maneuver the last piece of the puzzle .
When they know all about free energy and have been hiding and misleading people for years .
Brexit is just to divide the people.
Europe in which I was lead to believe was set up for trading
And economically purposes .
But unfortunately somewhere on the yellow brick road it has become to powerful and pushes its agenda on the masses without consequence and does not care what the people say or vote for . That’s why it was conceived In the beginning
It erodes countries of their sovereignty along with its History it’s ok you can still have your flag .
Except when they lost “Shock “ from that day forward the Europe Union would never allow the Uk to leave Observe all the scare tactics used .
Well I suppose if you own all the media outlets and the politicians you can do or say Pretty much as you please.
Watching the news channels are more Amusing than Netflix .
We used to have a kids tv program called Jackanory it’s about the host reading a story .
We all live in a fantasy world should we not be free and able to settle we’re we wish no matter it’s geographic location.
This might make you laugh
I was born in the uk I currently reside in France but to return to the uk I need a passport?
Sorry for the Ramble
to consider what will come consider what has. land with people on it is being cleared. 10k missing in that last cali fire? and like 9800 trees lightning struck? the land will be used for satellites to fire down laser/maser (dew) to a central station to provide centralized (billable) power for all around. petrol will be discontinued. carbon will be taxed. everything chip-able is meter-able. kinda looks like that satellite is already operable and clearing paths and areas for their power recieving and distribution station as well as other coming infrastructure. thank heavens the oligarchs who bring this apocalypse save humanity from self destructing with profligate consumption and over population, right?
My understanding is that neither May nor the EU want a Brexit, so they are simply struggling to come up with a Brexit-in Name-Only deal, if not to walk it back to Remain altogether. It is all political theater aimed at preserving the fantasy of “democracy.”
yep. then, they can impose more austerity and immigrant trains.
It makes the Queen’s homeopath’s death even more suspicious
KatieB, that is very interesting. I missed that news somehow. You always express your fascinating thoughts when you post a comment.
In particular your thoughts and insights about the United Kingdom.
Ah thank you Enrico ?
I can’t take the credit though as Joseph blogged about it a while back.
It makes the Queen’s homeopath’s death even more suspicious
Anger over what is going on, doesn’t come close to the way many British people feel.
Speaking at Prosper Haniel, Germany’s last coal mine, Juncker said ‘if Europeans had learned from the ideals of the International Paneuropean Union, World War 2 may have been avoided. Juncker continues ; “Count of Coudenhove-Kalergi said in an impressive essay, so impressive that hardly anyone knows him anymore, he said, ‘We in Europe, if we want to avoid war between the European nations, we have to take coal and steel from the national hands.’ For years the mention of the Coudenhove-Kalergi plan has been dismissed as a ‘conspiracy theory’. Now, Junker is talking about it openly.
At the entrance to the Visitors Centre of the European Parliament, there is a plaque with these words:
“National sovereignty is the root cause of the most crying evils of our times….The only final remedy for this evil is the federal union of the peoples.”
They were written by Philip Kerr, later the Marquess of Lothian, who was a British diplomat and arch-appeaser in the build up to the Second World War.
The EU Commission never expected the result would be to Leave, and they have done everything in their power to stop/overturn it, or get another vote. Aided and abetted by Blair, his rich friends and their ilk.
Jun 2015 Independent …. ‘Brexit is not a question which arises, it’s not desired by the British,’ Juncker told a German newspaper. ‘Cameron wants to dock his country permanently to Europe.’.
4 Feb 2016 : Column 1119 UK Parliament business…The EU usually finds a way of achieving what it wants, ever closer union, even at the expense of violating its commitments. As Mr Juncker once said,’when it becomes serious, you have to lie’ . Angela Merkel has made her wishes clear:’we want more Europe, and stronger powers to interven’ . Martin Schultz, President of the European Parliament, has been particularly blunt: ‘the UK belongs to the EU.
5 MAY 2016 Speech Juncker gave in Rome..Prime Ministers must stop listening so much to their voters and instead act as ‘full time Europeans.
Jul 2016 In an interview with the Polish weekly Politiyka, European Council president Donald Tusk said on Wednesday that “no-one should be seething with desire to punish, humiliate [the UK] for what they have done to us”, but he added that “we cannot let them profit from Brexit, as that would be lethal for the EU”.
Some other quotes from Juncker:
On British calls for a referendum over Lisbon Treaty
Of course there will be transfers of sovereignty. But would I be intelligent to draw the attention of public opinion to this fact?
On the introduction of the euro
“We decide on something, leave it lying around, and wait and see what happens. If no one kicks up a fuss, because most people don’t understand what has been decided, we continue step by step until there is no turning back.”
On EU monetary policy
“I’m ready to be insulted as being insufficiently democratic.”
Jan 2018 Juncker doubled his calls for a second Brexit referendum and said he would help Britain re-join the bloc even if the UK finally does leave the European Union.( He forgot to mention taking away the rebate if we stay, so it will cost us more.)
Jan 2018 : There have also been renewed calls for a second referendum once an EU deal is done…..
What about the gross errors, missing essential documents and unjustified financial reports in the EU Budget? Billions of Euros contributed by member states are unaccounted for and that should concern all politicians and member states. So should the fact that the EU Commission has recently managed to get the ECJ to prevent the public from scrutinising their expenses claims.
Government documents released under the 30 year secrecy rule prove that from Ted Heath onwards, the government has spent huge sums deceiving us about the EU. Labour under Blair and Brown have in their turn, also worked to chain the UK to the EU. Brown signed the Lisbon Treaty which needs to be spoken about again. Read it, see what the UK will be giving up.
7 Apr 2015 Blair said in the Telegraph, ‘The public can’t be trusted to make ‘sensible choice’ on EU’. ( He should have added – unless you vote the way I want you to vote).
See FCO 26/1215; £461,400 spent on disinformation in 1972. FCO 30/1065 snooping on and sabotaging anti-EU MPs and speakers. FCO 26/1213 controlling TV presenters, journalists. FC0 26/1212, and FCO 30/1048, are covered on the eutruth website.
Also see Express Oct 2018 :We were lied to! Secret document FCO 30/1048 kept truth about EU from British for 30 years.
Daniel Hannan wrote a very good book called ‘Why vote leave’. He has also posted numerous articles online about the EU.
9 Apr 2016 see article Please, please sack me! Euro MP DANIEL HANNAN on the money and perks he gets from Brussels for making Britons’ lives harder….Just google the headline. Sometimes if I try to post links, I am either banned or the post is deleted.
Express Oct 2015 :Europe’s glory days at an end, warns Juncker.
The European Union faces long-term economic decline and the “love affair” of integration is at risk, Jean Claude-Juncker has said in a downbeat assessment of the bloc’s future.
“The European Union is not going very well,” Mr Juncker said. “And so we must ensure that we keep alive the ambitions, hopes and dreams of Europe.”
The EU’s share of global output is falling and will soon represent just 15 per cent of worldwide gross domestic product, while 80 per cent of growth is emerging from countries outside the European Union, he said.
In 2015 EU Global output was falling, and reports said it would soon be just 15%. 2017 figures also show just 15.6%.
In 2015 the ONS said about the decline in EU output : “This is because growth in non-EU economies has outpaced growth of EU economies, mainly driven by strong growth in the BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India and China) economies.”
Juncker knows this, which is another reason they will make it difficult for the UK over Brexit. Non EU economies are growing, and as Juncker said in 2015 ‘The European Union is not going very well,” Mr Juncker said. “And so we must ensure that we keep alive the ambitions, hopes and dreams of Europe.’…….
BUT Mr Juncker, not at the expense of the UK.
In written guidance to a member of parliament, seen by The Independent, experts in the House of Commons library said parliament cannot “legally and in isolation prevent a no-deal Brexit” if it votes against Theresa May’s deal.
The Commons chief clark, Sir David Natzler, confirmed that the vote MPs will take on what should happen in the event of no deal also “has no statutory significance”.
The Commons library said: “The European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018 provides three possible staging posts at which point parliament will be able to ‘have a say’ in a no-deal scenario, but none of them provide parliament with a legal veto over Brexit.
“They would give parliament an opportunity to ‘have a vote’ on the government’s proposed course of action in the absence of a deal, but not, as such, a vote on whether to accept or reject no deal.”https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-no-deal-house-of-commons-legal-veto-parliament-meaningful-vote-theresa-may-a8603541.html
Many of our MPs have personal financial interests and are doing what they want and not what the electorate want. http://www.gordonbowden.co.uk/finchley-road-fraud/ Many familiar names can be found here.
19 May 2016 : Telegraph Downing Street reportedly considered involving the police over the leaking of a letter from Rupert Soames, chief executive officer of outsourcing company Serco, to the Prime Minister.
2016 Article says :David Cameron is facing intense pressure from within Tory ranks over “shocking” claims he misled parliament following a “stitch-up” with big business over EU referendum campaigning.
In a leaked letter from February, seen by the Daily Mail, at a time when Mr Cameron said he would “rule nothing out” if he did not secure his desired changes – the head of a multi-national company raises the idea of “how to mobilise corporates” about the risks of leaving the EU.
The letter followed a meeting between the Serco boss, who is the brother of Conservative MP Sir Nicholas Soames, and Mr Cameron days earlier.
It states: “There were two points I thought I might follow up on. The first is how to mobilise corporates to look carefully at the risks Brexit represents.
“I am working with Peter Chadlington and Stuart Rose (the head of Britain Stronger in Europe) with a view to contacting FTSE 500 companies who have annual reports due for publication before June and persuading them that they should include Brexit in the list of key risks.
Jump to Jan 2019, City AM Jan 2019 :Rupert Soames (brother of Sir Nicholas in the article above), Serco chief executive, said: “We are very pleased to have been awarded contracts for two large regions by the Home Office; together these will be the largest contracts by value ever awarded to Serco.” Coincidence? Worth £4 Billion to Rupert’s company?
In 2014, Cameron gave a speech on the EU which he convieniently forgot about when he joined Remain. (On UK Gov website). He said :
Juncker did not stand anywhere and was not elected by anyone.To accept such a claim would be deeply damaging for Europe and would undermine, rather than strengthen, the EU’s democratic legitimacy. It would shift power from national governments to the European Parliament without voters’ approval.
Many people have deep misgivings about this whole approach, about a power grab through the backdoor. And we should not concede this issue when we know it will set a dangerous precedent for the future.
Under the EU Treaties, ratified by national parliaments, it is for EU heads of government to propose the candidate to head the European Commission – albeit leaders should “take account” of the European elections. Then MEPs vote on this candidate in a secret ballot. That is the clear process, enshrined in the Lisbon Treaty, after a tortuous negotiation about the balance between nation states and the European Parliament.
But certain MEPs have invented a new process whereby they are trying to both choose and elect the candidate. Each of the main political groups ran “lead candidates” – so called Spitzenkandidaten – during the elections and did a back-room deal to join forces after the elections in support of the lead candidate of the party that won the most seats. This concept was never agreed by the European Council. It was not negotiated between the European institutions. And it was never ratified by national parliaments.
Cameron said in a speech he gave in 2016 on the ways of the EU Commission :
In recent years we have also seen attempts to bypass our opt-out on justice and home affairs by bringing forward legislation under a different label.
For example, attempts to interfere with the way the UK authorities handle fraud but under the guise of legislation on the EU budget.
He recognized the problems in the way the EU was conducted and thought he could change it. He failed, then advised the UK to remain………………… He never answered any of my communications regarding his change of heart over the EU. I would love to know why he sold the British public to the EU.
Dec 2018, Corbyn said he is ready to “step in” without an election “straight away” by forming a minority government’.
That is a coup, Comrade Corbyn.
Corbyn even met with Frans Timmermans,who is one of the people in line to be Juncker’s successor, to press his case.
Comrade Corbyn just wants to walk into No 10 by any means, and if he does this, we will have a communist backed government.
NOW we also have The NOT Rt Hon Dominic Grieve, who has tabled 2 bills calling for a second referendum. Weak traitorous man.
Jul 2016 : The Government rejected a petition which a called for a second referendum on European Union membership following the Brexit vote.
The Foreign Office said: “The EU Referendum Act received Royal Assent in December 2015. The Act was scrutinised and debated in Parliament during its passage and agreed by both the House of Commons and the House of Lords. The Act set out the terms under which the referendum would take place, including provisions for setting the date, franchise and the question that would appear on the ballot paper. The Act did not set a threshold for the result or for minimum turnout.
The Prime Minister made clear in his statement to the House of Commons on 27 June, the referendum was one of the biggest democratic exercises in British history, the decision must be respected………… Not by Grieve and his Europhile buddies.
Dominic Grieve and his ilk would over turn democracy for their own benefit. Rt Hon indeed, Rt Traitor, Rt undemocratic, Rt selfserving, and out the Rt Hon door at the next election, or the second if we don’t like the result, or the third, or the fourth….This is what Grieve and his ilk have done.
Go put on your suit Grieve and join Guy Verhofstadt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-3DsJ4jyP8
The Yougov surveys are being manipulated regarding ‘people wanting a second referendum’. That information came from Peter Kellner who quoted form a Yougov survey, commissioned for the People’s Vote campaign. Peter Kellner is a former president of Yougov, and a Europhile.
We have been manipulated over what the EU is really about, and if Brexit is stopped, it will be the end of democracy.
Excellent commentary. Thank you.
Makes you wonder who really won the war? The EU is the equivalent to a versaille treaty on Britain.
Re: EU Military Unification facts to date from UK Column’s website…we are further along the road than we have been told. Here are a few links and there are more if you wish to explore the UK Column website.
One is reminded of something Oliver Wendell Holmes once mentioned, “Man’s mind stretched to a new idea, never goes back to its original dimension.” . . One could modify that expression to accommodate political, economic, industrial, and intelligence / counter intelligence security issues of the present. . .
. . . There is, indeed, a problematic concern when cultural sovereignties clash due to the policies that got them into each other’s way in the first place. . . One question that goes begging is, “Who or what has coerced continental Europeans into confrontational mode – again?”. . Those cultural sovereignties, along with the British Isles, have been stretched and it seems they need to move forward and not be expected to go back to their original form. . . Surrendering military forces, intelligence services, and associative assets that would impact additional Commonwealth partners is surely a step too far in the wrong direction – A strategic step off the deep end for non-swimmers lest they’re to become shark bait. . .
. . . It would seem that the phrase, divide and conquer, has been modified thusly, divide to be conquered when needed. . . One could say that it is very easy for populist movements of many guises to turn fascist. . . Take heed – Beware – Be warned. . . Not one to add a flash-point to your “high octane speculation,” but one might suggest in an opinionated and speculative manner, of course, that contingency measures of the wiser might have already been implemented in earnest as early as 911, if not earlier. . . It is already a multifaceted spheroid of hominid activity that seems not only terrestrial based. . .
off topic and relates to post from back when ny blew a transformer the same night a town in LA blew every transformer –
gotta love the jaded cynical point of view.
more to on topic, i thought elizabeth said all she needed to say some time ago over tea. so why is this still a thing? one might think we are not amused.
Nice video ZDB.
His end point says it all.
Give up a little more freedom
for a little more security?
this one 25 seconds in caught my attention last night. hilarious that it’s coming from a flat earth guy.
btw, does anyone want to consider the most plausible connection and control trump has with putin and all? aka: who is all?
looks like voldemortistan (that small nation who must not be named) is to be the next switzerland – the bitcoin / bis that replaces the current bis.
Tower of Basel of indeed
Steven Keen follows the money on Brexit & Yellow Vests
As always who are the shadow masters and what web are they weaving to entrap the World?
Johnson was definitely trying to make a bid for PM. A lot of the organised Leave campaign groups were pushing Johnson as PM. He made too many gaffs though to be taken seriously – one of which being his bridge idea from France to England ???
Some Gizars may remember Yanis Varoufakis, a quasi-Greek economist who served as the Greek Minister of Finance from January to July 2015. He resigned when Alexis Tsipras gave-in to every bankster (the troika of lenders) demand. Here is Varoufakis on Brexit :
“Varoufakis: Run Down the Brexit Clock”
Also, I would also urge readers to look at the Brexit ‘garbage’ from a top-down perspective: No matter what their exact composition, the PTB want a pyramidal, top-down control mechanism which is ‘administered’ by ultra-bigwigs whom they appoint and direct. The appearance of democracy, with the reality of dictatorship. That is the modus operandi of this power group. Once you have the ‘key’ to their machinations, you can pick out the movements of the spider along the web…
May is looking, and has been acting, from my perspective; like a trojan horse w/multiple objectives.
Immigration has & continues to be used by the NWO against the interests of the nation states/cultures of the people.
Corbyn wants a 2nd referendum.
A continuing case of leaders representing
technocratic NWO interests over
Nation States/human cultural interests.
Are the people’s candidates
all ending up being as trojan horses?
Greece is an example.
Is the Trump card
an exception, or the rule?
The Publication & Signatories say more than the letter.
Dialectics….will it N(ever) end?
Mad Madame Merkel, Marionette Macron, Moaning May(be not) . . . 3 leaders of countries with nuclear capabilites and NONE OF THEM HAVE CHILDREN!! Why do these people even have a say in what our future is? They are UNDERQUALIFIED! They do not represent the interests of the human race. They havent even reproduced… if anyone soyboy crybaby starts whining about maybe they cant biologically reproduce.. well tough! That disqualifies them as well!
The IRA did ‘some’ good things.. like bomb Mountbatten.. shame about the rentboy being on board..
Ireland is as full of pedos as GB.. its just Gladio style excursions from idiots who think people are still listening to Radio Freedom and simply must have to have UN protection from Mother Russia, the big bad bear..
Lots of PIE…. but then again . . . lots of Druids as well.
What happened to that Westminster pedo file that Cameron told May to look into? Did she do a Brittain? Wouldnt be surprising considering her father’s inclinations…
I don’t understand why the Rothschilds would care about whether the UN controlled british intelligence or not…. (unless family divisions are really THAT intent on screwing each other up…)
I mean.. you have Mayer Amschel Rothschild financing Adam Weishaupt, you have Ernest II, Duke of Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg sheltering Adam when Bavaria outlaws the Illuminati for advocating suicide, atheism and manuels sur abortion were found following raids on members homes.. and invisible ink recipes.. and plans to create a female order.. You have Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha marrying Queen Victoria.. who thought she was a secret Jew..who gave Judah Benjamin a place to hide after he escaped justice in USA… you have Nathan Mayer Rothschild, who bought out the Bank of England after Napolean’s war.. and despite intense scrubbing and washing and whitescrubbing and blanket bare faced lies (who would have believed it of them…?) of the Ratchild Despotcy over Internet.. Rothschild DID sell stock to crash the market before buying back all the bonds (seeing as he owned the bank already..) but the Rottenchild’s will have you believe that it’s ok.. because he made his money back later… which is what would have happened to everyone who bought the bonds originally….before they sold them in panic due to the lies of Nathan…
Anyway.. Mi5 and Mi6 have been run by pedophiles for too long. UN is full of pedophiles too.. Five Eyes.. yeh.. (you’ll notice thats one all seeing eye per country..) Pedophiles all over the intelligence community.. This is what happens when you run drug networks with criminals to coerce politicians with prostitutes (of all ages…..) to vote for banking immunity and big Pharma.. (should be Pig Farmers..) and the law just doesnt apply to you….
Let it burn.
Indeed, most if not all politicians seem to be compromised in one way or another in order to be coerced into voting the right way.
As for Boris, well he’s seen as a political clown figure in the UK so I can’t realistically see him becoming the next Tory leader. If anyone, it would be Jacob Rees-Mogg. With regards to the ‘no vote of confidence’ it may actually have been a clever ploy by May as she forced Corbyn’s hand to raise it knowing full well she had enough voted to win – just. Consequently, she is now untouchable as Tory leader for another year.
Ultimately, this is all theatre of course as they’re all puppets doing the bidding of theire shadowy masters for the reasons pointed out above. Do the people behind the curtain really want BREXIT? Who knows.
I think QE2 wants Brexit. Don’t underestimate her influence.
Could that be why the Duke was involved in a recent road ‘ accident’??? He complained of a bright sun blinding him when attempting to pull out of a junction prior to being hit. On a similar note, Princess Di’s vehicle supposedly crashed after the driver was blinded by bright ‘paparazzi’ lights. Makes you wonder whether messages are being sent. QE2s doctor recently died at what was a relatively young age as well.
I agree… the Illuminati are much more significant than people realize, and their connections as well
Some interesting considerations here, appropriately posted today, January 22nd (2×11!) for the signature by two politically weak leaders Macron and Merkel at Aix-La-Chapelle (Aachen in German) of the French treaty with (surrender to?) Germany, consigning the French Security Council seat to the Reich in its present globalist incarnation. The treaty covers military (nuclear?), security (protest repression?) and other cooperation. It could lead to a more important German role in France’s “former” colonies where, thanks to the CFA Franc created by the Bank of France, the formally independent countries have left their mineral resources and populations – think weaponized migration – up for grabs.
This treaty makes the “European Union” superfluous, a mere shell, antagonizing Italy and other countries. It will be interesting to see to what lengths the UK “remainers” (also known as “remoaners”) and their media outlets will go to in the coming weeks to justify their position, which has just become even more untenable..
This all goes back to a quiet war between the aristocracy and the bankers, which the aristocracy lost. Since then intelligence has been in the hands of the bankers. There are six eyes in that five eye family; Mossad is never mentioned, but it is there none the less.
Yep, with the sixth eye possibly being the controlling eye. Note how the American intel agencies send a ‘raw’ copy of the data they collect straight to Israel :
I am not the only person on this Island (Ireland) to notice the “convenient timing” of the re-starting of the bombings in Northern Ireland this time by the “New” IRA.
Since the return of a militarized border and The Troubles are the main excuses used to try and prevent a normal/hard border here.
Not to mention that such a border would be nearly impossible to “secure” without renegotiating where it lies (unlikely to happen) since these days it runs through the middle of village high streets (main streets) across rural dirt roads and other nearly impossible to police areas.
While it is possible that a return of a hard border could risk England having to re-create essentially a military occupation if The Troubles return in full force, like I said I am not the only person to notice that just as things are coming down to the wire; suddenly the bombings (complete with old fashioned warnings, the stolen van the whole old pattern) suddenly come “back” after 20 years of very little of this.
I am not saying the Deep State gave a “go” signal or something, but I suspect someone(s) did; what remains to be seen is if the old “Ulster” terror groups/paramilitaries will now respond and come out of the woodwork?
No one knows but a poll this morning showed the majority of people in the Republic are worried that a hard border will lead to a remilitarization of the North.
I suspect that could happen without outside encouragement but the timing is “interesting.”
Melodi – ex-pat Californian living in rural Ireland for 23 years and counting.
Well Melodi Ireland’s EU membership – and even worse, its adoption of the euro – has had all the drawbacks seen in other member countries including the UK, even if politicians pretend to believe the contrary.
The island of Ireland is certainly a stunning piece of real estate; but why does the crown go to such lengths to retain jurisdiction? Ulster is unlikely to be a net contributor to HM Treasury. Is it because of Atlantean links and the influence of the secret societies? There has to be more to it than meets the eye. Otherwise seceding Ulster to Eire and putting a hard border down the Irish Sea would seem like a relatively easy Brexit option. It’s only a few years ago that the crown was allegedly willing to secede Scotland from the UK. So why not Ulster?
Giants. Read further back in history about ‘England’ Foglamp.. before the Romans turned up. 😉
Wikipedia: “The Tuath(a) Dé Danann, also known by the earlier name Tuath Dé (‘tribe of the gods’), are a supernatural race in Irish mythology.”
The O’Briens, in their magnum opus The Shining Ones, trace the Tuatha Dé Danann as one of the ‘teaching groups’ of the Anunnaki which were formed as the ancient Sumerian state broke-up under a combination of clan-politicking and a resultant (high-tech) civil war.
I would suspect, as Foglamp noted, “There has to be more to it [whether to cede Ulster to Eire and put a hard border down the Irish Sea] than meets the eye.” Presumably, something known about ‘stuff’ the Tuatha Dé Danann left behind…
Since I’d rather avoid reading a set of lies that people have agreed upon, Kahlypso, would you have any recommendation(s) for truthy pre-Roman British history books, please? I don’t believe “1066 And All That” went quite as far back as the Romans!
Was Machiavelli Irish?
Well, the issue is partly that only about 50 percent of Ulster’s population would think that was a good idea, the other 50 percent want to stay part of the UK.
Right now the issue is that Ms. May is barely clinging to power with the “support” of the most radical of the “Unionist” parties – the same people that have helped make restoring the Northern Ireland Assembly impossible and then asked for London to “bring back the rule from London” something even few Unionists actually want.
So, if Ms. May were to even “hint” at “giving” Ulster to Northern Ireland she would be out of power within hours.
Not to mention that Northern Ireland might be in chaos by that evening, if not before.
This situation is very hard to explain to people who haven’t lived with this – I spent a lot of time in Northern Ireland (though I live down here) and I don’t have a “side” just trying to understand the issues of everyone; including the fact that the Ulster-Scots have been in Northern Ireland about as long as Europeans have lived in most of North America.
So you can’t just “write them off” either, as for Ireland and the EU when they joined they were about a 3rd world country; but they are now learning the price of the EU helping them become a first world country.
As for why Britain wants Ireland (and never really saw it as totally independent) two reasons that I know of: Harbors and land.
The UK is a big Island with a huge population that can’t feed itself, Ireland is a next door fairly large Island with a small population that can.
There are probably other reasons but that’s enough for this post.
Melodi…in lovely County Offaly where the cows are king!
Very delicate situation. I hope you are safe.
However, UK will get organic produce from Algeria, and other vegetables and fruits from Australia, India, America and anti EU Eastern European countries. The Queen also owns boat loads of farming land in the UK that sits fallow so in theory this could be leased cheaply to farmers and could create a market if this strategy was employed. UK does not need Ireland for its veg etc.
Hey. Curious huh. In the long run can Ireland remain in the EU after “Brexit”?
SQUARE POINT THEATER 13
Punch and Judy.
Lord Rottenchild’s waterloo.
Brexit by broomstick.