THE (OUT)HOUSE OF SAUD: THE COUP, THE OIL, AND THE MONEY

Among the many articles I received this past week about the coup (and chaos) in Saudi Arabia, this one shared by Mr. V.T. is perhaps the one that gets down to the deep fissures that are beginning to show within the desert kingdom.  Certainly the Saudis are not stupid: investments have allowed them to penetrate significant portions of the media, of technology and space, and so on, but the bottom line for the kingdom is oil, money, and a form of Islam that has remained extreme, though in the latter instance, we're seeing some (slow) signals of royally-approved change.

Here's the article:

How Broke is the House of Saud?

The graphs, and increasing population, say it all:

One thing seems obvious: the House of Saud needs money. The cash flowing out to the princes is simply not available anymore. The oil price is a major factor in that. Miraculously, the weekend crackdown on dozens of princes et al, managed to do what all the OPEC meetings could not for the price of oil: push it up. But the shrinkage of foreign reserves shows a long term problem, not some momentary blip:

 

 

Another sign that money has become a real problem in Riyadh is the ever-postponed IPO of Saudi Aramco, the flagship oil company supposedly worth $2 trillion. Trump this week called on the Saudi’s to list it in New York, but despite the upsurge in oil prices you still have to wonder which part of that $2 trillion is real, and which is just fantasy.

But yeah, I know, there’s a million different stocks you can ask the same question about. Then again, seeing the wealth of some of the kingdom’s richest parties confiscated overnight can’t be a buy buy buy signal, can it? Looks like the IPO delay tells us something.

Hiding in between the lines here is the implication that a coup - with all the attendant exacerbation of tribal rivalries within the royal house - is tailor-made to drive up oil prices. Good news for the kingdom, but only in the short term. It doesn't, and won't, solve the long-term problems, and it's those long term problems that I suspect are forcing the "modernization" impulses. The reason? simply put, the money is drying up, and there's nothing to do:

And then you have the 15,000 princes and princesses who all live off of the Kingdom’s supposed riches (‘only 2,000’ profit directly). All of them live in -relative- wealth. Some more than others, but there’s no hunger in the royal family. Thing is, overall population growth outdoes even that in the royal family. Which means, since the country produces nothing except for oil, that there are 1000s upon 1000s of young people with nothing to do but spend money that’s no longer there. Cue mayhem.

In last Thursday's News and Views from the Nefarium, I pointed out that one member of the Bin Laden family, and a stakeholder in the massive Bin Laden Group - long an ally of the royal house - was part of the round-up of those arrested for "corruption." But that is just the tip of the iceberg of how extensive the arrests have really been:

The Saudi government is aiming to confiscate cash and other assets worth as much as $800 billion in its broadening crackdown on alleged corruption among the kingdom’s elite, according to people familiar with the matter. Several prominent businessmen are among those who have been arrested in the days since Saudi authorities launched the crackdown on Saturday, by detaining more than 60 princes, officials and other prominent Saudis, according to those people and others. The country’s central bank, the Saudi Arabian Monetary Authority, said late Tuesday that it has frozen the bank accounts of “persons of interest” and said the move is “in response to the Attorney General’s request pending the legal cases against them.”

Attorney General?!?!? Needless to say, this caught my eye, and it suggested to me what I suggested in my News and Views last Thursday, that whatever is happening in the kingdom, it is not unconnected to goings on elsewhere, particularly in the USA. The article seems to confirm this view that, behind the scenes, one might have to look to Washington and its own internecine "factional infighting" to find further connections:

Going through all these numbers, you can imagine why the ruling family, or rather the rulers within that family, are getting nervous. And that’s where we get to an interesting piece by Ryan Grim at the Intercept, who says it’s not even 32-year-old crown prince Mohammed bin Salman, known as MBS, or King Salman, 81, who control the kingdom these days, it’s the United Arab Emirates (UAE) -and maybe Washington-. (Emphasis added)

The connections not only run all the way to potential implications in the Las Vegas shooting, as I averred in the News and Views last Thursday, but also to the Trump administration and Israel, which, according to the article, may be loosely tied to Prince Mohammed bin Salman's drive for "reforms":

The platitudes about reform were also challenged by recent mass arrests of religious figures and repression of anything that has remotely approached less than full support of MBS. The latest purge comes just days after White House adviser Jared Kushner, a close ally of Otaiba, visited Riyadh, and just hours after a bizarre-even-for-Trump tweet. Whatever legitimate debate there was about MBS ended Saturday — his drive to consolidate power is now too obvious to ignore. And that puts denizens of Washington’s think tank world in a difficult spot, as they have come to rely heavily on the Saudi and UAE end of the bargain.

As The Intercept reported earlier, one think tank alone, the Middle East Institute, got a massive $20 million commitment from the UAE. And make no mistake, MBS is a project of the UAE — an odd turn of events given the relative sizes of the two countries. “Our relationship with them is based on strategic depth, shared interests, and most importantly the hope that we could influence them. Not the other way around,” Otaiba has said privately.

Now add to this explosive mixture the internal rivalries within the (out)House of Saud itself, and its disastrous foreign policies in the past few years:

Power was shared between three main clans: King Salman (and his beloved son Prince Mohammed); the son of Prince Nayef (the other Prince Mohammed), and finally the son of the dead king (Prince Miteb, commander of the National Guard). In practice, Salman let MBS run the show. And, in practice, blunders also followed. The House of Saud lost its lethal regime-change drive in Syria and is bogged down in an unwinnable war on Yemen, which on top of it prevents MBS from exploiting the Empty Quarter – the desert straddling both nations. The Saudi Treasury was forced to borrow on the international markets. Austerity ruled …

[..] aversion to MBS never ceased to grow; “There are three major royal family groups aligning against the present rulers: the family of former King Abdullah, the family of former King Fahd, and the family of former Crown Prince Nayef.” Nayef – who replaced Bandar – is close to Washington and extremely popular in Langley due to his counter-terrorism activities. His arrest earlier this year angered the CIA and quite a few factions of the House of Saud – as it was interpreted as MBS forcing his hand in the power struggle. According to the source, “he might have gotten away with the arrest of CIA favorite Mohammed bin Nayef if he smoothed it over but MBS has now crossed the Rubicon though he is no Caesar. The CIA regards him as totally worthless.”

[..] The source, though, is adamant; “There will be regime change in the near future, and the only reason that it has not happened already is because the old King is liked among his family. It is possible that there may be a struggle emanating from the military as during the days of King Farouk, and we may have a ruler arise that is not friendly to the United States.”

And that, of course, would put a halt to Mohammed bin Salman's drives for reform, and push the Kingdom further into its well-known backwardness and barbarity.

So what's the high octane speculation? What I suspect may be going on is that the Saudi struggles are part of a much larger picture: it's an example of that factional infighting that I suspect is going on elsewhere as well, in Europe, with the battles between the Merkel-Juncker Axis on the one hand, and the rising discontent among various European nations themselves. (We'll get back to that in a future blog, for Germany is getting "nervous".) That infighting is certainly taking place within the USA as well, as anyone familiar with the news and constant battling between the Trump administration and his opponents from the last election cycle. If this "high octane speculation" be true, then it means one will, over time, be able to connect some very interesting dots between events, which, as I implied in last Thursday's News and Views, we've already seen with the case of Prince al-Waleed bin Talal's connection to Las Vegas, the Mandalay Bay Hotel, and potentially, the shooting itself, for al-Waleed was one of those arrested for "corruption." That's a threadbare connection, to be sure, but it is also interesting to note that among those purged in the coup, some have connections to both the Bush and the Clinton families, and that again argues for my speculation that this is not simply a "domestic crisis" in Saudi Arabia. It's a part of something much larger.

Time, of course, will tell...

See you on the flip side...

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".

43 Comments

  1. BetelgeuseT-1 on November 16, 2017 at 8:33 pm

    “MSM wh-o-res”



    • BetelgeuseT-1 on November 16, 2017 at 8:34 pm

      Yep, that was it.
      Should have known…



      • BetelgeuseT-1 on November 16, 2017 at 8:35 pm

        Here’s the original post.

        Zerohedge is now running the ridiculous story that the whole thing was just about fattening the the Saudi government’s coffers after bleeding so much money. Including using the Financial Times as a source! Hah!
        Even if true, the money is just the side-story, the Limited Hangout.
        If it really was about the money, there would have been far easier ways to do so.
        How would it explain the “resignation” & detention of the Lebanese prime minister Hariri?

        No, this is all about setting the stage for war with Iran/Hezbollah/Lebanon by the US/NATO/Zionist evil empire. Syria has been put on the back-burner for now.
        “The Road to Tehran is via Damascus” has now become “The Road to Tehran is via Beirut”. Or substi-tute Hezbollah for Beirut.

        Have a listen to an interview with Brandon Turbeville that is on his website, scroll down the main page and you”l find it (interview starts at about 1hr20mins in). Brandon went to Syria in October to see and hear for himself the situation on the ground.
        What he says is exactly what I experienced in Lebanon in 2015. Both beautiful countries steeped in (ancient) history and with the nicest people you could meet.
        Including experiencing directly how Christians & Muslims live side by side. I even took a video of church bells ringing in the ancient city of Byblos, just north of Beirut. You could have been in any European city.
        Women (especially in Beirut) walk around just like any Western woman, no covering up required, it’s their choice whether they want to or not, so you see both.
        Beirut – and Lebanon in general – was actually far more Westernized than expected, especially after having come straight from Cairo.
        Lebanon is amazing, I have no doubt Syria & Iran are the same.

        I’m saying all this because here come the US/NATO/Zionist thugs to destroy it all based on nothing but lies and war propaganda, which no doubt will start in earnest over the next days/weeks/months via the MSM wh-o-res.

        Time to get angry people!
        If you had been to one of those countries and experienced it for yourself how nice and peaceful they are, then you would be too.
        Thousands of innocent men, women & children are about to be slaughtered like animals.



        • goshawks on November 17, 2017 at 12:08 am

          BetelgeuseT-1, what has gotten the Israelis scared (and therefore allying with Saudi Arabia to go after Hezbollah in Lebanon) is the fact that – indirectly – Israel has been training and war-hardening thousands of Hezbollah soldiers. Over the years, the fools and the hero-wannabes have been killed off in Syria, and what remains is a core of wily, skilled veterans.

          When the all-CIA-Duh troops have finally been killed or pushed-out of Syria, Lebanon will have an experienced combat force return home. In the past, Israel has been used-to conducting sweeps into Lebanon against ‘weekend warriors’. This time, the IDF will be up against folks more determined and battle-hardened than they are. Ah, the wonders of karma…



          • BetelgeuseT-1 on November 17, 2017 at 1:07 am

            Goshawks,
            Interesting point, but only partially agree with it.
            The collusion between Israel and SA goes back much further, I dare say even back to the founding of the Israeli state.
            It has only recently been publicly admitted to (see Wikipedia), which usually means that it had already been going on for a long time.

            What is the purpose if SA?
            To provide the petro dollar so the Israeli Zionists can fight their war of aggression/expansion according to the Oded Yinon plan, as you indicated before..
            The money goes to their proxy US/NATO/CIA who then provides weapons and other military aid (or terrorists) in return, back to Israel and now increasingly back directly to SA (to be used for the same purpose!).
            Hezbollah is used as the excuse to get to Iran, Lebanon is just a side-step.
            In all, a cunning, but repulsive, sickening plan.



  2. BetelgeuseT-1 on November 16, 2017 at 8:18 pm

    And it still didn’t work…
    Let’s try this.

    Zerohedge is now running the ridiculous story that the whole thing was just about fattening the the Saudi government’s coffers after bleeding so much money. Including using the Financial Times as a source! Hah!
    Even if true, the money is just the side-story, the Limited Hangout.
    If it really was about the money, there would have been far easier ways to do so.
    How would it explain the “resignation” & detention of the Lebanese prime minister Hariri?

    No, this is all about setting the stage for war with Iran/Hezbollah/Lebanon by the US/NATO/Zionist evil empire. Syria has been put on the back-burner for now.
    “The Road to Tehran is via Damascus” has now become “The Road to Tehran is via Beirut”. Or substi-tute Hezbollah for Beirut.

    Have a listen to an interview with Brandon Turbeville that is on his website, scroll down the main page and you”l find it (interview starts at about 1hr20mins in). Brandon went to Syria in October to see and hear for himself the situation on the ground.
    What he says is exactly what I experienced in Lebanon in 2015. Both beautiful countries steeped in (ancient) history and with the nicest people you could meet.
    Including experiencing directly how Christians & Muslims live side by side. I even took a video of church bells ringing in the ancient city of Byblos, just north of Beirut. You could have been in any European city.
    Women (especially in Beirut) walk around just like any Western woman, no covering up required, it’s their choice whether they want to or not, so you see both.
    Beirut – and Lebanon in general – was actually far more Westernized than expected, especially after having come straight from Cairo.
    Lebanon is amazing, I have no doubt Syria & Iran are the same.

    I’m saying all this because here come the US/NATO/Zionist thugs to destroy it all based on nothing but lies and war propaganda, which no doubt will start in earnest over the next days/weeks/months via the MSM whores.

    Time to get angry people!
    If you had been to one of those countries and experienced it for yourself how nice and peaceful they are, then you would be too.
    Thousands of innocent men, women & children are about to be slaughtered like animals.



  3. BetelgeuseT-1 on November 16, 2017 at 8:07 pm

    And the mod-bot has struck.
    Thanks Goshawks, here’s the culprit: “substi tute”.
    So here goes again…

    Zerohedge is now running the ridiculous story that the whole thing was just about fattening the the Saudi government’s coffers after bleeding so much money. Including using the Financial Times as a source! Hah!
    Even if true, the money is just the side-story, the Limited Hangout.
    If it really was about the money, there would have been far easier ways to do so.
    How would it explain the “resignation” & detention of the Lebanese prime minister Hariri?

    No, this is all about setting the stage for war with Iran/Hezbollah/Lebanon by the US/NATO/Zionist evil empire. Syria has been put on the back-burner for now.
    “The Road to Tehran is via Damascus” has now become “The Road to Tehran is via Beirut”. Or substi tute Hezbollah for Beirut.

    Have a listen to an interview with Brandon Turbeville that is on his website, scroll down the main page and you”l find it (interview starts at about 1hr20mins in). Brandon went to Syria in October to see and hear for himself the situation on the ground.
    What he says is exactly what I experienced in Lebanon in 2015. Both beautiful countries steeped in (ancient) history and with the nicest people you could meet.
    Including experiencing directly how Christians & Muslims live side by side. I even took a video of church bells ringing in the ancient city of Byblos, just north of Beirut. You could have been in any European city.
    Women (especially in Beirut) walk around just like any Western woman, no covering up required, it’s their choice whether they want to or not, so you see both.
    Beirut – and Lebanon in general – was actually far more Westernized than expected, especially after having come straight from Cairo.
    Lebanon is amazing, I have no doubt Syria & Iran are the same.

    I’m saying all this because here come the US/NATO/Zionist thugs to destroy it all based on nothing but lies and war propaganda, which no doubt will start in earnest over the next days/weeks/months via the MSM whores.

    Time to get angry people!
    If you had been to one of those countries and experienced it for yourself how nice and peaceful they are, then you would be too.
    Thousands of innocent men, women & children are about to be slaughtered like animals.



  4. BetelgeuseT-1 on November 16, 2017 at 8:03 pm

    Zerohedge is now running the ridiculous story that the whole thing was just about fattening the the Saudi government’s coffers after bleeding so much money. Including using the Financial Times as a source! Hah!
    Even if true, the money is just the side-story, the Limited Hangout.
    If it really was about the money, there would have been far easier ways to do so.
    How would it explain the “resignation” & detention of the Lebanese prime minister Hariri?

    No, this is all about setting the stage for war with Iran/Hezbollah/Lebanon by the US/NATO/Zionist evil empire. Syria has been put on the back-burner for now.
    “The Road to Tehran is via Damascus” has now become “The Road to Tehran is via Beirut”. Or substitute Hezbollah for Beirut.

    Have a listen to an interview with Brandon Turbeville that is on his website, scroll down the main page and you”l find it (interview starts at about 1hr20mins in). Brandon went to Syria in October to see and hear for himself the situation on the ground.
    What he says is exactly what I experienced in Lebanon in 2015. Both beautiful countries steeped in (ancient) history and with the nicest people you could meet.
    Including experiencing directly how Christians & Muslims live side by side. I even took a video of church bells ringing in the ancient city of Byblos, just north of Beirut. You could have been in any European city.
    Women (especially in Beirut) walk around just like any Western woman, no covering up required, it’s their choice whether they want to or not, so you see both.
    Beirut – and Lebanon in general – was actually far more Westernized than expected, especially after having come straight from Cairo.
    Lebanon is amazing, I have no doubt Syria & Iran are the same.

    I’m saying all this because here come the US/NATO/Zionist thugs to destroy it all based on nothing but lies and war propaganda, which no doubt will start in earnest over the next days/weeks/months via the MSM whores.

    Time to get angry people!
    If you had been to one of those countries and experienced it for yourself how nice and peaceful they are, then you would be too.
    Thousands of innocent men, women & children are about to be slaughtered like animals.



  5. goshawks on November 15, 2017 at 3:39 am

    Further info on the upcoming War:
    http://thesaker.is/israel-saudi-arabia-setting-preconditions-for-war-with-hezbollah/

    “Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah accused Saudi Arabia of encouraging Israel to attack Hezbollah in Lebanon, and Secretary of Iran’s Expediency Council, Mohsen Rezaei, said that the US, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Israel are planning a war against Lebanon.”

    Backwards on the first ‘encouragement’, but likely correct in the second ‘grouping’.

    Now is the time to look over our shoulders to see what the PTB want to pull-off while the world is intently watching this War…



  6. zendogbreath on November 14, 2017 at 1:19 am

    goshhawks. ya got me thinking again how this cycles. how long does the wurlitzer and rendon group need to make iran a friend of the ussa that helps them fight the newest isis/al-cia-duh centerpiece in the m.e.? weren’t they for us before they were against us? what would it take to spin ussa pr around to make the plain folk believe the problem is in saudi a and that the ayatoldya’s are the best friends ussa has? didn’t take long to make saddam our enemy and then our friend and then our enemy again, right?



    • zendogbreath on November 14, 2017 at 1:20 am

      and then throughout the real sleight of hand goes to which currency is defaulted to for trading oil



    • goshawks on November 14, 2017 at 4:48 am

      ZDB, I got to my current line of thinking about Middle East ‘events’ by time-capsule thinking:

      Back in 1973, Israel really had a do-or-die moment. A coalition of Arab states, mainly Egypt & Syria – but including small forces from Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco, and even Cuba – managed to seriously threaten Israel before being beaten-back. It was a close thing, and long-range plans were made.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War

      Fast forward through the decades. First, Egypt was coopted. Then Jordan. Iraq was weakened via the Iran-Iraq war, then conquered by Israel’s vassal state, the US. Libya was conquered by Israel’s vassal coalition, the EU. (Wherever you see Israel, substi tute-in Rothschild, et al.) Meanwhile, the Soros-backed ‘Arab Spring’ politically-neutered Tunisia, Algeria, and Morocco. Somewhere along the way, the House of Saud got in bed with the Israelis. Oh, and Syria has been decimated by paid-mercenary armies (all-CIA-Duh…).

      If you look at the Middle East from this bird’s-eye-view, every one of these ‘changes’ was in Israel’s favor. They could be random, with odds of one in a quadrillion. Or, they could be sustained ‘covert operations’ by semi-hidden Players. My guess is the latter.

      Given this situation of the Semitic nations being picked-off one-by-one, what would be a reasonable ‘forecast’ for the near future? Syria is ‘gone’ for the foreseeable future; no threat to Israel. The only sizable Arab military force left is in Saudi Arabia (and its mini-allies). So, I would guess they are next to go.

      The most probable scenario is getting SA into a serious shooting war with Iran, initiated by going-after Hezbollah in Lebanon. Iran must respond, with Hezbollah being blood-allies after the conflict in Syria. Cue MBS. So, Iran and SA will take each other out, militarily and economically, with Israel grinning on the sidelines.

      Fast forward to 2020. The Arab (and Persian) countries are exhausted, decimated, and militarily neutralized. Israel is untouched. The long-range Oded Yinon plan is about completed. Masterful work, if demonic…

      (The US population may follow wherever the owned-MSM dictates. Or, a sufficient number of ‘zombies’ may have awakened. We will see…)



      • BetelgeuseT-1 on November 17, 2017 at 12:03 am

        Goshawks, you absolutely nailed it with this one, 100% agreed.
        This is “The Big Picture of Reality” when it comes to world affairs.
        All you have to do is connect the dots to come to this conclusion.
        Like “Who did 9/11”? No need to look at the details of the actual event itself.
        All you have to do is look at what has happened since then for the last 16 years.
        You can do the same for any war that has been fought for the past 200 years or so. Or go back further, much further…
        Look at all this and The Big Picture of Reality appears before your eyes.
        Its a raising of consciousness in a way, you see things for what they are.

        On SA.
        It’s just Zionist Israel’s lap poodle and money pot.
        They will kill it off when they no longer have a need for it.
        Demonization isn’t even necessary with that barbaric, oppressive dictatorship.
        Just get the MSM wh-o-res to tell the truth! Just for once.
        Regime change will follow, via their proxies of course, we know who they are.



  7. BetelgeuseT-1 on November 13, 2017 at 8:20 pm

    Have a listen to this great interview with a journalist based in Beirut.
    (Remove the spaces)
    “www. corbettreport. com/ interview-1320-marwa-osman-reports-on-the-saudi-purge/”
    This is such a great interview that clearly hints who is behind this “purge”.
    Some things she says resonate so well with me personally since I was in Lebanon a couple of years ago. When she says how Muslims & Christians live in piece and harmony, side-by-side, this is exactly what I experienced. You hear prayer towers from one side, and then church bells from another.
    And the blood-thirsty Zionist parasites have every intention of destroying it!



    • BetelgeuseT-1 on November 13, 2017 at 8:36 pm

      *peace and harmony”, not piece.



      • BetelgeuseT-1 on November 14, 2017 at 12:01 am

        One more comment.
        Who was it that brought back this peace&harmony to Lebanon when it was being torn apart by foreign invaders (read: The Zionists) in the 1990’s?
        Yes, Syria/Hezbollah.
        Let that sink in for a moment.

        Hezbollah is a people’s army that does nothing more than defend its sovereign territory, its heritage, its way of live, its independence, all those things.
        I was offered Hezbollah T-shirts while in the Baalbek area, but did not buy one.
        Something I regret to this day.



        • zendogbreath on November 14, 2017 at 1:25 am

          bt. piece is not a mistake.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJEhiF2cXRQ

          it’s the same as it ever was in iran, ireland,….

          funny how the names of all these places translates to the same thing.



  8. TRM on November 12, 2017 at 8:23 pm

    And of course the $64,000 (well billion) dollar question is …

    Would the new leaders allow sales for non-USA dollars? As long as MBS won’t the USA will tolerate him. But if he loses power, especially in a civil war, does the new leader strike a deal with China?

    It is all about the reserve currency war.



  9. goshawks on November 11, 2017 at 11:18 pm

    JPF: “…this is not simply a “domestic crisis” in Saudi Arabia. It’s a part of something much larger.”

    Yep. Saudi Arabia is being set-up for a fall, in one of two ways:

    Remember all the talk in the US gov’t about how the Sauds might be the ones behind 9/11? (Boy, my sides still ache after that one. I haven’t laughed that hard in a long time.) Well, although a certain tiny, rogue, Middle East country really was behind it (actually, it was the string-pulling spiders behind that country’s curtain who caused it), the Sauds are being prepared to be thrown under the bus to save said tiny, rogue, Middle East country. All the propaganda is in place. The actual timing will depend on the ‘pressure’ (outrage) heading-for that tiny, rogue, Middle East country as 9/11 Truth sinks-in with the American public…

    In the other way to fall, try an expensive, bloody war with a peer power. The upcoming Saudi Arabia vs Iran War (starting out in Lebanon) is also being prepared. MBS will need dictatorial power to force this upon the House of Saud. Hence, the kissy-kissy trip by dual-citizen Kushner.

    Ironically, the War will be used as a distraction from the 9/11 ‘heat’ issue. So, the only way the Sauds can keep from being thrown under the bus as a 9/11 scapegoat is to be pushed into a peer-to-peer war, which will ruin them anyway. Talk about being between a rock and a hard place…



    • zendogbreath on November 12, 2017 at 12:56 am

      Imagine the pressure felt now that the devil is coming 4 the soul of saud after all those yrs of their deal with the devil.

      Another dialectic to consider: is oil abiotic or is ghawar done? Either way saudi oil profits r done.



      • zendogbreath on November 12, 2017 at 1:12 am

        And why wouldn’t the wurlitzer make saud take the blame for 911 AND fight a war wirh iran?



        • goshawks on November 12, 2017 at 1:41 am

          If the American people ever SERIOUSLY thought that the Sauds did it, the Saudi Arabian military and infrastructure would be no more. The Sauds could not fight a war with Iran on camels…



    • BetelgeuseT-1 on November 12, 2017 at 9:39 pm

      You’re spot-on Goshawks.
      The whole thing is a Zionist (here comes this sites’ mod-bot!) plot for war/take-down of Iran & Hezbollah. And why not destroy/take Lebanon in the process, something the Zionist war-criminals have been after for a long time.

      This is all there is to it, no high-octane speculation of any kind required.

      They have simply (temporarily at least) re-focused their cross-hairs from Syria to Iran. Syria has proven too bothersome for the moment.
      Saudi-Arabia is being used to get things started, (war)propaganda will do the rest.
      Like that Bahrain pipe-line that exploded, which is being blamed on Iran without a shred of evidence.
      A familiar picture?

      As you say, no different from the 9/11 plot.
      “By deception you shall wage war”, isn’t that the Mossad’s motto?
      If calling the Saudi regime the (Out)House, then what to call that murderous, despicable regime in Tel Aviv? The (Out)House that has actually been in cahoots with them for a long time (look it up)?
      Zionist, Mossad, good grief, this post will never make it past the bot.



      • BetelgeuseT-1 on November 12, 2017 at 9:57 pm

        “Like that Bahrain pipe-line that exploded, which is being blamed on Iran without a shred of evidence”.
        One year ago they would have blamed it on Yemen.
        Three years ago they would have blamed it on Syria.
        Five years ago they would have blamed it on Libya.
        Six years ago they would have blamed it on Egypt and/or Tunisia
        Fifteen years ago they would have blamed it on Irak.
        Twenty(five) years ago they would have blamed it on Afghanistan.
        Eighty years ago they would have blamed it on Germany.
        Onehundredfifty (or thereabouts) years ago they would have blamed it on Spain.
        Etc, etc, etc.

        War Propaganda.
        Cui Bono?



        • BetelgeuseT-1 on November 12, 2017 at 10:16 pm

          Well, surprise, both posts made it passed the bot.
          Did the bot suffer an untimely death at the hands of a free-speech cyber attack?
          Things are looking up!



          • goshawks on November 13, 2017 at 2:07 am

            BetelgeuseT-1, thanks. On modding: A bit back, I discovered that words containing ‘ti t’ within them were automatically modded. (Not ‘ass’, strangely enough.) Your two postings – randomly – did not have the offending three letters. (It appears that urls of certain websites are modded, so they need to be ‘altered’…)



          • zendogbreath on November 14, 2017 at 1:13 am

            and v = iagra too



  10. Pierre on November 11, 2017 at 10:09 pm

    It was announced last month that the Sauds were going to let women drive. though I reckon that is for more ‘accidents’ like this
    https://www.newidea.com.au/father-of-boy-killed-in-banksia-school-car-crash-forgives-driver

    so they can force us onto auto driving cars like this.
    http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/09/technology/self-driving-bus-accident-las-vegas/index.html



  11. Robert Barricklow on November 11, 2017 at 12:58 pm

    The Heavy Duty players are the Military & the CIA. Within those organizations are factions in alliance and opposition. There is that within deeper ties-ins with the Breakaway Civilization. The Nazi International have agents within these & other organizations worldwide. There’s definitely a shuffle going on within these decks of primary shot callers.
    Information is their currency; but like all information, what’s counterfeit and what’s real?
    The dots are giving us a clearer picture as the connect here & there. But as these events unfold, we’re seeing some unbelievable connections.
    But our bottom line is where does that leave the commoners[99.9999%] who allegedly support this betrayal of trust? For, it seems we have our skin in the game w/o any say; except as commodities, cannon fodder, and our blood, sweat & tears being spent in a fantasy of the PTB’s making.
    A façade that’s being pulled-off the global stage.
    Heads they win; tails we loose.
    What’s the odds, of the people coming out on top in that PTB coin toss?



    • Robert Barricklow on November 11, 2017 at 1:07 pm

      Is AI playing the puppet master here? what if, in the Cosmic War they planted their seeds within our DNA, and the epigenetic events are being orchestrated by our unconscious communication within the platform generated & programmed by those about to be exterminated in that Cosmic WAR?
      Deja Vu programmed long, long,long ago?
      The fault is in our stars[dust].
      At least how it was re-scripted after the fall of the/our[the scripted portion] GODS?



      • Robert Barricklow on November 11, 2017 at 1:11 pm

        The battle is between living spirits
        and the AI ent ity[s]?



        • Robert Barricklow on November 11, 2017 at 1:14 pm

          Even now the AI community is developing living supply chains that are anything but living.
          The real living supply chain communicate. But that ability was scripted out by our benefactors who had programmed us a tool to regenerate their existence back into being.
          We still have latent abilities, despite their efforts.



          • Robert Barricklow on November 11, 2017 at 1:23 pm

            See my review of the book:
            The LIVING Supply Chain: The Evolving Imperative of Operating In Real Time
            by Robert Hanfield/Tom Linton
            http://amazon.com/



    • Pierre on November 11, 2017 at 10:01 pm

      same as the chance that there is a God, and he wouldnt like to be like them.



      • Sandygirl on November 12, 2017 at 11:22 am

        Great reply RB, I’m surprised you rated it 3 stars. The book advocates the same business model as always, expand globally, grow wealth. The ominous clouds are building higher, further and faster.



        • Robert Barricklow on November 12, 2017 at 12:24 pm

          I loath rating these “free” books;
          but that’s the way it is.
          I sometimes wonder…
          if these authors believe…
          their own press.?



  12. Diane Shear on November 11, 2017 at 12:49 pm

    (OUT) HOUSE OF SAUD…..
    Love it!



  13. anakephalaiosis on November 11, 2017 at 11:32 am

    Artificial intelligence is basically about lossless compression, bandwidth and parallel computing. All in and all out. A high resolution picture is clear, and less blurred.

    The political significance and spin-off is, that patterns of recognition resurrect hidden facts from the memory hole. Increased highlight leads to sharp contrast.

    Doomsday is the word. In myth, dwarfs turn into stone at break of day, as gray zones dwindle. Is not truth always a bombshell in a web of lies?



  14. Ramura on November 11, 2017 at 9:26 am

    Re this comment: “The latest purge comes just days after White House adviser Jared Kushner, a close ally of Otaiba, visited Riyadh, and just hours after a bizarre-even-for-Trump tweet. ” Earlier this week, the Virginia mansion that is also the Ambassador from UAE (Otaiba) was burned to the ground. Otaiba is said to be “Washington’s most influential Ambassador”…and, yes, with strong ties to Kushner.

    Curious timing, don’t you think? It happened just a few days after the “purge.”

    (Source: http://wjla.com/news/local/virginia-mansion-destroyed-by-massive-fire-owned-by-embassy-of-the-united-arab-emirates )



    • zendogbreath on November 12, 2017 at 1:00 am

      What the heck does that mean?



  15. WalkingDead on November 11, 2017 at 7:48 am

    The globalists end game approaches and the establishment of the global pecking order is underway for the top spot on the pyramid. This is the infighting we see globally as those vying for that position begin to consume/eliminate their rivals, perceived or otherwise. At the moment, this is occurring at the “local” level. Once the “local” level has been “sustainably developed”, it will go regional, then global at an increasing pace. Can it be accomplished without exceeding the tipping point and starting a global revolution is the question.
    This has been a long, slow, carefully calculated and executed process over the last two centuries. It is at a critical stage and one wrong move could bring it all down on top of them; hence the need for the police state and the push for the disarmament of Amerika; the last place where there is the illusion of freedom.



    • WalkingDead on November 11, 2017 at 8:10 am

      Within this grand, global scheme, Saudi Kings and Princes in their backward little sandbox are meaningless pawns to be sacrificed at the appropriate time. Despite all their money, they are at the bottom of the food chain along with the rest of us.



  16. basta on November 11, 2017 at 5:50 am

    Well if the CIA thinks you’re “worthless” you can’t be all that bad!

    The Saudis are in a somewhat similar situation to ancien regime France; a huge portion of the country — the aristos and the clergy — lived off an overtaxed peasantry and a disdained, overburdened bourgeoisie. Unproductive, privileged and decadent. We all know how that ended.

    These “reforms” are targeting the unsavory globalist faction, but then even a blind sheik could throw a rock and hit an unsavory globalist.



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