NEWS AND VIEWS FROM THE NEFARIUM JAN 21 2016

That Iran hostage crisis thing... what was it all about? Well, Iran, courtesy of an article in Novorossiya, is saying it was about an ISIS commander on board one of the US Navy's riverboats, and the Saudis(of course) are saying if Iran gets a bomb, we want one too...

Stocks Slump After Saudis Threaten Nukes Against "Nefarious" Iran

http://novorossia.today/leaked-report-iran-says-top-isis-commander-was-aboard-captured-u-s-navy-boats/

15 thoughts on “NEWS AND VIEWS FROM THE NEFARIUM JAN 21 2016”

  1. noteworthy that each disinfo idea gets us hopping to wilder possibilities that we previously had not considered. until eventually we start considering progressively more rather than less likely scenarios. Wonder if Big brother gets that even schooling an analytical mind wrongly gives enough to chew on and probably less eventually sort things out.

    similar to how our moms figured out what we were trying to keep from them faster for us trying to fast talk our way out of they’re having a clue. wonder if this is how moms felt as they listened to sons and waited for them to grow some nuts and raise some courage and eventually tell more of the truth on the road to becoming mensch.

    so what we do know here is that the lying msm and the US gubmint told us that Iran’s Navy completely embarrassed the US Navy and so powerfully and well that neither side felt compelled to discuss or admit casualties? reminds one of that drone Iran took over midflight and landed whole a few years back. then they paraded it around and reverse engineered it. wonder how all of these happened.

    is this more intranational warfare within intel – admin – military leadership? remember when scocroft screwed carter in that failed helicopter raid?

  2. EVERMORE has a compelling take on this incident, which quite obviously as reported is pure MSM lies. Insultingly so, if you are a sentient being, I might add.

    These stealth PT boats were crafted exactly for special ops in mind — things like inserting those few lucky Navy SEALs who managed to survive the second death of OBL — and indeed that Iran captured both craft, in flagrante, without a single shot being fired shows that the US mission (whatever it was, but it definitely was a US mission) was compromised from the get-go, doubtless thanks to the latest Russian tech recently plopped down nearby to combat “ISIS.”

    As for “Sorcha Faal,” someone once posted that the moniker for this patent disinfo mill is disturbingly close to “Sucha Fool.” Well, there you have it.

  3. If Yawists ever come to blows with each other I am certain the two other Yawist fronts will act just as medieval like the one in full swing now.

  4. The big question for me is HOW did the Iranians somehow CAPTURE not 1 but 2 hi-speed, US “Riverine” ships, bristling with weapons and filled with hi-tech sonar, GPS etc etc equipment, carrying 10 seaman and supported by other US vessels – WITHOUT an exchange of gunfire???
    How did US Naval command loose contact?
    How were they so easily captured?

    I would suspect rather than a top level ISIS commander onboard that this was a convert McCain/Clinton Neocon /Israeli plot (NOT a White House/Obama/Kerry sanctioned op) to create a another false flag Gulf of Tonkin event on the eve of the lifting of Iranian sanctions.

    As this article points out, perhaps the Iranians by themselves (or via Russian assistance) have a system that can take down the US “Aegis” system such as the Donald Cook episode in the Black Sea…
    http://thesaker.is/nuland-meets-surkov-to-warn-about-imminent-nato-attack-by-scott/

    This for me makes far more sense than the ISIS commander theory put out by the Iranians.

    1. I agree… I’m not entirely satisfied with either the Russian or Iranian versions of the story, but they DO raise the questions of SOME sort of covert op, either interrupted, or, as you suggest, something more subtle. THis may be a story to watch as more unfolds.

  5. The NY Times is the new global Pravda.

    An old Russian joke used to be between a Texan and Russian about hourly changes.
    The Texan weather, versus Russian history.
    Now, U.S. history is changing daily; a just-in-time history commodity.

  6. Except for the misery and death this could be material for a “Monty Python” skit. A very dark comedy just wonder what a “Black Adder” season would be like how would the craziness be presented.

  7. The question that popped into my mind while listening to Dr Farrell is;

    What if it was an “interrupted covert operation” that had little, oh lets say, ~help~ from certain “dissatisfied” components of the military?

    And I will leave that crazy speculation as it stands.

  8. I tend to come down in the ‘interrupted covert operation’ camp. Other explanations like engine failure, GPS spoofing, etc., seem ‘forced’.

    On the other hand, the capture of a terrorist leader on one of the boats also seems far-fetched. If real, that person ‘had’ to have seen Iranian boats approaching. Torture, at best, awaited. Not to mention dishonor. Poison pill time, or strap-on weights and jump. Or, if the Marines had them, dump the guy overboard with scuba tanks before the boats got close-enough to notice. No-way would he be on-board when the boats arrived.

    Oh, and I suspect the Marines got-released immediately because of the upcoming Presidential elections. No way would the Iranians want to hold them and precipitate a Republican landslide…

  9. So, as long as we are quoting “Sorcha,” their NEXT report is about “Russia being shocked” as Turkey downs two American helicopters, killing 12 airmen, in Turk/Kurdish airspace. Russia offered assistance to Americans, who told them “thanks, but we’ve got this.” I haven’t heard anything about this in the news, but it is coincident with ANOTHER two helicopters allegedly going down in Hawaii in which the search was called off rather quickly, it seems.

    Which makes MY very enquiring mind ask, “Did the ‘copters REALLY go down in Turkey, but reported as being in Hawaii,” so as to obscure that our “good ally” really just shot down our troops?

    Enquiring minds want to KNOW!

    http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1986.htm

  10. The Novorussia report is a paraphrase of article first put out by Sorcha Faal (www.whatdoesitmean.com), long rumored to be, at least, CIA disinfo site and (if I am recalling correctly) Ben Fulford says is Office of Naval Intelligence. That is why I didn’t forward it to you.

    I must say, it “rang true to me,” too. Say what you will about Sorcha…they get a LOT of things right, and I have gotten a LOT of backstory off this website.

    http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1984.htm

    S ^i^

      1. [snip] “As an added “bonus/incentive” for Iran keeping “confidential/secret” the US Navy’s transporting of this Islamic State terror leader, this report further notes, President Barack Obama, also, lifted the American’s decades-old ban on selling aircraft and repair parts to Iran’s aviation on Friday (15 January) a full day ahead of the United Nations lifting of sanctions under the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA)—and which Iran put into immediate effect by ordering billions-of-dollars worth of European Union made Airbus aircraft instead of US made ones.”

      2. Good catch Ramura. Sorcha Faal has been called the Internet Hoax Queen. Her articles have a distinct ‘feel’ … something not quite right about them, always a certain acknowledged lack of credibility … a few verifiable facts mixed with purposeful dis-/mis-info. As usual, her articles are re-published in The European Union Times (eutimes dot net) where they are picked up by other sites and circulated, without caveat or source noted. … But Joseph did issue a caveat and we’ll see if his high octane speculation is right on about discovery of US covert ops and possible political blackmail.

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