MORE ON THE TIANJIN EXPLOSION: THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES BEGIN TO EMERGE

It was inevitable that the explosion in Tianjin, China, would call forth various conspiracy theories, and indeed, so many people are tracking this story that my email box was awash in various articles about it, to such an extent that I feel compelled to comment about it. I've selected this particular version from Natural News as it seems firstly to be fairly typical of most people's thoughts regarding conspiracy, and because it contains a fairly reasonable timeline of the events:

BOMBSHELL: China and America already at war: Tianjin explosion carried out by Pentagon space weapon in retaliation for Yuan currency devaluation... Military helicopters now patrolling Beijing

Let's start at the timeline, for this contains the basic seed of the arguments that all may not be entirely above-board with the Tianjin explosion:

August 11, 2015: China devalues the Yuan by 1.9%, sending "shockwaves" around the world and setting off a "devastating" impact to the U.S. economy.

August 12, 2015: Tianjin struck by Pentagon's secret "Rod of God" weapon, a space-based top-secret kinetic weapon that can be dropped from high orbit to strike almost any land-based target. The weapon instantly destroys six city blocks on the edge of the city of Tianjin, sending a message to China that's eerily similar to the message sent by the United States in the dropping of the world's first atomic weapons on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in World War II. (Yes, the USA is willing to drop weapons of mass destruction on civilian populations. It has already done it twice!)

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August 16, 2015: Obama issues stern warning "...about the presence of Chinese government agents operating secretly in the United States," reports The New York Times. "And it comes at a time of growing tension between Washington and Beijing on a number of issues: from the computer theft of millions of government personnel files that American officials suspect was directed by China, to China's crackdown on civil liberties, to the devaluation of its currency."
Now, while I continue to have major doubts that this was anything more than an accidental explosion, the timeline, plus President Obama's warning, recalls the similar events of Fukushima almost to a "t": first a new Japanese government came to power. That government clearly indicated it wanted to improve relations with China, and also requested the USA close down and remove its Okinawa base. Then-US Secretary of Defense Robert Gates then issued a warning to Japan that was scarecly more than a disguised threat. Then came the earthquake, the tsunami, and the Fukushima disaster, ongoing to this day. And, for those not aware of it, former Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, Catherine Austin Fitts, has made similar observations about the Indonesian tsunami: first there were inexplicable sell-offs of Indonesian sovereign securities on the markets, followed a week later by a tsunami. One could go on and on (like those earthquakes that hit the Soviet Union (Georgia, home to then Soviet Foreign Minister Eduard Shervednadze) during the events running up to the German reunification), but I suspect one gets the basic idea: "accidents" in the context major economic and geopolitical events, such as the Chinese yuan devaluation, should be looked at carefully.
So was this a US strike using a covert space-based kinetic weapon, the so-called "rod of God"? Perhaps, but I very much doubt it, since no one, as far as I am aware, reported seeing any trails that such a weapon would probably leave in the atmosphere, nor, to my knowledge, did anyone report hearing anything strange or mysterious prior to the explosion, such as one would most likely hear with such a weapon. As one can see from the photos on the Natural News article, there does appear to be a substantial crater at the place of the explosion, which appears to have been subsurface, and this, they argue, is the reason one does not see the typical signatures of an air-burst nuclear weapon. But again, if a "rod of God" weapon, it seems that someone, somewhere, would have seen and/or heard an atmospheric signature of such a weapon. Again, to my knowledge, these are absent.
So, we come to my high octane speculation of the day, which is revealed by this statement in the article:
"This is all fully aligned with the government policies set in motion by President Obama in 2011. "Washington will to [sic] consider using conventional weaponry in response to a cyber-attack on the United States, according a new US strategy," reported The Telegraph:

The White House's strategy statement on cybersecurity said the United States "will respond to hostile acts in cyberspace as we would to any other threat to our country".

"We reserve the right to use all necessary means – diplomatic, informational, military, and economic – as appropriate and consistent with applicable international law, in order to defend our nation, our allies, our partners and our interests," the May 16 document said.

And then earlier, we have this:

Local police raids have already begun at the locations of bloggers and independent journalists who have attempted to report true stories on what really happened at Tianjin. The Chinese government is engaged in a total cover-up.

Natural News has learned that the Chinese government is now setting up roadside checkpoints near and around both Tianjin and Beijing. Additional security measures now in place to control the movement of people include:

• All hotels are reporting details of visitors to the government, including passport numbers, nationalities, names and phone calls made from the rooms.

• Tourists who don't stay in hotels are now required to register with local police or risk arrest. The Chinese government has mandated that it must know the location of every person at all times.

Assuming that the reportage here is accurate, this indicates that China's government suspects something very different than "rod of God" scenarios. Indeed, such measures are more typical of a government that, for whatever reason, has ascertained that it has been the victim of a covert operation, conducted by human, on-the-ground agents within its territory, than it suspects exotic or other types of weaponry, which would clearly point the finger at the USA and/or its allies. It's that covert operations possibility that appears to have the Chinese government reacting and, one may presumel, investigating thoroughly and quietly behind the scenes. And if such a large operation could be pulled off on Chinese soil, then that government has reason to be concerned, for the network could be almost anywhere.
If this scenario is true, what really remains to be seen is what the Chinese will publish, should they bring their investigations to a successful conclusion, and if they will identify who they think the culprits are. In any case, the only Chinese proverb - "may you live in interesting times" - appears to have returned to its homeland.
See you on the flip side...

23 thoughts on “MORE ON THE TIANJIN EXPLOSION: THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES BEGIN TO EMERGE”

  1. My take on the Tianjin explosion goes back to the ‘evidence’: the photos of the huge crater, now filled with water. It is a deep crater, not just a shallow-sided depression. That indicates a subsurface explosion, of whatever nature. A surface explosion will mainly follow the lines of least resistance, meaning up and to the sides. Very little of the explosive energy will go into the soil. That is why the Dambusters of WWII had to sink their bombs to the front-base of the dams; tests showed that surface explosions did little to dam-equivalents. All the reported chemicals could not have ‘dug’ a steep-sided crater of this depth (unless some were pre-positioned underground). Tactical nuke? Radiation signatures will tell.

    When I looked at the circumferential ‘fracture’ line partway around the crater, I got an immediate picture of Meteor Crater in Arizona. By that, I mean that the MC blast was so powerful that it took the edge layers and literally flipped them over. When you walk around the lip of MC, you are actually walking on material that gets younger as you go down, for a certain vertical distance.

    My take on the origin of the circumferential ‘fracture’ line is like with MC. The subsurface explosion caused the edge layers to begin to flip over. However, it was not powerful enough to do more than lift that zone slightly, and then the circumferential ‘slab’ resettled. The circumferential ‘fracture’ line is where the edge of the uplifting ‘slab’ compressed the soil and then broke-open with the subsidence.

    It is interesting that it is not a fully-circumferential ‘fracture’ line. Either the ground structure is not the same across the region, or the explosion was more ‘directed’ than uniform.

    (I found it intriguing to see the ‘Rod from God’ hypothesis enter the discussion. I first saw this concept in the 1986 SF book “Footfall” by Larry Niven & Jerry Pournelle. Not-too-far-advanced aliens were using them en-mass to enforce a kind of ‘close air support’ from space on humanity. The concept really grabbed my attention at the time.)

    The ‘Rod from God’ scenario needs more evidence-base to be relevant at Tianjin, so far. A real meteor coming directly-in at 30,000 mph has only a second or two to be decelerated by the atmosphere. It either makes it or explodes in the air, as a function of mass and composition. It has fantastic kinetic energy, due to kinetic energy being a function of velocity-squared. A ‘Rod from God’ would probably only be roughly 2,000 mph by the time it decelerated from orbital velocity (unless it was rocket-assisted). Because of the velocity-squared effect, it would have much less explosive power. It would still be Mach 3-5, which would mean that it’s shockwave or ‘sonic boom’ would arrive about the time of the impact ‘boom’. They might be conflated together, and so not ‘heard’. Time will tell…

    1. Goshawks, Excellent!! This is the conversation that needs to be had!!

      You said the chemicals present could not have dug a hole like that. What are you estimating as the circumference of the crater? Estimates vary from 100 ft. Cnn to over 400ft. Comparison of site before and after explosion http://i.imgur.com/BDHsd5Z.jpg Closer image of crater
      http://i.imgur.com/hnVy3LO.jpg
      Using the estimates the the containers are 20 ft containers based on people that worked in shipping that would eliminate estimates well above 200 ft . Estimates are about a football field wide so about 160 feet. So I guess the important thing if there was some king of underground explosive is depth and you are suggesting that it’s deep. I’ve only seen one estimate that it was 5 feet deep. Do you have an estimate and how are you arriving at it?

      Basic paper on dynamics of underground explosions for those that want to follow along http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Library/Effects/UndergroundEffects.html

      You say the chemicals present were not sufficient to cause a crater of that depth? This is contrary to the discussions I’ve read by chemists. What chemicals are you basing your conclusion on? There are reports that they were also storing calcium carbide, which releases very explosive acetylene gas if it comes in contact with water. Additionally they supposedly had potassium nitrate and ammonium nitrate on site as well – nitrates are also pretty explosive in large quantities like that, and are usually the cause of explosions at fertilizer plants. Generally just a huge recipie for disaster. am I incorrect in my statements?

      A demonstration of the explosive potential of even a small amount of acetylene mixed with the right amount of oxygen. Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada. https://youtu.be/X1LwYJ8pDhc

      1. More complete list of chemicals purported being stored by the facility. Compressed and liquefied gases (argon, compressed natural gas); flammable liquid (methyl ethyl ketone, ethyl acetate); flammable materials(sulfur, nitrocellulose, calcium carbide, calcium alloy); oxidizers and organic peroxides (potassium nitrate, sodium nitrate, etc.); toxic chemicals (sodium cyanide, toluene diisocyanate)

  2. First an explosion in China, and now a US base in Japan explosion. Well I just took off my tin foil hat. As Joseph has said on many occasions, two can play the “game”. It appears that the US may have some fancy toys flying around the planet, but something tells me some “other folks” may have similar “toys”. This is madness on a grand scale, and if those Washington wombats keep this up we are all TOAST!!!
    Somebody has to grab these neocons and put an end to it, the only people who can stop this carnage is the US military itself. So bring on the coup d’tate and put the criminals in jail, all of them.

  3. redclay claims that we should ignore the massive crater (now crater lake) because he claims that other massive chemical explosions, in Jinlin and Texas City, have produced them.

    I thought this was a remarkable claim, so I went a googlin’ and nary a crater did I find in the many photos of either site. So redclay, please do post links to some photos of comparable 15-square-block craters made by chemical explosions, because I’d love to see some! Thanks!

    Now, physics says you can’t make a crater like that without some massive overpressure, and chemicals — even a whole warehouse full of them, or ten contiguous warehouses full of them — can simply never create the necessary overpressure to gouge out such an absoultely massive crater. Do your maths.

    This is the same sort of argument that a Rental truck filled with a fertilizer bomb could destroy OKC and blast off one half of a concrete frmed building (rolls eyes), or that another similar bomb left another massive crater at Khobar Towers. These fairy tales rely on your ignorance and unwillingness to educate yourself about ballistics. Chemicals in drums or Hertz rental trucks simply can’t create the necessary overpressure to gouge out massive craters. Period.

    Folks, we are talking heavy ordinance of some sort to make that hole. So forget about those who would like you to believe that “There’s nothing to see here folks, just move along…” because there is one heck of something that went bang in Tianjin.

  4. What has this World come to that we would put I lives in the hands of the Mafia. Because who is the real government that runs the USA one with the power but not the responsibility of a legitimate one. The USA shows all the signs of a gangster state trying to protect it’s turf than a real nation state. Oceania Uber Allis.

  5. Mess with the private monopoly of money and your Fukushima’d.
    Ask Lincoln. Ask JFK. Ask Iraq. Ask Libya. The list is replete with Bankster vengeance.
    Looks like the Strategy of Tension is being played out across the world; where when countries don’t fall to their knees like Greece. they’re subject to explosive covert warfare.

  6. “Twice”? At least that “we” know about. And even that had to be twisted into the frame to be “justified” as fit to print[NYT].

    Agent secretly spyingin the U.S.? That’s news? It would be news if they were’t

  7. 1.) The logistics area didn’t just explode. A 911 type call came in that there was a fire at the logistics center at around 10:50pm. Recordings exist. If these recordings are falsified, then certainly non-government officials are aware but no disagreement of these facts have been published on chinese conspiracy websites. Local fire squads were busy putting out a chemical fire by using water. If the reports are correct, and they were putting water on sodium cyandie, than it turned into hydrogen cyanide which is toxic and explosive and has been used as a chemical weapon. Sodium cyanides’ major use is in gold and silver mining.

    Reports are that nobody told the fireman not to use water. So you can look at this information several ways. US military set the fire as decoy/distraction and then 40 minutes later pushed the button on their secret weapons. Or just complete mismanagement and corruption by Chinese officials and executives and fire department wasn’t adequately trained to handle such a fire.

    In the United States when a fire department arrives at a chemical logistics center to put out a fire, the first thing they do is refer to material safety data sheets. Accuracy of what was present, and record keeping is the issue among Chinese civilians and the reason for all the deletion of posts on Chinese Conspiracy sites.
    The other chemicals said to be presdent calcium carbide, potassium nitrate, and sodium nitrate. All stable without fire. Calcium carbide if the containers failed due to heat and fire is highly exposive gas. Essentially, you don’t need to use a secret weapon to create a huge disaster with the presence of all these chemicals, to make a crater etc…

    2.) Tianjin Municipality is huge. American’s have nothing to compare it to as we don’t have a city with 15 million people. The Binhai area is not where the majority of the population lives so it’s not a good civilian target. That’s the accusation If the Empire State building represents a civilian and ideal business target. The explosion took place somewhere between Greenwhich and Stamford CT.

    3.) Craters, and more craters. The existence of craters doesn’t imply any kind of nuclear or special weaponary. 21 tonnes of dynamite is sufficient. If you take the time to research other chemical explosions, Jinlin 2005 and Texas 1947 (looked like Hiroshima afterwards), you’ll find craters, as big. Showing pictures of craters from space doesn’t mean anything.

    4.) in the 2005 Jinlin explosion, there were also casualties and injuries. 10 thousand civilians were evacuated. 100 tons of benzene went into the river. As Ezra Levant writes in his book “Ethical Oil” ” The first response by PetroChina, and their government masters, was the one one favoured by dictatorships that are thin skinned when it comes to criticism: they deny there’s a problem.” That was the official Soviet line in 1986 when the Chernobyl nuclear reactor caught fire, and it’s been communist China’s default reponse to other public safety crises, such as Sars and other epidemics.
    “That’s a pretty typical arc for any story involving corporate or government responsibility in a dictatorship. Step one is to simply stay silent for as long as possible. When that no longer works, the next step is to lie. Step four is to announce the execution of a scapegoat…”
    That victim was Wang Wei, the vice mayor of Jilin City was in charge of environmental protection. 3 weeks after the explosion he was found dead at his home.

    So far this story from the China side is textbook, denial. The only evidence of an US attack is that synchronicity is being taken as causality.

    An interview with a chemist in China who lived near the logistic center says she was unaware of the existsence of all these chemicals so close to civilians and that she would have never lived there if she was aware. This to me is the central issue. The story of a secret weapons seems like a good decoy taking away attention from illegal government contracts and guilty executives.

    5.) I believe Veterans Today was one of the first news outlets to run the consspiracy story followed by Natural News and then Dave Hodges. Review this video by CorbettReport. How to spot disinfo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOQvMY0JlwA Veterans Today senior editor acknowledges that 40% of the information in Veterans Today is totally made up.

    6.) No travel or security warnings to citizens on US embassy website except the recognition that fake information has been reported in the social media that attributes the information to the US embassay. Check with local officials. No, hotel websites reporting anything different. Will check with locals about the validity of wide spread check points and any sort of different procedure for American’s coming into the country. These things can be checked and no need to await China goverment press releases to know whether Natural News (check out it’s track record) is dillegently reporting the truth. yes, Binhai area is blocked off to civilians.
    7.) conspiracy websites have been monitored and posts deleted but show up other places. All point to Chinese government coverup. Couldn’t find one person entertaining the idea of a WWW3 style attack by the USA.

    We spend so much time digging into rabbit holes. Exposing the lies of the MSM, government officials, most in the alternative community have failed to expose the disinformation from our own community. The puppet masters know, you will automatically dismiss MSM but you will take alternative sites word without any sources or corroboration. It’s time we hold these sites accountable simply by acknowledging their track record.

    1. This brings to mind the Deepwater Horizon episode. Had BP launched some bit of skulduggery aimed at placing the blame for their own greed and recklessness on the terrorist actions of an NGO or activist organization like Greenpeace, for example, the public would have quickly seen through it, the courts would have crucified them, and biopics on prominent environmental activists and groups would have been run continuously on all the major cable news stations for months afterward. As it was, the public was quite ready (justifiably so) to accept that corporate negligence was to blame. It is instructive to ponder this and realize the power that public (manufactured) opinion has to shape reality.

      1. Sound thinking!!

        Plausible deniability!! The named coined by the CIA in the 60’s.

        Unrelated I’d also note that Natural News is published in three languages, English, Chinese, and Japanese.

        The Chinese language version doesn’t seem to have one mention of Tianjin. They have a website and a facebook. Certainly, China doesn’t censor facebook? The author is American and located in Taiwan after relocation from Ecuador. An interesting history to research.

  8. While it seems plausible, at first, the “Rods from God” would be too costly and too ineffective to deploy in reality.

    http://www.armaghplanet.com/blog/rods-from-god-a-terrifying-space-weapon.html

    As stated above, there are much cheaper and more covert means of accomplishing the same goal and the remaining question is who would do this. While the first nation everyone would look to for this type of action is the US, one might consider the global banksters/ corporations, breakaway group or Nazi international as well. Covert operations to foment global unrest and warfare would be a game each of these parties would utilize in order to further their goals. It makes sense to keep the nations of the world suspecting each other for covert operations of all kinds while you carry out your agenda in secret.
    What makes this even more interesting is the almost total silence concerning these groups by everyone except a few “conspiracy theorists”.
    The sequel to Agenda 21 is coming soon and the “kings of the earth” are submitting their nations sovereignty to a world governing body bringing the endgame closer to reality for that New World Odor. We are witnessing the accelerating culmination of an extremely long term plan taking place before our very eyes.
    We do, indeed, live in interesting times…

  9. There has hardly been time to analyze the first explosion and now another one has occurred. One in a port city and other at a site also located near the coast. Well, it COULD, perhaps, be faulty wiring and poor safety standards, possibly due to corruption and bribery; the country has a sad history of serious industrial accidents. And there is still that old Pavlovian reflex to impose censorship on anything that might reflect badly on the country, until the official explanation comes out.
    But at this stage, even an explanation blaming the incidents on corrupt officials would leave some questions to be answered…

  10. I have no special knowledge of this event. However, I did read an article that talked about how the Chinese gov’t had arrested two top executives of some company that was supposedly at fault for the explosion: why would they do that if the were expecting covert ops? I guess they could suspect those execs of collaborating with saboteurs, who knows.

    “. . . such as one would most likely hear with such a weapon.” I do not know anything about this “rod of god” weapon. But some ballistic weapons, such as the V2, were supersonic, so people could not hear them coming: the first sound anyone heard, as far as I know, was the impact/explosion. It seems possible that this “rod of god” weapon could also be supersonic (just guessing).

  11. It seems like there would be better ways to punish China that wouldn’t be such overt acts of war and risk WWIII. If I were Obama, the first thing I would do is initiate a porn embargo on China. This would agitate to no end the millions of partnerless, sex starved Chinese men and boys who rely on western pornography in order to placate their repressed sexual urges. The result for China and its neighbors could be catastrophic as millions of marauding, predatory Chinese men may be forced outside their homes in the evening in search of mates. While this could be good for the cologne, fashion and hair products industry, it could be disastrous for social cohesion and could lead to dangerous acts of bravado like panty raids and dueling. Moreover, the danger to China’s neighbors could be significant as swaggering, lustful Chinese men may take to storming nearby countries for their women. In effect, Chinese men could easily become the new Vikings. (Beware Australians of Chinese dragon boats coming ashore in the cover of night to steal your beautiful women).

    1. Of course, a porn embargo would have to come with huge concessions to Israel who would suffer tremendous financial loss if these sanctions were put in place and therefore would demand compensation from the US such as a battleships, a fleet of fighter jets, a giant force field, and billions in cash to be dispersed to the managers of the foreign slave workers who are the backbone of Israel’s gigantic porn industry. Quite a few Hollywood oligarchs would also have to be placated with cash and mercantilist concessions– such as military invasions of those prudish countries who are putting up resistance to the attempted inundation of Hollywood porn in their countries.

      1. The question would then have to be asked: would Putin feel compelled to violate his high moral standards and break the porn embargo on China by sending in some emergency Russian porn?

        1. Actually the real question one might ask: would Putin ever covertly instigate a war on the Korean Peninsula? How would Americans feel being enmeshed in this bloodbath? This could certainly be the straw that broke the camel’s back as far as American public opinion and involvement in foreign wars goes. Is Putin capable of such realpolitik?

          1. Other actors who might be interested in and significantly immoral enough to ignite the Korean powder keg and entangling the US in a bloody and expensive conflict:

            –China
            –Great Britain
            –Germany
            –Japan and subsidiaries
            –Nazi International
            –Wars Are Us (the unmentionable nation who views all wars as a business opportunity)
            –Raytheon, General Dynamics, General Electric and a host of other US defense contractors
            –the media moguls who could bank on Americans being glued to their tv, even through the advertisements, and who have been dying to get a Kim Jong Un reality show for quite some time.
            –Then of course there are all those other beleaguered victims of the United States like Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, all of Central and South America, most of Africa and Asia, etc etc

            While the North Koreans would be a long shot to win a war against the US, they could (or someone else could) destroy all US troops stationed in Korea in the initial stages of the war. They (or someone else) could also launch attacks on the US mainland with chemical and biological weapons or even possibly a nuke they bought from Wars Are Us. Then you can’t underestimate their singular craziness– attacking DC itself with commandos delivered by submarines. Considering how poorly defended DC was on 9/11… well, anything is possible. Imagine that scene as highly skilled North Korean special forces crash the perennial ball in the nation’s capitol in the dead of night?

            While the US could and would carpet bomb North Koreans on the surface into oblivion, there then would be the grim task of dislodging North Korean soldiers from their stalwart underground bunkers, the ones they have been constructing for over 60 years and counting. Probably a job for the South Koreans, but if they decline in favor of starving them out, the North Koreans will still be able to carry out some semblance of a guerrilla war and also continue producing armaments, including high technology weapons that could continue to inflict damage on their imperialist enemies. Who knows, maybe cornered and in the throws of total war and faced with total destruction, the North Koreans, burrowed deep inside one of their sacred mountains, could surprisingly produce a war decisive weapon or worse– a doomsday weapon.

            Prediction: war with North Korea would be highly unfavorable for the American Empire. Lets hope all the nations who hate us aren’t thinking the same thing.

          2. Frankie, would you be related to War Tard? I mean this in a most salutatory way.

            I had no worries about there ever being a North/South Korean War (Part II). Even with the crazies. However, I HAVE been wondering on an appropriate Russian response to the Western owned-establishment’s continual pricking and pushing. You may have put your finger on a disturbing scenario. To be truly ‘worthwhile’ to Putin, though, it would have to be something that directly hurt the banksters…

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