V.T. spotted this one, and it's one of those articles that make you go "hmmm...". In my case, I'm not only going "hmmm," but my suspicion meter is into the red zone bordering on purple. But we'll get back to today's high octane speculative suspicion in a moment.

The article concerns itself with recently discovered "co-orbital objects" which have at least one scientist wondering if they might be "extraterrestrial probes" put in place to monitor us:

Newly Discovered “Co-Orbital Objects” Could Be Extraterrestrial Probes Watching Us

The article begins by noting the anomaly:

The Facts: A recently published paper by Physicist Dr James Benford in the Astronomical Journal hypothesizes that newly discovered near-Earth objects (there are many thousands) might be a hub for extraterrestrial 'probes' to monitor the human race.

It goes on to offer this:

Physicist Dr James Benford, a member of SETI, recently published a paper hypothesizing that we are perhaps being monitored. The study was published in the Astronomical Journal.

There are many who share this belief, including former Senator Mike Gravel, who said in an interview that ‘Something is monitoring the planet, and they Are monitoring it very cautiously.’ I personally believe that our race has been known about for a very long time and we are indeed being monitored by an extraterrestrial presence. Why? Well, perhaps the planet is more important than we are. Perhaps we are a threat to others and the planet? There are a number of different scenarios one could hypothesize.

Dr. Norman Bergrun, a scientist and engineer who was part of NASA’s voyager program and worked at NASA for decades at the Ames Research Centre,  made it a clear point in his book, “Ringmakers of Saturn” to emphasize that these objects (which are intelligently controlled, according to him, by extraterrestrials) have probably been around much longer than we have. He also states that if there was any ill intent towards our planet, something probably would have happened by now .He also worked at Lockheed Martin where he managed the Polaris missile tests. Unfortunately, he recently passed. I was lucky enough to receive a copy of his book from one of his family members.

I share the belief that if there was any ill intent or that the ET presence represented some sort of threat, something would have already happened by now.

And toward the beginning of the article we get the usual "disclosure spin":

On the other hand, we have a great deal of information that has yet to hit the mainstream alluding to the fact that we, or at least some of us, know for a fact that we are not alone, and have been privy to the evidence suggesting that we have been visited in the past, and are being visited now.

This evidence comes in the form of witness testimony from astronauts like Dr. Edgar Mitchell, for example, who has told the world on multiple occasions that deep within the Department of Defense and the Military Industrial Complex, it’s well known that we are being visited and have been visited, and that a massive cover-up has been on going for a number of years. Dr. Brian O’Leary is another great example of an astronaut who has spoken out. There have been multiple insider leaks, as well as academicians and hundreds of high ranking military personnel from around the world who have also said the same thing.


Louis Elizondo, a former high ranking Department of Defense official and part of the TTSA academy that released multiple videos of UFOs from the Navy (which the Navy recently confirmed were real) has said that he believes these objects are extraterrestrial, but officially, they’ve purposefully stayed away from this question because a lot of people have “feelings” towards it.

Needless to say, I have problems with all of this kind of analysis, and that's the subject of today's high octane suspicion. In case you haven't noticed, there's been a slight "uptick" in this type of UFO reportage lately, even in the lamestream media. No less than the New York Times, for example, reported on the Louis Elizondo story, with its accompanying videos and pictures. Color me skeptical simply for the reason that we have known " connections between that paper, and between Elizondo, and that "community", and everyone knows that the the intelligence "community" doesn't lie, right? And as for Mitchell and O'Leary, we have a similar epistemological problem, for as astronauts they are connected to the government, and this government has never lied about anything, right, with maybe the exception of the JFK assassination, Waco, Ruby Ridge, Oklahoma City bombing, 9/11, the BCCI scandal, Iran Contra, the financial meltdown and bailouts, the missing trillions of dollars, and a few other minor things. So if tomorrow the government would suddenly "come clean" and announce the presence of ET, why should anyone believe them on this one issue? (And there's that pesky problem mentioned by Richard C. Hoagland in his book Dark Mission, that there are indicators that the Apollo astronauts may have been deliberately subjected to some sort of mind and memory manipulation. And those techniques and technologies certainly exist and did exist at the time. But I digress.)

My other problem is one which I've addressed previously, and that is the assumption that the "visitors" pose no threat. If they were a class III civilization on the Kardashev scale, probably not. But if class I or II, then maybe they do, especially if one factors in my speculations that humanity has already achieved the ability to engineer systems on planetary and perhaps even stellar scales. If that's the case, then one might be looking at a kind of "interplanetary" version of the doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction.

Don't get me wrong: if the ancient cosmic war hypothesis, and its corollary, the ancient Versailles Template hypothesis, is true, then it stands to reason the victors would establish a network to "watch" the planet and its scrappy inhabitants to make sure they don't break out of the quarantine-demilitarized zone around some celestial version of the demilitarized Rhineland. And while we're speculating, there's also always the possibility that "they", like some celestial France, have simply grown tired and too weary to confront the upstarts across the river.

See you on the flip side...

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. europaarise on November 12, 2019 at 5:48 am

    The author received funding by Breakthrough Foundation which was founded by Yuri Milner (Kremlin investor?) with help by Stephen Hawking & Mark Zuckerberg and others Sergey Brin (Google), Ma Huateng (China Billionaire), Priscilla Chan (Zuck’s wife) and Anne Wojcicki (ex 23andMe & Married to Brin). Interesting group of people but not sure if the Foundation is shady.

    Kremlin Cash Behind Billionaire’s Twitter and Facebook Investments –

    PS I read James Benford’s paper and it’s at least interesting.
    PSS Did Russia fund Social Media to undermined American or to Free America or is it just Russian phobia? Is the Kremlin funding Breakthrough Foundation (Alien investigations) which would be funding Benford’s paper?

  2. jimaparks on October 27, 2019 at 7:28 am

    I think it’s encouraging that an academic scientist is thinking outside the box in this way, and not being called a lunatic by the establishment. Waiting for radio signals from ET hasn’t garnered many results. I think it was Greg Bishop who pointed out that if there is ever big ET contact scenario, the governments of the world with their militaries, scientists and policy makers won’t be asking prescient ufologists for their experitize.

    But what do I know? I could be a government disinformation agent. I don’t believe that I am, but maybe I’m the subject of mind control. Maybe you are. This path of speculation goes nowhere. But I suppose it’s more fun than an introductory philosophy class, where you learn about ontology and the unsettling concept of solipsism.

    I’ll leave you with an observation and a question. A thermos keeps hot liquids hot, and cold liquids cold. But how does it know which to do?

  3. Nidster - on October 18, 2019 at 11:44 pm

    Just for fun and what if’s. Let’s expand the hypothesis and accept the Cosmic War hypothesis as fact. That a quarantine-demilitarized zone was established along with a system to ‘watch’ our local system. In the meantime ‘the watchers’ became entangled with another class I or II civilization, in a hostile way. Perhaps their own ‘plate’ is overflowing with immediate problems, to the extent their own existence is at stake. They could be monitoring our system, but they have ‘no time’ to bother us in any significant way. ‘They’ could be so pre-occupied with their own problems that their ‘left-behinds’ are now just winging-it. That would account for why the same worn-out game-plan is being played-out over-and-over-and-over. Or, in another twist of circumstance our system could very well be under ‘protection’. Then, once we actually put-down their left-behind’s, purge that putrid system of governance to a system that actually respects all people we will have passed a ‘test’ and earned our rite of passage.

  4. Dave Walton on October 17, 2019 at 4:56 am

    The best way to keep a “watch” on the pesky earthlings would be to guide its evolution via manipulating its culture, history and language etc. Can we detect such currents or group(s) in history that survive to this day? From the advent of Monotheism, everything changed; as researcher Pierre Sabak termed it: the ancient “saucer cults (UFO)” manifested as monotheism. Since the evolution of the universe is intimately connected with the evolution of the life that inhabit/create it (Rupert Sheldrake – bicocentrism, Robert Lanza) ) then for what purpose is an advanced species or genetic cousin using “lessor” species? Put differently, the “Cosmic War” is essentially a spiritual war, for the universe is a reflection of the minds of living beings, right on down to the “habitual laws” that evolve, and are not “constant” as we are told (Sheldrake). Put differently yet again, to control/direct the universe you need to control/direct the life which is it’s creator/created as they are one and the same thing.

  5. Maatkare3114 on October 16, 2019 at 3:10 pm

    Apparently Earth’s constant companion 2016 HO3, could be a ‘lurker’. These near-Earth objects provide an ideal way to watch our world from a secure natural object. Co-orbitals provide resources an ETI might need: materials, constant solar energy, a firm anchor, concealment. (
    It wouldn’t surprise me one bit to find that we are being monitored. The Book of Enoch and the Watchers has already been mentioned. There are many more.

    Thanks to Dana Thomas for the link to the Express article today : Asteroid danger: 100% certainty of impact warns space expert…..One of many recent similar articles.

  6. Loxie Lou Davie on October 16, 2019 at 12:30 pm

    Oh, WOW!! What interesting conversations!!! Glad somebody mentioned the Book of Enoch!! (cough, cough) “The Watchers”!!

    As the daughter of a Baptist minister & having over 70 years in that tradition, I find it very sad that even our scientists have felt they must interpret all they find within the tradition of what has been handed to us by other human beings.

    Thanks for mentioning Norm Bergrum!! I know C.A. Fitts feels it was his discoveries that propelled our next move into space; kept secret from the public, of course!! I was flabbergasted to learn that one of the craft he saw was 2,000 mi. wide!!!

    I would say our Controllers are trying to figure out how best to break it to the masses that we are not alone in the Universe, & never have been!! Who knows, maybe this matrix we live in is just someone else’s “experiment”?! What does one do with an experiment?? One tinkers with it, right?!

    I found very interesting the experiences of Robert Stanley & George Kavassilas.
    Both contend that what we are living in is not the True Reality. Each person lives within his or her own “bubble”. Belief systems are just that…..Belief Systems!! Why go to war with each other fighting over them???

    I have been intrigued by the Runic comments!! How does that system explain our beginnings & our purpose here? Thanks to all for the comments!! I learn so much each time I read them!!

    • OrigensChild on October 18, 2019 at 12:21 pm

      The Book of Enoch? Yes, I’ve read it a few times. It comes in three versions, and I’ve read at least two of them. Since you are interested in these things, you might want to consider a compilation of texts by James Charlesworth. On my long laundry lists of other textual materials to read are “The OT Pseudoepigrapha.” It came up during a conversation between Dr. Farrell and Georgeanne Hughs on the Byte Show. That site is gone, and my copies of the MP3s were lost this year in a catestrophic computer event, but many of those interviews would be of interest to you as well.

      • Nidster - on October 18, 2019 at 9:55 pm

        The Byte Show interviews are some of my favorites, and I believe I have all of them. If anyone is interested in copies give me a shout!

  7. BlueWren on October 16, 2019 at 1:06 am

    Personally, I think it’s leading to an ET op. Remember Von Braun’s stages of deception: Soviet Union, Terrorists, Asteroids, ETs.

    • anakephalaiosis on October 16, 2019 at 7:43 am

      Nazi is fifth category, that Wernher von Braun left out. The compact majority is driven by fear, and herded in direction.

      Opinion makers can control the beast of scaremongering. The psyop is to have backup monsters, when spell is broken.

      Spell breaking is mind game. It is just a trick. Simple but draconic.

  8. anakephalaiosis on October 16, 2019 at 12:45 am

    The characteristics of those “born from above” is the Cross of the “four rivers” in Genesis, and that is celestial geometry.

    When dividing the corners of the world, the biblical eight canonical hours are defined. Further division reveals the 32-point compass.

    This is the Runic system, in the rose window of Notre Dame – the fingerprint of the original ET. Runic ideology and Genesis are a perfect cognate. The same thing!

  9. goshawks on October 15, 2019 at 8:19 pm

    The ‘elites’ have been pigeonholing any data around ETs (including sightings & abductions) for seventy years, if not millennia (see the ancient Book of Enoch). They have also been stringing-along Hopefuls for many decades with the carrot of Disclosure. (“Any time now!”)

    However, we are facing a Debt crisis. The whole planet is so loaded-up with Debt that the ‘elites’ are being faced either with a System Crash or a Jubilee, neither of which they want. So, this is a perfect time to roll-out the Alien Disclosure to side-step the whole Debt-resolution situation (including them hanging from the rafters).

    Any true Alien Disclosure is going to rock our economy to its roots. Throw-in new tech (or hidden tech) and many industries are going to go away. Chaos-in-the-streets time. And, a perfect time to ‘reformulate’ our money system – possibly in a way to benefit the ‘elites’.

    So, with the talk of many banks possibly going under and the Central Bank system not being able to stem the tide, what better time to roll-out Disclosure?

    • eliot on October 15, 2019 at 9:03 pm

      “The whole planet is so loaded up with debt that the ‘elites’ are faced with either a system crash or a jubilee, neither of which they want.” I disagree goshawks… I think the debt is planned, choreographed and designed to lead to our enslavement. (Not sure how the UFOs fit into the debt plan though)

  10. marcos toledo on October 15, 2019 at 7:30 pm

    The Moon would make the perfect monitoring platform for ET. Plus some more monitoring devices here on Earth in the oceans, forests, deserts, mountains under the wire so to speak. Also, can we trust our elites not to sell us out to whoever is out there anyway?

  11. WalkingDead on October 15, 2019 at 6:00 pm

    Given the “recently” discovered cyclical nature of catastrophes/glacial/inter glacial periods which this planet is prone to, it is not inconceivable that we may have “distant cousins” which may have made it off planet in the distant past. There even appears to be evidence to support an interplanetary war theory in that past between warring factions. That we are under some form of “quarantine” for reasons unknown to us is a possibility. Monitoring of a species under such conditions would seem to be wise. Given our warlike nature, I would think it would be mandatory. It is possible that we are the threat, not the other way around. I certainly wouldn’t want a species such as ours out in the Universe causing mischief every where we went “colonizing” and “bringing democracy” to the rest of the Universe. One needs only to observe the current state of the world to realize we’re not a nice nor particularly intelligent or honorable species.
    Maybe that cyclical catastrophe cycle is the great filter that prevents a species from traveling the stars. Time is required for maturity and wisdom to develop, and we may not have enough of it to make it before we are reset and have to begin again.

    • Westcoaster on October 15, 2019 at 7:06 pm

      Your theory meshes nicely with the “walk-about continent” theory, allegedly from which the “great flood” story perhaps originated. And maybe it’s happened more than once, which is why the story has been repeated so many times.

  12. Westcoaster on October 15, 2019 at 5:30 pm

    As one who follows Dr. Jacobs (formerly of Temple U) and his “hubrid alien abduction hypothesis”, the experiencers keep mentioning “the change”, and when it happens “we will all be happy”. Now, what this means is subject to interpretation; my feeling is “the change” will involve revelations of the E.T. prescience here on Earth ranging to “we’re here, we’ve integrated into the Human genome and there’s nothing you can do about it.
    We certainly are hearing/seeing more “official” confirmation of E.T. and they’re not light-years away, they’re here.

  13. Randy on October 15, 2019 at 2:15 pm

    1.)After the Tower of Babel “moment” …stands ta reason “they” would be “monitoring” …us ? or 2.) Our hidden “elites” are /have been paying “tributes” to “them” ??? ….until such time when “they” are not !?!(might that time be close) or lol 3.) There is a “crowd” of warring “factions” & WE are the prize ? …after ALL folks WHAT is the common denominator in all this …stuff. hmmm …us & THAT begs the question ! WHAT is IT about ….us? man I really hope there is no Predators mud mud Mud MUD !!! 🙂

  14. Robert Barricklow on October 15, 2019 at 12:11 pm

    If there was any ill intent…
    something would have happened by now.
    Of course. The question is: Can we count that high?

    • Robert Barricklow on October 15, 2019 at 12:18 pm

      There has been interference.
      How many times?
      Is it continuous?
      Contiguous? Like a wickedly twisted topological metaphor?

  15. Robert Barricklow on October 15, 2019 at 12:02 pm

    In the opening paragraphs I’m already beginning to see the makings of the Boston Tea Party Indians[false flag].
    Remember our [“intrepid”/HA!], [“investigative”/LOL]pre$$ sings to a homogenized, politicized choir. So anything getting mainstreamed into the public eye is sky-f***ing-high suspect, to say the least!

    • Robert Barricklow on October 15, 2019 at 12:07 pm

      In the opening paragraphs I’m already seeing the Boston tea Party[false flag]. Remember our press poodles sing with an homogenized, politicized choir. So anything getting mainstreamed into the public eye is highly suspect.

      • Robert Barricklow on October 15, 2019 at 12:07 pm

        # strikes.
        I/m out of here!

    • sagat1 on October 15, 2019 at 10:01 am

      A joke figure who was dating one half of the Cheeky Girls (X Factor contestants – says it all) and old enough to be her grandad.

  16. Doug Bowersox on October 15, 2019 at 8:43 am

    “I share the belief that if there was any ill intent or that the ET presence represented some sort of threat, something would have already happened by now.” JPF
    Maybe, but also maybe ET is waiting for the “harvest” of earth to become mature ala movie “Jupiter Jones”. Or like Revelation 14 English Standard Version (ESV), “19 So the angel swung his sickle across the earth and gathered the grape harvest of the earth and threw it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. 20 And the winepress was trodden outside the city, and blood flowed from the winepress, as high as a horse’s bridle, for 1,600 stadia. [c]About 184 miles.” The “harvest” image just doesn’t seem to jive with a God ” Who loved the world so much that…….” It is terrifying imagery.

    • OrigensChild on October 15, 2019 at 4:19 pm

      As long as we understand JPF is quoting the article–not making this assertion. JPF has in many forums stated just the opposite–even here in this article. The ancient record hardly convinces anyone who reads the texts carefully that these beings were benign and good.

      With respect to the passage you quoted, it appears no one here is aware that there was a serious question as to whether to include Revelation in the official canon for a variety of reasons–some of which are occasionally cited here. Then again, too many commentators here appear to be unaware of the historical treatment of this text within the Christian tradition. Those early Church Fathers who endorsed its inclusion looked at that text with very different eyes than today’s modern evangelical. There was a time when allegory and soteriology was interpreted far more seriously than today. I don’t typically read this text from within the Darby tradition, so I am very much aware of your consternation and your paradox.

      • goshawks on October 15, 2019 at 7:48 pm

        OC: “…there was a serious question as to whether to include Revelation in the official canon for a variety of reasons…”

        Yep, and it could even be seen as a ‘sanctified’ way to achieve control through fear. We have to remember that the Bible was put-together in A.D. 325 by Roman Emperor Constantine in the Council of Nicea at his villa . There is every reason in the world (pun intended) to suspect the Bible was ‘politically adjusted’ as to what was included and what was left out.

        Speaking of which, the ancient Book of Enoch got the opposite treatment. After its rejection by the Council of Laodicea in A.D. 364, the Book of Enoch was so thoroughly expunged from the West that it vanished for a thousand years – only to have a copy discovered in Ethiopia in 1773. A bit too revealing?

        • OrigensChild on October 15, 2019 at 8:04 pm

          Goshawks, I hear the misrepresentation of the canon under Constantine a lot, but the list of books in the NT was almost 2 centuries old by that time. The canonical books of the NT was compiled far earlier than this. The only thing that occurred at this synod was establishing the canon for the whole church.

          • goshawks on October 15, 2019 at 8:40 pm

            OC, I heard it a different way. (And not to start a side-debate here.) My understanding is that there were major differences in sub-groups of Christianity, stemming from the two centuries of time passing from the original ‘event’. This included many books which are now ‘non-canonical’ precisely because they were subsequently excluded. Elaine Pagels (among many others) wrote on that aspect, if you are interested.

          • OrigensChild on October 16, 2019 at 9:43 am

            I understand. I would not want to argue either. For the record I am very familiar with both Dr. Pagels and Dr. Ehrman. I used her book on the Gnostic Gospels in the first edition during the early 1980s in a course on Nag Hammadi. I’ve encountered Dr. Ehrman and his work through many second hand channels. Though I respect them to some small degree, I do find wonder if their zealousness for their academic field of study, which is primarily gnostic texts, has bordered on the extreme with respect to their arguments on ecclesiastical matters. There is some merit to the general thesis that during the 2nd, 3rd and 4th centuries there was organic growth period among some Christian communities where variants to Christianity did occur, but most Christianity communities tried very hard to remain within the apostolic tradition. The list of texts approved was firmly set within the Patristic writings themselves long before Constantine’s council was convened. I guess what I’m saying is: this theory does not make sense.

          • OrigensChild on October 16, 2019 at 12:07 pm

            BTW: If you are interested in a low cost lecture series by an academician regarding the rise of Christianity and the fall of Paganism, the Great Courses has one by Dr. Kenneth Harl of Tulane that is worth careful attention. It’s as fair an assessment of the historical record from that community that I’ve found to date. It doesn’t deal with any of the alternative history and conspiracy theory parts, but his class does provide you a very clear historical picture with respect to Orthodox community’s development. The odd thing is, I can see signatures within these lectures of things that dove-tail back to some of this alternative research, but all of the stuff seems to be an attempt to hijack the movement rather than to define it. With Islam I think that group was successful–but it appears to me that Orthodox Christianity resisted that impulse for a very long time. It wasn’t until the split between the East and the West where I saw things signs of tampering–and that tampering seemed more prevalent within the Roman Catholic tradition rather than the East. That’s my impression of it at least. I like honest scholarship. Too many people are trying to grind axes–and I don’t want to be part of any of this crowd. If I have offended please forgive me.

          • goshawks on October 16, 2019 at 5:00 pm

            OC, thanks for the informed reply. (And no offense taken. I hope the same as regards me.) You might be interested in The Saker . He has written several columns on Orthodox Christianity from a Russian perspective. He is very well read, having some sort of degree in that religion.

            I tend to be more conspiratorial-minded around religion than most. On Christianity, I partially align with Ralph Ellis. He has shown many ‘discrepancies’ regarding Saul/Paul/Josephus and likely information warfare via the Romans using him as an ‘asset’. Also, through their near-extermination of contemporaneous Jewish groups, the Romans had an ‘information chokehold’ on founding Christian doctrines. I believe that they used this situation more than is admitted.

            I definitely acknowledge the spiritual experiences that various ‘founders’ had. I have had many experiences of my own. For myself, I am being forced-back on the raw experiences and what I can learn from them…

          • OrigensChild on October 17, 2019 at 7:11 am

            Then I consider myself blessed. For what its worth I’m kicking around the idea that in the Arian controversy may have the seeds of one of the earliest attempts to hijack the Christian tradition. Most courses within church and ecclesiastical history deals with the doctrinal elements. Dr. Harl, though from a gate-keeper millieau with extensive archaeological interests in Turkey, deals with some of the theological material, but is primarily focused on the historical data in broad strokes. When you look at their theology and compare it to Islam you see the contours of “familiar patterns”. They were even, after Constantine, able to penetrate their doctrines and agents into the imperial government and archives through members of Constantine’s family and spent a great deal of time among the Germanic peoples. Now the renegade theologian from which that tradition came was Arius–with both East and West rejecting him on similar grounds initially. Arius comes from Egypt–and that should pique your curiosity. If I were going to look at these type of conspiracies, and try to link the work of Ellis, et. al. to any form of Christianity, I would look there first. But remember, forged documents are an old, old game that two can play. When presented with two sets of documents that are imcompatible one has to judge their merit by some reasonable criteria. Methinks the early church fathers were reacting to more than just trying to preserve their orthodox teachings. This is where I will now end my speculations on the matter. I wish you a glorious day.

  17. D J on October 15, 2019 at 8:39 am

    The moon??

  18. Billy Bob on October 15, 2019 at 8:22 am

    Thanks for the early morning laugh wonderful way to start the day…I remember watching Flash Gordon. Pretty high tech special effects for the era though the story lines were ancient. Maybe all the CCTV cameras everywhere are actually being beamed back as subscriber channels as pay per view….thousands and thousands of delightful entertainment venues featuring those barbaric and hilarious earthlings. The wanna be sophisticates.

  19. Richard on October 15, 2019 at 8:04 am

    It’s unfortunate that witness testimony doesn’t carry the weight it once had before truth became an option. There was a time when honorable perambulating Peripatetic’s, versed in the natural philosophy of the era, were listened to as they disclosed a truth in word form they knew best, to those who’d listen attentively. Many folks still seek and inquire of the wonders their senses reveal through observation and responses from the environment.

    Today, a truth seems to need to thump one in the noggin goofy or trip your feet while in a fast pace to be recognized, only to be distracted by the fall and pain that follows. One question goes begging, “When did that imposed impediment from cognition first get traction and become a sticking point and obstacle to sensory awareness and observation?” There’s a limit to the deceitful having their way in all manner and form and of space time they are apparent. Whether cosmic, covert or convenient their kind, one prefers to stay out of their way for finding it. They’re so deserving.

    The Others do not need hypotheses, theory or proofs that they are. They already know that they are and are not a yak-ka-thon that needs to prove anything to anyone, especially, to themselves. In one’s most humble opinion, of course. Now, establishing a purposeful dialogue one recognizes as a dialogue with them remains a feat yet to achieve.

  20. anakephalaiosis on October 15, 2019 at 5:50 am

    The Druidic Rune system approaches the great unknown, that is unfathomable. Therefore the process of mind automatically seeks analogies to comprehend.

    To avoid the cul-de-sac of delusion, one must stay in the empty void. Only an empty thought can reveal the source of thoughts. (Every branch leads to trunk – and trunk is expressed in every branch.)

    Point is to go beyond the beginning of thoughts, to deduce origin of thoughts, and from there induce principles, that are pure ideas. That defines the Runic ideas, whose origin is ET.

    • Alex on October 15, 2019 at 8:13 am

      It depends what you understand by “ET”. If we consider the universe being topologically different in a higher dimension, then “they” become “us”. Perhaps the huge distances across the Universe are an optical illusion inherently embedded in our perception of time and space.

      Personally I consider consciousness as a mean of travel and communication way more interesting than our current technologies. The feeling of “being alive” and the self-consciousness that arises in higher structured organisms is shared among any empathic living creature; it is actually the same feeling. We are deeply connected with any form of empathic Life, wherever it is. If there is a concept that resembles this idea, it would be quantum entanglement, keeping in mind that it’s only an analogy.

      It is also true that the gates were *intentionally* closed, therefore one must take this path with caution and respect, but without fear.

      • Roger on October 15, 2019 at 9:18 pm

        Perhaps we shift through countless dimensions with every powerful conscious decision we make in life. Once you become aware that you are travelling through alternate realities by your conscious beliefs and will; and that you are consciously entangled and aware on many planes at once even though they all look like one and the same; it is time to start some experimenting and expanding this potential. Of course you may drift away from some of us lower entangled consciousnesses and start hanging with some of our higher potentials.

        • Alex on October 16, 2019 at 5:41 am

          “Of course you may drift away from some of us lower entangled consciousnesses and start hanging with some of our higher potentials.”
          In my *idealistic* vision, I consider that our purpose on Earth is to wake up and then help the lower potentials to get awaken.
          As long as lower potentials will be trapped in illusions and suffering, the higher potentials won’t be happy either, in the long run.
          However, as *spirit* is free, we can indeed split and separate from the whole, therefore hanging only among higher potentials and get rid of the lower ones. Some of us attempted already this process, but as far as I can tell it doesn’t works well, because this type of separation is also a disconnection form the *pulse* of our own source. Hence the technology, which is supposed to replace and mimic the *frequency* and pattern of the source. Well… I don’t buy it, because it’s not alive and ignores the basic rules of Life 🙂

          • anakephalaiosis on October 16, 2019 at 8:02 am

            Union of branches is trunk, and that is a crowned feature in allegory of tree.

            Scandinavian word “stamme” means trunk, as well as tribe, in union of clans.

            Forefathers are induced principle of trunk, expressed in every twig – knowing itself.


          • Roger on October 16, 2019 at 8:24 pm

            I’ve risen and fallen a few times. There are an infinite copy of all of us on infinite planes. As your consciousness rises and falls you experience those other planes of being. No matter where you are at any given time other yous are just behind and ahead of you;-) above, below and at right angles and coasting in alternate timelines and places. When you move ahead you merge with those ahead and are the same and appear as one. When you fall you merge with the one below. This is because our consciousness is 4th and higher dimensional thanks to entanglement. Now once you realize your will moves you through countless planes of existence that appear as only one present predicament, but in reality is infinite when you become aware of it really being infinite.
            By becoming aware of the infinite instead of the finite illusion you resonate on a new playing field with more options. Growing your awareness and increasing your options is moving up in consciousness where more options can and will manifest. Grow tired of it and don’t exercise those new options brings you back down. Every step forward in life is a step into an alternate you. Few learn the trick of shifting into right and left angles at will but some do it accidently at times thus the Mandela affect. Fewer still learn how to do in great leaps and bounds at will to visit other universes, solar systems, galaxies or alternate time lines. But some rarer few do accidently but usually fall quickly back to where their consciousness truely resonates. But the stories they have to tell!

  21. Kahlypso on October 15, 2019 at 5:36 am

    Did Tesla receive radio signals from Mars? Did Phillip K D. speak with a Black Knight? Did Phobos II get rammed by a space ship? I think that the only real question is, are they aliens or another version of us hidden from history? Are the aliens the gods of old? The last superman film clearly points to angels and demons being superior versions of us. (Just listen to luthors rants and monologues).
    Films have been used since a certain crash in Roswell to “prepare” people for something. People need to understand that the mind control does work and it isnt just what declassified documents show. Its the films and tv. Who would have talked about aliens 150 years ago? Film changed everything.

    • Kahlypso on October 15, 2019 at 5:47 am

      BUT.. if there are Aliens probing us from afar with technomystical intra dimensional void guardians… Id have to say that they are Ming the Merciless’s. Seriously.. the planet has hot snow, earthquakes a gogo, tsunamis of frogs, purple skies, my wife was attacked by a mutant moth bigger than her head a couple of nights ago.. we need Flash Gordon! Or… they’re streaming it back live to their galaxy as pay per view…

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