SECRET SPACE PROGRAM ANYONE? NASA WANTS TO MOVE AND MINE ASTEROIDS
Now this one, folks, is really really interesting... Ms. P.H. kindly send this one to me and I had to do a double take and rub my eyes, because it is roundabout corroboration of a suspicion I entertained in my book Covert Wars and Breakaway Civilizations, and don't be surprised if this gets a mention in the sequel, Covert Wars and the Clash of Civilizations.
So exactly what is it a roundabout corroboration of? (Patience, we'll get around to what we're talking about eventually)
For those of you who haven't read Covert Wars and Breakaway Civilizations, in that book I reviewed at some length the whole story of the trillions of dollars worth of gold-backed US Federal Reserve bearer bonds that keep popping up in Europe. We are reassured by our ever-truthful government that the bonds are fake, and that it's all part of a vast counterfeiting scheme dreamed up by high-scale confidence men and grifters as a part of the "prime bank private bond market" swindle.
However, as I also attempted to argue in that book, one does not counterfeit what does not exist. In other words, there had to be a kernel of an ugly truth squatting like a toad in the middle of the whole bearer bonds scandal, and the ugly truth was that there was indeed a hidden system of finance, established in the aftermath of World War Two, by the oligarchs and technocrats that were erecting the vast American military-industrial-intelligence-finance complex. It was a highly fraudulent system, but like all such schemes, worked for a while.
The sheer scale of this scheme suggested something else to me, namely, that its real hidden purpose was to be the covert funding of a very real though very hidden space program, one involving the development and operational deployment of technologies that would seem like science fiction. The problem, however, was collateralization of such a huge scheme. As a result, I suggested that whatever that program found "out there" would be the collateral for underwriting the whole scheme. It was the extension into outer space of the classic formula for exploration and expansion on Earth: finance a risky venture for a share in the proceeds from whatever was discovered. Scientists long knew from spectrographic analysis and meteors that asteroids would be a rich source of rare minerals.
Now we have these articles as very loose corroborations that my whole idea might be true:
Incoming! Asteroid miners are getting financial boost from NASA cash
NASA Wants $100 Million To Catch An Asteroid
You read that last article correctly: NASA wants to catch, move, and mine an asteroid... and that implies a technology and capacity to do so.
Now if one applies the old adage that "they" don't start talking about things publicly until some time - twenty or more years - that "they've " been doing it covertly, then what we have is a release of information that the technology feasibility studies have already been done.
Add to that a black budget in the trillions of dollars and...
...well, you get the idea.
Now let's crawl even further out on the limb of wild and woolly speculation: in Covert Wars and Breakaway Civilizations I speculated - on the basis of a review of the Japanese plunder of Asia during World War Two - that the amount of gold in existence in the world appeared to be so badly obfuscated that know one really knows how much there really is, and that publicly known or cited figures might be low by at least an order of magnitude. So herewith my wild and woolly speculation: what if some of it is already coming from outer space? And an even wilder and woollier speculation: what if someone else might already regard those asteroids as their territory?
Well, whether they do or don't doesn't really matter, for in the final analysis, the very fact of commercializing space in this manner also implies the need to defend those interests, so you can bet that in addition to asteroid-movers, they've already done the computer-generated blueprints for the dreadnoughts to defend them...
See you on the flip side.
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This ‘astoroid’ business certainly could suggest Farrell is on the right trail with his CWBC book. It’s a tempting supposition. (it’s all smoke in mirrors in some fun house of horror and we’re in the Carnival Stage>)
Black budgets and secret technology —- I like the idea of ‘SIMULATION’ in virtual reality machines. (I imagine hidden governments can create these fantastic machines while we can only experience remenants or crumbs with our miserly small desktop computers!)
So I imagine what Farrell is telling us might already have occurred in some War-Room as a simulation? I remember Baudrillard ‘taunting’ the public with his idea that Operation Desert Storm was an Illusion or the REAL war was fought out with simulation machines or should I call them “MODELS that must be obeyed!!!!!!!!!! (of course tweat them when they go a little BIT off course, of course, ha, ha!)
Now if your like me, deano the dinasour, — then you may say to your self — “There quite a difference between POTENTIAL and an ACTUALITY? Not necessarily when a potential turns out to be an actuality in the future. So the thing to do is try and determine which is which.
Baudrillard confessed his stopped his studies of Simulation because “I had to quit the research into HYPEREALITY because it was driving me crazy!”
I agree for it is one sure positive way leading to some Anal-ist’s Couch, ha, ha!
Now if Farrel could explore in ‘layman’s language” a bit more about TIME then maybe we could make faster progress if progress is an appropiate or adequate word to use for if there is no more concept of Time anymore than WE SUNK! (there would be no difference between Actuality/Potentiality or Real/Imagination?)
Let me add this to Farrell’s CWBC: If the only hinderence to what we can DREAM UP is ‘Might” = the money to do so, then …(hence the secret finnancial network?)
I think I just got too convoluted here? It’s all like the aboriginies of Austraila say — a Dreaming Up.
I need to go back and do more homework —- my own OCCAM’S RAZOR!
It makes sense. We’ve known for some time that mining asteroids is a good idea. From an energy perspective, it is far easier to bring an asteroid close enough to Earth to refine raw materials than to loft them from Earth on chemical rockets.
There is energy aplenty from the Sun, and every point on Earth is an equal distance to send the final product. Tech that requires a hard vacuum (advanced electronics and such) would also be easier up there, as would anything requiring deposition of fine materials (nano-tech?).
Earth orbit is the ideal place for a factory, in this scenario. That would be one of the first things one would do with a viable space technology.
And since when has anyone else having a claim on resources every stopped white Europeans from exploiting them?
Anyone remember from a couple of years ago the images of what appear to be structures on asteroid EROS 433 (among others). I just had a look at them and they look a lot like earth moving equipment!
Link here:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread550794/pg1
just checked the composition of EROS 433.
Estimated to contain 3 trillion dollars plus of GOLD!
This is more gold than on earth.
Lord Blackheath’s “Foundation X” anyone?
I wonder if Dr. F. would entertain linking gold obfuscation with M. Tellinger’s book “Slave Species of God.” As I recall – it’s been a couple of years -, Tellinger focussed on myths of men being created for and existing to mine gold for gods. I’d have to place this at the most extreme end of speculation to even contemplate it. MIB meets LSD, perhaps.
I believe Dr.Joseph once voiced his suspicion on “Slave Species of God” theory of Michael Tellinger, which basically is in the school of thought of Zecharia Sitchin.
” it should be noted that Michael Tellinger(author of Slave Species of God) is an enthusiast for the theories of Zechariah Sitchen, who, of course, maintained that mankind was engineered into existence by the “Anunaki” for the purposes of being a slave to mine gold…”
” I have long regarded the fact that the late Mr. Sitchen maintained offices in Rockefeller Center with a great deal of suspicion, and have, I must be frank, also entertained his sudden popularity and publications has perhaps being deliberately promoted by a financial elite, a kind of disinformation operation, and as any disinformation specialist will acknowledge, to be effective, the operation must contain elements of truth.”
That’s correct Henry, and that remains my suspicion. Unlike a lot of people however, I do not dismiss Sitchen entirely because of that nor for his translation problems.
My opinion exactly.
Sitchin does have a few problems. But he talks about so many different and independent ideas, to debunk one or two of his ideas leaves all the rest untouched.
Sophia,
I don’t think the gold mining operation ever ended. I think we are still mining gold for somebody. The management just took a different tact these last few thousand years. They decided to let their bastard children run the day to day operations.
What is intriguing to me is the Nazi plunder of Europe and the Japanese plunder of Asia during WWII. Was WWII really, deep down, just part of the gold mining operation and not about empire? Or, are we just so poisoned by our former slave masters/creators to have insane lust for gold?
So NASA wants to lasso an asteroid, well they are going to need some help, Yes, I did say “HELP”. Now what’s interesting is the concept, it just identifies where NASA’ priorities lie (yes lie).
If you’ve got a sports model handy, then why try and mine an asteroid, you would only do this if you KNEW what the asteroid has to offer. I’m thinking that the International Space Station is playing a role here and I don’t know what they are doing up there, but it seems to me that the closure you are to the target the better the information is.
NASA as usual is drip feeding the masses, it just amazes me that people still believe that an American defense related department tells the truth.
Why don’t they name these coming “private” enterprises, that are going to start out with the mining of solar seas:
Dutch East India Company, Dutch West India Company, English Easst India Company, Russian American Company, Hudson Bay Company, British South Africa Company?
Perhaps they’re slogan can be; asit is always:
We cannot carry on trade without war,
Nor war without trade.
So this why the president droped a return to the Moon for mining the asteriods instead. I wonder how long they been doing this as you say they are admitiing this now how long have they been doing it. There unfortunatnessely a military angle to this this technology witness what happen in Russia was it natural or diliberate that is the question for us all.
So catching asteroids may become like the frenzy of baseball fans jostling to catch the home run ball hit into the grandstand?
You do always have to wonder about the philosophy of spending insane amounts of money to make money. In this case mining space. Is that just our nature to be so foolish? Or is it that our species is hardwired to be constantly seeking to expand our territory and ownership over the material world? Or, is there something else they are looking for? Possible mithral or some other legendary mineral?
So maybe those Russian bombers that buzzed Guam after the Chelyabinsk meteor really were looking for the Breakaway Civilization’s asteroid hurtling tractor beam?
And where are the Chinese in all of this while the Breakaway Civilization is spending all the world’s stolen wealth to monopolize the solar system? If I know the Chinese, they probably already have secretly snatched all those 480 million copper pins the US put up in the atmosphere in Project West Ford back in the sixties, and are now putting that valuable copper in consumer goods. Likewise, there probably will be a lucrative trade in recycled space junk down the road which I’m certain the Chinese will be right on top of.
“So maybe those Russian bombers that buzzed Guam after the Chelyabinsk meteor really were looking for the Breakaway Civilization’s asteroid hurtling tractor beam?”
Very interesting point, i always thought Guam has to do with those Japanese loots supposedly stashed in the Philipines.
although Russian bombers were circling over Guam on Feb.12, “before” not “after” the Chelyabinsk meteor, i still think this makes an interesting speculation as the event was suspicously close to the Chelyabinsk incident.
As we are talking about NASA, this had me thinking: why didn’t NASA warn the Russians about the incoming meteor, since they can track something coming from as afar as Elenin, the “doomsday comet”, and since the Russians and the Americans are supposedly working together in space?
The other speculation Henry is that “they” tried to catch the asteroid but lost control of it and it crashed and burned.
Thanks for the correction on the dates.
Yep, i suppose they had their “failsafe” failed…
I remember a Stargate SG1 episode called “failsafe”
http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Fail_Safe
The plot was, a “doomsday” asteroid was heading towards earth, SG team discovered that rather than “natural disaster”, apparently the asteroid was sent by the false god, Egyptian god anubis, to wipe out the slave species who once served them.
That covers such ideas as:
-the ancient gods were really slavemaster who have no regard for human lives.
-use “natural disater” as means of destruction, such as asteroid colliding with earth.
there are different ways to interpret the production of such Stargate plot.
It echoes and confirms, not only Zecharia Sitchin’s theory, that ancient Gods were slavemasters who are not so kind towards human-beings, but also Wernher von Braun’s warning of “ETs” after “asteroids” as “threat to earth”.
Or another way to look at it would be, this is just the continuation and expansion of “yahwism” into the modern human consciousness, i.e. to rebel against the “ancient Egypt”.
Om but what would justify the expense and complexity of “mining” an asteroid?
My guess is that IF they really are planning on mining asteroids, they probably have a much cheaper way to do it than using rockets.
So, “Never A Straight Answer” can catch and move an asteroid, can they “move” it faster enough, like “throwing it”?
“noting that the mission would not pose a threat to Earth because the asteroid would have the density of “a dried mudball,” and would come in much more slowly than the slightly larger asteroid that exploded over Chelyabinsk, Russia, in February.”
and they had to pick “Chelyabinsk” to make a point about their mission “not threat to Earth”.
let’s entertain another “wild and woolly speculation”, what if “mining asteroid” is secondary to “catching and moving them”?
Shouldn’t the earth watch out for more “Chelyabinsk” now since someone can catch and move asteroids, but wait, NASA just told us “their mission would not pose a threat to Earth”.
Sorry, i just find it “odd” and “coincidental”, that someone is openly admitting they can “catch and move asteroids” right after the meteor shower around the world earlier this year , highlighted and publicized by “Chelyabinsk”.
That’s sure possible. The it was a meteor in Russia.
Ugh: That was a meteor in Russia. Bit different.
Indeed, which would also indicate to me that there will probably be some form of payback coming the way of the U.S oligarchies, or, to whomever sent that meteor into Russian airspace, because we can be damned sure the Russians will know who sent it.
The question is for mine, what will that payback be and when will it take place? Another earthquake somewhere? Another building collapse somewhere? Some form of nasty cyber attack? Who knows.
Whatever it is, it will naturally come with total plausible deniability – nothing to see here, go back to the television and crack another stubbie whilst we wage our private little war lol!!
if the film footage of Chelyabinsk was not photo-shopped or if the Chelyabinsk incident actually happened (no-one seems to have yet taken into consideration this possibility- we weren’t there- we can only rely on “reports”) could someone please explain to me how asteroids travel horizontally?
Larry
I am no expert, but it seems fairly logical that the possibilities for a meteor range from hitting the planet at 90 degrees, to missing the planet entirely, to .any angle in between (some of which very close to horizontal).
“what if some of it is already coming from outer space? And an even wilder and woollier speculation: what if someone else might already regard those asteroids as their territory?”- wow, Dr. Farrell, that’s definitely food for thought-
Larry