THE DREAMS OF THE RUSSIAN COSMISTS MAY JUST HAVE COME TRUE
Ok... I'll bet you're asking yourself, "What the heck is Russian Cosmism?" It's not an easy question to answer, particularly for a Western audience unfamiliar with Russian philosophy, or for that matter, the huge role of Eastern Orthodoxy in Russian culture. Needless to say, any attempt to summarize an entire philosophical school of movement in a few sentences in a paragraph is doomed to failure. With that caveat in mind, here goes:
Cosmism is a school of thought that developed from - and in some cases, in opposition to - the thought of the Russian philosopher Nikolai Fyodorovich Fyodorov (1829-1903), a man of vast intellect, reading, and influence within Russian letters and thought. Briefly put (all too briefly!), for Fyodorov the Orthodox understanding of the Resurrection, not just of Christ, but eventually, of humanity, was not just a doctrine; it was an agenda to be achieved and applied by the advance of science. It was a task that mankind had to fulfill as a co-worker with God. In this respect, Fyodorov actually believed, and maintained, that as science advanced, one would have to literally collect the dust of all of one's ancestors that was in the Earth, and use it to "reconstruct" or resurrect them. Fyodorov also envisioned this "ancestral dust collecting and resurrection" project coupled with the human colonization - the humanization - of the entire universe. To make it over in man's image was to make it over in God's image. One may, in view of this all too brief summary of Cosmist thought, think of "Cosmism" as a kind of Russian transhumanism without the rejection of religion (in some cases, though there were, subsequently, "secular" cosmists). Think of Fyodorov's "resurrection" and "ancestral dust collection" project as a kind of Jurassic Park, but for people, not dinosaurs.
Well, being somewhat familiar with the movements and currents of Russian philosophy, one can imagine my reaction when Mr. S.D. shared the following article with me; my jaw was on the floor, and the first thing I thought of was... well, Nikolai Fryodorovich Fyodorov, who doubtless would have enthused over the article:
How a bit of cave dirt just changed archaeology
Now, in case you don't have the time to read the whole story, here's the crux of it:
It's no wonder then that a Harvard geneticist refers to a new technique of recovering human DNA without bones, described in a study published in Science Thursday, as a "real revolution in technology," per the New York Times.
German researchers took dirt samples at seven cave sites in Europe and Asia where Neanderthals or Denisovans once lived. Four returned Neanderthal DNA, and one of the four sites contained Denisovan DNA, per a release, which notes many of the sediment samples were taken from archaeological layers or sites that hadn't previously yielded bones.
"It's a bit like discovering that you can extract gold dust from the air," as one geneticist puts it. Researchers had previously taken animal DNA from sediment, but this study describes the first successful effort involving human DNA.
It involved collecting samples at sites where human bones or tools had been found and using molecules that recognize mammalian mitochondrial DNA to "fish out" the material, which sticks to minerals in sediment. (Emphasis added)
Let that sink in for a moment: human DNA - thousands of years old - is recoverable from dirt.
Now let's speculate wildly here: combine this new capability, with that of cloning, the new techniques of "artificial wombs", and voila! Your test-tube baby might actually be - as Fyodorov speculated over a century ago - a long-lost relative or ancestor, at least, physically speaking. Of course, some readers will spot the philosophical problem: is a clone necessarily the same person? Well, not necessarily: identical twins have essentially the same DNA, but can be very different personalities and persons.
Nonetheless, the major outlines of Fyodorov's "ancestral dust collection" and "resurrection" project are beginning to fall into place. And with it, so are the major outlines of novelist Ira Levin's Boys from Brazil...
... I don't know about you, but I'd rather not live in a world of Ivan the Terribles, Napoleon Bonapartes, Pol Pots, Josef Stalins or Mao Tse-Dungs. The current bumper crop of malcontents is bad enough.
See you on the flip side...
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“Of course, some readers will spot the philosophical problem: is a clone necessarily the same person?”
A possible answer to this philosophical problem…
There is a book by two authors named Ostrander and Schroeder, on the subject of Russian Parapsychology research, during the Soviet era. There is a chapter the book on the subject of “Artificial Reincarnation.”
By utilizing hypnosis techniques it was possible to take someone with, say, no musical abilities whatsoever, and artificially reincarnate the “essence” or “soul” (or whatever you call it) of a musical genius into the subject. The subject would then acquire the abilities and even some of the memories, characteristics, mannerisms, etc. of the musical genius.
So if you could not only dig and separate the DNA of your ancestor, and then clone a new ancestor, you could still say that this is not really your ancestor, but it’s just a clone.
But let’s say that you clone your ancestor, and then artificially reincarnate your ancestor soul/essence into the new body of your ancestor, would this actually be your ancestor?
Especially if your new ancestor actually had the memories (and the whole 9 yards) of the old ancestor.
would there be anything lacking where we could not say that the new ancestor is in every way, the old ancestor raised from the dead?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlXjUmPL1qQ
Yes everything seems possible now. It’s not a dream anymore, but a massive nightmare.
MtDNA – now that’s a thought! Might it be why we’ve been forced to adopt a patriarchal society rather than matriarchal one? The knowledge within MtDNA must be astounding. Women all over the world should hear this and read between the lines.
If we knew Enlil’s MtDNA we would know his mother, and her mother, and her mother’s mother etc. Come to think of it, we’d all know our one first mother!
So what does it all mean relative to the Gospels, Resurrection and dare I say Love?
We are all stardust. Yet, there is much more to the mix than just the mix. In the recipe there are countless factors. You get the classic nature vs nurture. You get the occult alchemy that adds a witches cauldron of unspeakables into the brew. Then you get that unqualifiable magic stuff of life itself, the living spirit. That which cannot be bottled. But, that won’t stop the Haneys of the world, nor the Strangeloves from trying to sell us on their bottled magic.
Much Ado About Nothing.
[and I do mean nothing in the one sense of quantum fluctuation; and in the other sense that the spirit is even beyond the reach of that nothingness. For there exists that which cannot be quantified, nor prescripted in or out, nor captured. The free spirit remains without bounds.
Yes, there is a lot of Cosmic Dust – not only “out there” but EVERYWHERE.
Amen
When I first read JPF’s article, I immediately thought of another article where scientists had successfully extracted meteor dust from (literal) gutters. Combine this article with JPF’s and – Voilà! – all the alien DNA strands in the local universe become available. (In practical terms, one would probably ‘swab’ the outside of the ISS. Reentry heating would probably damage delicate DNA beyond repair. Kind of gives a different slant to those reports of bacteria growing on the outside of the ISS, doesn’t it?)
On the spiritual/religious side, it is interesting to see folks trying to create a ‘universe’ where there is no real spirituality. All the ‘top down’ stuff doesn’t really exist, so we’re told. Only ‘bottom up’. Ken Wilber wrote of the fallacy of trying to collapse what are essentially spiritual ‘planes’ into physical planes. Seems to apply here…
Well as VB pointed out it would hardly be possible to reproduce the solar/planetary configuration at birth of any being, human or otherwise. Any use that present-day science makes of these biological crystals (DNA) should be considered nefarious unless proved otherwise. However, this MAY be a dig at all those hoarders/hiders of ancient bones, from religious cults to “anthopologists”, telling them that the unavailability of osseous tissue does not represent a serious obstacle to these allegedly wonderful scientific advancements…
The light side of this issue is that this offers a opportunity of ethnic groups targeted for extermination to resurrect themselves. Or to be resurrected by concerned and sympathetic parties. And this technology could be used in space colonization as well and just because you might be able to clone a Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin they would be a resurrection of the original or we may find they were more complex persons to begin with.
Unless you can duplicate the precise electromagnetic energy emanating from the celestial bodies, identical cloning is impossible. For example, the distance Saturn is from the Earth in relationship to the Sun, Moon, all the planets, all the stars in the lunar constellations, etc. etc. will determine the individual’s body size (down to the nose), mental disposition, health, intelligence, etc. etc. Perhaps cloning could be attempted in the bowels of the Earth in an attempt to eliminate this celestial influence but what would be the product? A soulless pile of glop with no bone structure? George W. Bush? It would be such an un appealing container for physical incarnation of the soul it would only attract the plasma bodies of insects and small mammals like rabbits and squirrels who are keen on moving up in the reincarnation hierarchy and desperately want a human form. I don’t even think demons would desire the physical container of a clone but would probably take it anyway just so they can manifest physically for a short while and stretch their legs and swing a butcher knife.
I would entertain the possibility that there are souls who would be so attached to their previous physical incarnations that they would leap at the chance to rejoin with their old DNA. They would be in for quite a surprise though. The electromagnetic energy at the time of their previous birth that made them king or queen might only provide them with the chance and ability to be a box store greeter.
My suggestion to our elites, if they want to get our angry alien cousins off our backs, threaten to fire earth dust out of a cannon and into outer space. Let them fear the rampant infestation of homo sapiens into the galaxy, (much like Europe is experiencing today with immigrants). And if our elites are really concerned with the survival of the human race, why not inject human DNA into mushroom spores and allow our species’ DNA to spread that way? Mushroom spores can survive space travel. If I were Kim Jong-un, I would be building a secret army using this dust, perhaps a powerful neanderthal army or an army of resurrected Mongols armed with shoulder launched missiles, and have them pour out of the underground bases when the fighting ensues. Perhaps the off-planet nazis are building an army of soldiers using Martian dust and will return to Earth under the swastika banner to reconquer the planet.
Vomito, great idea to inject DNA into the mushroom spores – creating spiritual rebirth with magical mushroom enlightenment.
Surely Dr. Farrell you don’t believe Napoleon Bonaparte belongs in that list of psychopaths?
I think when Trump attacked Syria based on the false flag, thereby declaring himself Swamp King, the disgust many Americans had was probably very similar to the disgust Beethoven had when Napoleon declared himself emperor.
I’m with you on this, Vominto Blanco. As Shakespeare wrote:
There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
This would mean that MtDNA doesnt decay.. right?
So if we take this machine/technique to the Pyramids we should find MtDNA corresponding to the Builder’s…shouldn’t we? It says right there.. we don’t need bones anymore.. Where is the Ziggurat of Ur.. Who wants to find Enlil’s MtDNA and find out once and for all if he really was the rightful heir?
Dr Farrel.. If we follow your ‘wild’ speculations, (which I usually take as gospel truth these days.. or it’ll at least be gospel truth in a month or so….) these techniques.. taking DNA.. injecting it into other things (Pig-Human Embryo), cloning, artificial wombs.. Are these not God-like powers? Are these not the powers used by Enki as described in the Harp’s Man Begin’s?
“[Without] the sperm
of a ma[le]
she gave [birth]
to offspri[ng.,]
to the [em]bryo
of mankind. (Harps 157)”
They talk about Birth Goddesses.. but once the actual process got refined and perfected.. They needed a lot of slaves.. Even Immortal Gods can get impatient..
The cloning element to this.. Could the conservation of DNA be a reason that the mummification process was put into place..
That way.. you can turn up every 200-250 years.. Reclone a ‘God’ and send him in to shock and awe the monkeys, Fire from Above.. Sacrifice your children.. turn on the Pyramid.. God is Immortel..
(just remember to make sure the monkeys dont learn how to write.. Oral histories keep the population in check better..)
Why not make our way out past the twig of high octane speculation all the way to the end of the last leaf; I can just imagine in some deep black lab somewhere, they may be attempting to “resurrect” one of those individuals with the elongated skulls; or one of the Pharaohs from ancient Egypt; or, heaven forbid, one of the ancient “gods”. Where might one find the necessary material to do such a thing? Possibly in the deep freezer known as the Antarctic. Well preserved human remains have been found in Siberia and are a matter of public record. What may have been discovered in the Antarctic has, so far, remained hidden from the public’s eye.
It’s pretty obvious that “science” has tossed what little morality it had aside in its efforts to remake the world in it’s image, driven by the funding of “elites” with no sense of morality at all, if current “news” is anything to go by.
Way past farfetched, I know, but…….
How long before they go way-out[in] beyond the leaf,
and turn another page?
WD, your comment reminded me of when I was visiting Rosslyn Chapel in Roslin, Scotland, before “The Da Vinci Code” came out. There was a very palpable sense of secrets being hidden there. This was also during the time of cloning Dolly the Sheep. On a whim, I physically walked from the door of Rosslyn Chapel, through the sleepy town of Roslin, and to the entrance road of the genetic facilitythat cloned Dolly. Now, WHY would a world-class genetic facility be located in that particular place?
Sangreal or Sang Real? I suspect someone Very Familiar may have been (or is about to be) reconstructed from the DNA up. Kind of gives a different slant to the Second Coming, doesn’t it?
Interesting, to say the least. Now just how do you think He might respond to that? Wouldn’t want to be the one to find out, it might not be pretty.
Perhaps a falsehood is in the making. I wonder if the anti-Christ is going to be a reconstructed human pretending to be Christ:
Synaxarion:
“… He will be born, as Saint Hippolytos of Rome says, from a harlot, who will appear to be a virgin, but will be of the Hebrew race, of the tribe of Dan, the son of Jacob; and he will supposedly live as Christ did, and will perform as many miracles as Christ, and will raise the dead. But all of these things—his birth, his flesh, and everything else—will be an illusion, as the Apostle says; and he will then be revealed as the son of perdition, with all power, with signs and deceitful wonders. However, as Saint John of Damascus says, the Devil himself will not be transformed into flesh, but a man who is the offspring of fornication will receive all the energy of Satan, and will suddenly rise up. He will appear good and gentle to all, and then there will be a mighty famine. He will supposedly satisfy the people, will study the Holy Scriptures, will practice fasting, and, compelled by men, will be proclaimed king; he will show especial love to the Hebrew race, restoring them to Jerusalem and rebuilding their temple. Before seven years have passed, as Daniel says, Enoch and Elias will come, preaching to the people that they should not accept him. He will arrest and torment them, and will then behead them. Those who choose to remain pious will flee far away into the mountains; when he finds them, through the agency of demons, he will make trial of them. Those seven years will be cut short for the sake of the elect, and there will be a mighty famine, and all the elements will be transformed, so that everyone will all but disappear….” http://thesaker.is/the-second-coming-the-antichrist-and-the-last-judgment/
If this tech has already percolated down to such lower strata of the pyramid as academic researchers, well then Adolf Junior — or even a whole crop of little Adolfs — must already be in his/their mid 30s. And just think of all the David Rockefellers running around — yikes! This could end like locusts, a recurring, generational biblical plague. Weaponized DNA.
Loved it!